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In our memory...these brave men can live forever and not be forgotten.

 

Many today don’t have any idea who these Men were and that’s a pity.

 

George Gobel comedian, Army Air Corps, taught fighter pilots

 

Johnny Carson made a big deal about it once on the Tonight Show, to which George said "the Japs didn't get past us" !!!          

 

 

Sterling Hayden, US Marines and OSS. Smuggled guns into Yugoslavia and parachuted into Croatia.  Silver Star.
 
James Stewart, US Army Air Corps. Bomber pilot who rose to the rank of General.
 
Ernest Borgnine, US Navy. Gunners Mate 1c, destroyer USS Lamberton.  10 years active duty.  Discharged 1941, re-enlisted after Pearl Harbor
 
Ed McMahon, US Marines. Fighter Pilot. (Flew OE-1 Bird Dogs over Korea as well.)
 
Telly Savalas, US Army.
 
Walter Matthau, US Army Air Corps., B-24 Radioman/Gunner and cryptographer.
 
Steve Forrest, US Army. Wounded, Battle of the Bulge.
 
Jonathan Winters, USMC. Battleship USS Wisconsin and Carrier USS Bon Homme Richard. Anti-aircraft gunner, Battle of Okinawa.
 
Paul Newman, US Navy Rear seat gunner/radsioman, torpedo bombers of USS Bunker Hill.
 
Kirk Douglas, US Navy. Sub-chaser in the Pacific. Wounded in action and medically discharged.
 
Robert Mitchum, US Army.
 
Dale Robertson, US Army. Tank Commander in North Africa under Patton. Wounded twice. Battlefield Commission.
 
Henry Fonda, US Navy. Destroyer USS Satterlee.
 
John Carroll, US Army Air Corps. Pilot in North Africa. Broke his back in a crash.
 
Lee Marvin US Marines. Sniper. Wounded in action on Saipan. Buried in ArlingtonNational Cemetery, Sec. 7A next to Greg Boyington and Joe Louis.
 
Art Carney, US Army. Wounded on Normandy beach, D-Day. Limped for the rest of his life.
 
Wayne Morris, US Navy fighter pilot, USS Essex. Downed seven Japanese fighters.
 
Rod Steiger, US Navy. Was aboard one of the ships that launched the Doolittle Raid.
 
Tony Curtis, US Navy. Sub tender USS Proteus. In Tokyo Bay for the surrender ofJapan.
 
Larry Storch. US Navy. Sub tender USS Proteus with Tony Curtis.
 
Forrest Tucker, US Army. Enlisted as a private, rose to Lieutenant.
 
Robert Montgomery, US Navy.
 
George Kennedy, US Army. Enlisted after Pearl Harbor, stayed in sixteen years.
 
Mickey Rooney, US Army under Patton. Bronze Star.
 
Denver Pyle, US Navy. Wounded in the Battle of Guadalcanal. Medically discharged.
 
Burgess Meredith, US Army Air Corps.
 
DeForest Kelley, US Army Air Corps.
 
Robert Stack, US Navy. Gunnery Officer.
 
Neville Brand, US Army, Europe. Was awarded the Silver Star and Purple Heart.
 
Tyrone Power, US Marines. Transport pilot in the Pacific Theater.
 
Charlton Heston, US Army Air Corps. Radio operator and aerial gunner on a B-25,Aleutians.

 

Danny Aiello, US Army. Lied about his age to enlist at 16. Served three years.
 
James Arness, US Army. As an infantryman, he was severely wounded at Anzio,Italy.
 
Efram Zimbalist, Jr., US Army. Purple Heart for a severe wound received at HuertgenForest.
 
Mickey Spillane, US Army Air Corps, Fighter Pilot and later Instructor Pilot.
 
Rod Serling. US Army. 11th Airborne Division in the Pacific. He jumped at Tagaytay in the Philippines and was later wounded in Manila.
 
Gene Autry, US Army Air Corps. Crewman on transports that ferried supplies over "The Hump" in the China-

Burma-India Theater.
 
Wiliam Holden, US Army Air Corps.
 
Alan Hale Jr, US Coast Guard.
 
Harry Dean Stanton, US Navy. Battle of Okinawa.
 
Russell Johnson, US Army Air Corps. B-24 crewman who was awarded Purple Heart when his aircraft was shot down by the Japanese in the Philippines.
 
William Conrad, US Army Air Corps. Fighter Pilot.
 
Jack Klugman, US Army.
 
Frank Sutton, US Army. Took part in 14 assault landings, including Leyte, Luzon, Bataan and Corregidor.
 
Jackie Coogan, US Army Air Corps. Volunteered for gliders and flew troops and materials into Burma behind enemy lines.
 
Tom Bosley, US Navy.
 
Claude Akins, US Army. Signal Corps., Burma and the Philippines.
 
Chuck Connors, US Army. Tank-warfare instructor.
 
Harry Carey Jr., US Navy.
 
Mel Brooks, US Army. Combat Engineer. Saw action in the Battle of the Bulge.
 
Robert Altman, US Army Air Corps. B-24 Co-Pilot.
 
Pat Hingle, US Navy. Destroyer USS Marshall
 
Fred Gwynne, US Navy. Radioman.
 
Karl Malden, US Army Air Corps. 8th Air Force, NCO.
 
Earl Holliman. US Navy. Lied about his age to enlist. Discharged after a year when they Navy found out.
 
Rock Hudson, US Navy. Aircraft mechanic, the Philippines.
 
Harvey Korman, US Navy.
 
Aldo Ray. US Navy. UDT frogman, Okinawa.
 
Don Knotts, US Army, Pacific Theater.

 

Don Rickles, US Navy aboard USS Cyrene.
  
Harry Dean Stanton, US Navy. Served aboard an LST in the Battle of Okinawa.
 
Robert Stack, US Navy. Gunnery Instructor.
 
Soupy Sales, US Navy. Served on USS Randall in the South Pacific.
 
Lee Van Cleef, US Navy. Served aboard a sub chaser then a mine sweeper.
 
Clifton James, US Army, South Pacific. Was awarded the Silver Star, Bronze Star, and Purple Heart.
 
Ted Knight, US Army, Combat Engineers.
 
Jack Warden, US Navy, 1938-1942, then US Army, 1942-1945. 101st Airborne Division.
 
Don Adams. US Marines. Wounded on Guadalcanal, then served as a Drill Instructor.
 
James Gregory, US Navy and US Marines.
 
Brian Keith, US Marines. Radioman/Gunner in Dauntless dive-bombers.
 
Fess Parker, US Navy and US Marines. Booted from pilot training for being too tall, joined Marines as a radio operator.
 
Charles Durning. US Army. Landed at Normandy on D-Day. Shot multiple times. Awarded the Silver Star and Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts. Survived Malmedy Massacre.
 
Raymond Burr, US Navy. Shot in the stomach on Okinawa and medically discharged.
 
Hugh O'Brian, US Marines.
 
Robert Ryan, US Marines.
 
Eddie Albert, US Coast Guard. Bronze Star with Combat V for saving several Marines under heavy fire as pilot of a landing craft during the invasion of Tarawa.
 
Cark Gable, US Army Air Corps. B-17 gunner over Europe.
 
Charles Bronson, US Army Air Corps. B-29 gunner, wounded in action.
 
Peter Graves, US Army Air Corps.
 
Buddy Hackett, US Army anti-aircraft gunner.
 
Victor Mature, US Coast Guard.
 
Jack Palance, US Army Air Corps. Severely injured bailing out of a burning B-24 bomber.
 
Robert Preston, US Army Air Corps. Intelligence Officer
 
Cesar Romero, US Coast Guard. Coast Guard. Participated in the invasions of Tinian and Saipan on the assault transport USS Cavalier.
 
Norman Fell, US Army Air Corps., Tail Gunner, Pacific Theater.
 
Jason Robards, US Navy. was aboard heavy cruiser USS Northampton when it was sunk off Guadalcanal. Also served on the USS Nashville during the invasion of the Philippines, surviving a kamikaze hit that caused 223 casualties.


Steve Reeves, US Army, Philippines.
 
Dennis Weaver, US Navy. Pilot.
 
Robert Taylor, US Navy. Instructor Pilot.
  
Randolph Scott. Tried to enlist in the Marines but was rejected due to injuries sustained in US Army, World War 1.
 
Ronald Reagan. US Army. Was a 2nd Lt. in the Cavalry Reserves before the war. His poor eyesight kept him from being sent overseas with his unit when war came so he transferred to the Army Air Corps Public Relations Unit where he served for the duration.


John Wayne. Declared "4F medically unfit" due to pre-existing injuries, he nonetheless attempted to volunteer three times (Army, Navy and Film Corps.) so he gets honorable mention.


And of course we have Audie Murphy, America's most-decorated soldier, who became a Hollywood star as a result of his US Army service that included his being awarded the Medal of Honor.


Would someone please remind me again how many of today's Hollywood elite, sports celebs and politicians put their careers on hold to enlist for service in Iraq or Afghanistan?


The only one who even comes close was Pat Tillman, who turned down a contract offer of $3.6 million over three years from the Arizona Cardinals to enlist in the US Army after September, 11, 2001 and serve as a Ranger in Afghanistan, where he died in 2004.

 

But rather than being lauded for his choice and his decision to put his country before his career, he was mocked and derided by many of his peers.


Ladies and Gentlemen, I submit to you that this is not the America today that it was seventy years ago. And I, for one, am saddened.

 

My generation grew up watching, being entertained by and laughing with so many of these fine people, never really knowing what they contributed to the war effort.  Like millions of Americans during the WWII, there was a job that needed doing they didn't question, they went and did it, those that came home returned to their now new normal life and carried on, very few ever saying what they did or saw.  They took it as their "responsibility", their "duty" to Country, to protect and preserve our freedoms and way of life, not just for themselves but for all future generations to come.  As a member of my generation, I'm forever humbly in their debt.

 

Thank you to all Veterans.

 

Walter M. Matuch

 

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Let's not forget some of the regular guys and gals:

 

My dad Robert - 9th USAAF

my mom Winifred Ann- British nurse

my aunt Gwen - British nurse

my uncle Leslie - British tank commander

my uncle Jody - US Army (Silver Star)

my uncle Edward - US Army Gunnery Sargent

my father-in-law - US Army Medic (Bronze Star)

 

If you want to read some interesting stuff, look up Robert Rosenthal, pilot of the B-17 Rosie's Riveters.  Why a movie hasn't been made about this man I'll never know, although I doubt a movie could capture the essence of the written word of his accounts.

Amen... and God bless to those who serve, and have served, to protect Our America and those Freedoms we never take for granted.  true, so we can enjoy those Freedoms bought with the sacrifices of so many....

 

I have many relatives, and friends, I wish to thank, and do thank many times.  From my distant, distant relative they called Flag bearer due to his doing that as a young man in the late 1770s... documented and honored.  To my grandfather, too old for WWll, but worked on B 29s in factories in Pratt and Wichita, Kansas, and at Tinker AFB here in OKC, Oklahoma.  To my father who served in Army Corps Engineers WWll, France to Philippine Islands.  To my father-in-law in tank corps from France and Germany during WWll.  My many uncles who served in Korea, cousins in Nam and Desert Storm, Iraq and Afganistan, plus those still serving world wide.  And to those we lost in Nam... close friends and classmates from class of '68 to '70.  God bless them all..........

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Alfred E. Neuman.... Yes, it relates very much so to model railroading.  One, my father who, up until a couple months before his passing, shared the wonder of model railroading in O gauge with his children.  And how many of us have the same story, the memories of our veteran fathers/mothers enjoying trains with us?  Not to mention other relatives we enjoyed trains with us all around Christmas, many who served our America in the Armed Forces.  Yes, trains and those who have/do serve have much to do with the fact we can enjoy our trains in Peace.

  My father also lied about his age and enlisted in the Army in 1942 at the age of 16.  Also, mentioning Lee Marvin above, on the Tonight show one time, he stated the bravest man he ever knew was Bob _______ aka Captain Kangaroo.  Bob was his squad leader during an island landing/operations and Lee Marvin said he never faltered, stood up in leading his men and was credited with saving the lives of many his men.  And, who else, besides me, always watched Captain Kangaroo to see the great Lionel layout they had on the show?

 

Yes, we all owe much to the Greatest Generation for our Freedoms, including running trains, sharing them with generations who follow.

 

Jesse

I have a #41 U.S. Army switcher that Dad gave my older brothers in the '50s.

 

Dad served in the 82nd AB in N. Africa, Sicily, and Normandy and was then transferred into the 101st AB just in time to be trucked into Bastogne.  After the war when the GM strike prevented him from returning to work for them as he had prewar, Dad enlisted in the USAF/MoANG and served on NG Active Duty until the '70s for a total of 33 years of service before being forced into retirement by a severe back injury.

 

Dad was one of the two men who got me into trains (the other one, my Grandfather, who was the wrong age for either World War, was Jimmy Doolittle's mechanic on his Shell Oil research team between the wars).

 

The history of the 20th Century is inextricably linked with the model railroading hobby--there was no more defining moment in it than WWII, e.g.--so, yes, this thread DOES pertain to trains.

Hey, it is Veterans Day today.  I had to explain to one of my employees today what that means.  I enjoy seeing these photos and stories.  I never knew that many actors were involved.  Today's gen of actors would be protesting somewhere with Jane.

NCJOE is right, without the veterans we would not enjoy the everyday freedoms we take for granted.
I only heard my dad talk about WWII four times in my life and then only when it was pulled or cajoled out of him.  I can't imagine the things he described.  After seeing the BBC series World At War, I sort of understood.  I still have his basic manual, metals, etc.
I never saw a hostile bullet in my six years, but have been told that it is a life changing experience. 
What that generation did for the country is immeasurable, otherwise this forum would be in German or Japanese.

They were the greatest generation, no question, most importantly due to their selflessness.  Unfortunately I think today's generation would quite appropriately be called the most selfish generation.  The best argument for that assertion is the "selfie".  Who else would come up with such nonsense as this phenomenon, the obsession of constantly taking pictures of one's self.  This of course is followed by this social media garbage where people post constant updates as to what they are doing seemingly every minute of every day as if they were some sort of celebrity themselves.  Not that I care what the so-called celebrities are doing either.  

 

Faced with another challenge like the greatest generation faced I think we'd be lost.  Not enough selfless people in this country who are willing to sacrifice for others.  Too much of this attitude that "I" am the most important person in the world.

 

So thank you to all veterans, we owe you a debt that can never be repaid. 

 

 

Just my .02,

John

The Greatest Generation came home and fueled the golden age of Lionel by buying those great postwar sets for a whole lot of baby boomers.

 

My partial thanks list (I started to write down all of the neighbor's, family and teachers, but it approached a hundred people)

Chris, USAF, who wore a black beret; Larry and Ralph, who wore green ones; Frank, James and Franklin, SEALs; Ross, Silver Star in WWII

Dad (USNR USS Accomac/LST 710) Uncles Jack, John, Harry and Johnny, all Army WWII 

Cousin Gary USMC combat wounded (twice) Vietnam

Brother-in-law John, USS Forrestal, there for the explosion and fire

Nephew Boo, his son, currently serving, USMC

Great-nephew Brian, my dad's great-grandson, currently on USS New Orleans

 

There were so many more. Our principal and most of our teachers were all veterans.

My Father, only 17 years old, was in the Normandy Beach Invasion at Omaha Beach with the U.S. Navy as a LST Driver. Twice he thought that the 88mm shells were coming to the LST he was on, but both missed. He saw a friend of his getting hit by the 88mm shell, and for a brief instant, there was a hole in the water where this LST was. Later, after the beach head was secured, he assisted with the Medics to help the wounded on Omaha Beach. He never told me how bad this was, but the opening scene in 'Saving Private Ryan' was slightly close, but more bloody. Now I know why he was always sickened when the Roast beef was not cooked all the way.

 

My great uncle on Dad's side, WW1 (I have that very helmet in my collection):

Myself, at various times:

 

 

Direct descendants on my dad's side of the family...

Me: US Army, 1998-2006 (Captain when I got out)

My brother: USAF, 1986-2006 (retired at a LtCol)

Dad: USAF, late 50s

Uncles (on both sides of the family, 5 total): All served at various times, WW2 to 'Nam

Granddad: WW1, Army field artillery, France

Great Granddad: Spanish American War

Great Great Granddad: Civil War (Confederate States of America, he lived into the 1930s)

...and so on, and so on. War of 1812, Revolution, someone directly related to me was there for all of them.

The only men on either side of my family who didn't serve (as far back as anyone has been able to trace) were my Mom's father as he had a defense job exemption that they wouldn't release him to the military and a cousin of mine who had medical issues from childhood that wouldn't allow him to serve.

Pressure to serve? Nope. They tried to talk me out of it, in fact.

I was born and raised in the south, and anyone who's served will confirm that you'll finda lot of southern boys and girls in uniform.

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Memorial Day for the fallen,

 

Veterans Day for those lucky enough to return and or serve.

 

Two days is not too much to ask to honor those who paid the high cost of freedom.

 

And yes, you have more freedoms than any one person in history including freedom:

- to travel to a train show out of state without checkpoints or papers

- to have an opinion

- to voice, publish, or print your opinion

- to have more than one manufacturer of toy trains

- to have toy trains

and on and on . . .

 

Either study, preserve, and LEARN from history, or be prepared to repeat it.

Originally Posted by Jim Berger:
Originally Posted by Alfred E Neuman:

Please remind me how this thread relates to model railroading.  Were any of the people mentioned also model railroaders?

 

 

 

 

What, me worry?

very sad this reply got 2 likes.......Jim

very sad some one thinks so low of our veterans to start with that there can't be a post thanking them so they could be here to say what they wish. 

Originally Posted by rtraincollector:
very sad some one thinks so low of our veterans to start with that there can't be a post thanking them so they could be here to say what they wish. 

Yeah, but in the end, even I can't say there is no merit to the question on what this topic has to do with model trains.

I mean, it is a valid point, regardless how you feel on the subject.

I find it odd that people try to shoehorn veteran topics wherever they feel like, and almost challenging anyone who questions it almost to ask, "what, do you hate veterans?" Almost reminds me on 'The Simpsons' when someone would randomly yell, "Will someone please think of the children!" at times of peril.

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Originally Posted by NJCJOE:
Originally Posted by Alfred E Neuman:

Please remind me how this thread relates to model railroading.  Were any of the people mentioned also model railroaders?

 

 

 

 

What, me worry?

Well let's just say, without these veterans you would not be playing with your toy trains.

Sure he could.  Germans, Japanese, Italians and Russians have toy trains.  LGB, Marklin, Faller and Fleischmann from Germany, Kato and Tomix from Japan and Rivarossi from Italy, among others, would not have denied access to toy trains as American boys (of any age) assimilated under the Axis powers.   The Soviet Union even made O-gauge trains during the Postwar era (1951-1969), although they have Joseph Stalin's initials instead of Blt by Lionel.    

Id like to sound off here, props to the greatest generation, they more than earned that moniker!!  Having spent 24+ years in the Navy&Army, I have whitnessed plenty of "heros", most all of which go un-noticed!  So for those of you that served  thank you from the bottom of my heart!!  You and your families sacrifice means something to myself and my family!!

Yeah, but in the end, even I can't say there is no merit to the question on what this topic has to do with model trains.

I mean, it is a valid point, regardless how you feel on the subject.

 

The forum moderators welcome a topic thread or two of warm wishes on our holidays .... Christmas, Memorial Day, etc

 

Why does that even bother you people?

Originally Posted by Alfred E Neuman:

Please remind me how this thread relates to model railroading.  Were any of the people mentioned also model railroaders?

 

 

 

 

What, me worry?

 

Wow. Just wow.  I can't believe that this was posted, and that 4 others "Like" it.

 

This thread was about honoring our Veterans that have served, some ultimately, and began with mention of those that were very much in the public eye, that served this country, some with distinction. Others are very proud of the fact that they have had family members serve, some of those on this forum have served, and served proudly. To those of you I salute and thank you for your service.

 

To all you that feel "ashamed" of America, or true Americans, as well as what we believe in and stand for:

 

Disgusted with the USA?  Don't like the ideals it was based upon, and for the better part of 200 years lived by? Not willing to stand and fight for the right to be the USA?

 

No problem: Pack your crap and move to the country of your choice. We'll get along just fine without you. Oh, and don't let the door hit your behind on the way out.

 

To the rest of you that are glad to be here in the USA and proud of those from among us that serve in our Military: Thank God I was born an American!!!

 

 

This back-and-forth reminds me of the time a breast cancer group went through every group in a parade, pretty much demanding everyone display pink stuff for their cause. They got to my WW2 re-enacting group, and saw all our WW2 vehicles, weapons and uniforms. My Jeep, for example, carries nothing later than 1944, when it was made, either in the form of original items or faithful reproductions.
You should have seen the fit they threw when I explained I don't carry anything modern in such parades or displays, and while I agreed respectfully that theirs was a worthy cause, there's a time and place for everything and it simply wasn't my duty to be a communication channel for every single group that happened to come by. In short, I wasn't there for their cause, just as they weren't there for mine; to portray WW2 soldiers to a public who normally never sees anything like that in person. I told the same thing to the guys the previous year who threw an equal fit that I wouldn't carry a POW/MIA flag on my Jeep, because again, it didn't exist in 1944.
To ask the question if a thread on vets has anything to do with the purpose of this forum is a reasonable thing. I really wonder why the question alone bugs anyone.
 
 
Originally Posted by Matt01:
       

Yeah, but in the end, even I can't say there is no merit to the question on what this topic has to do with model trains.

I mean, it is a valid point, regardless how you feel on the subject.

 

The forum moderators welcome a topic thread or two of warm wishes on our holidays .... Christmas, Memorial Day, etc

 

Why does that even bother you people?


       

By "you people," you mean myself, a 8th generation veteran who carries scars from serving the nation?

It doesn't 'bother' me as such but I can't ignore the initial question on what this topic has to do with model trains. The answer is, it doesn't. Why does that question bother you people?

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