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Title says it all, I'm thinking seriously about getting into Legacy. I had a TMCC engine a long time ago bit it no longer runs and I don't have TMCC anymore. I'm a hardcore DCS guy and have DCS and about 9 or 10 DCS PS2 and PS3 locomotives. 

 

I'm interested in buying the Legacy command set as well as one Legacy engine either a small diesel or a small steamer if I can find one for a good price. My LHS has a GP9...anyone have recommendations?

 

I've heard many horror stories about issues resulted from running DCS and Legacy together on the same track which is something I would do, run the Legacy engine on the same track as a PS2 or PS3 engine. Should I be concerned? I've seen a lot of layouts where Legacy and DCS coexist peacefully as well.

 

Another thing, I have a small 4x8 layout and I like to run two trains on the main loop, how hard is it to match the Legacy speed steps with DCS's SMPH. I realize it won't be exact and that Legacy doesn't display SMPH but is it hard to generally match speeds without much throttle jockeying?  

 

Any other tips/recommendations? I really have about 10 minutes of Legacy operating experience and not much old school TMCC experience as well. 

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I had Legacy, I just plugged in the DCS TIU, connected the Legacy terminal to the track, and I can run either and both at the same time.  There are wiring considerations for large layouts for either Legacy or DCS, but a 4x8 layout will probably just drop in and run.

 

Matching speed is not too bad, it's really by eye since as you say, Legacy and DCS don't have the same speed scales.  You have to realize that you'll never match the speed perfectly, even with DCS engines.  I've run four DCS engines at once on a single loop about 60 feet long, and running all of them at the same scale MPH, none of them ran exactly the same speed.  They were close, but I'd occasionally have to jockey the throttle of one or two to get them spaced properly again.  I can do as well with the legacy locomotives.  I tend to start them together and get the speed matched when they're close together, making it easy, then slow one until the spacing is right and finally bring it back to the "matched" speed.

 

Originally Posted by SJC:

I've heard many horror stories about issues resulted from running DCS and Legacy together on the same track which is something I would do, run the Legacy engine on the same track as a PS2 or PS3 engine. 

I'm sure glad I didn't hear or pay attention to any horror stories because I'm now running both DCS and Legacy on my layout.  The two seem to be co-existing just fine, and even though I have long wished there would be just one comprehensive command control system for all makes of trains (a 3-rail version of DCC, in effect),  I realize that's probably just a pipe dream for now. 

Legacy frequencies  FM

Wireless CAB-1 to TMCC Command Base at 27 MHz

Wireless CAB-2 to and from Legacy Command Base at 2.4 GHz  with 9 different channels is equivalent to 2400 MHz or 100 times more hertz or signal that moves through the air than the CAB1.

455kilo hertz to track

8 or 9 bit digital signal - 8 bit TMCC engines, 9 bit legacy engines only.

32 speed steps cab1

200 speed steps Cab2

I know the frequencies but I saw no need to complicate the post with them. The original post refers to whether Legacy would be any different than TMCC at the track level and whether DCS is compatible with Legacy. At this level, command base to track there isn't any difference between Legacy and TMCC except for the 9 bit versus 8 bit.

Ron

Originally Posted by RailfanRon:

The original post refers to whether Legacy would be any different than TMCC at the track level and whether DCS is compatible with Legacy. At this level, command base to track there isn't any difference between Legacy and TMCC except for the 9 bit versus 8 bit.

Ron

 

Thanks Ron. That is exactly what I was wondering...sounds like I should be OK when I add Legacy in the coming weeks/months. 

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