I think the title of this post says it all and I also think there will be a run on standard gauge at the next York.
@Keith k posted:I think the title of this post says it all and I also think there will be a run on standard gauge at the next York.
That already started at the last York. For several years, after the market got saturated, modern standard gauge could be found at bargain prices, especially the MTH stuff that wasn't marked "Lionel".
I also think that a distinction needs to be drawn between prewar standard gauge and modern production. A lot of the current demand is being driven by people who want to run modern standard gauge with digital control. I don't think it will have much impact on the demand for prewar - rare/pristine items will continue to be expensive, and common / lower-condition items will be relatively inexpensive.
Let us hope those of us who prefer the traditional, non-digital, MTH Tinplate Traditions will still have some inventory to choose from the usual sources! :-)
@Mallard4468 posted:A lot of the current demand is being driven by people who want to run modern standard gauge with digital control.
Yep. That's me. Always looking for PS 2 & PS 3 but very rarely see any.
My ex moved to S Florida about 4 years ago and she was fond of the trains and encouraged me to build our layout back in 2009. She liked the Blue Comet and her middle name is Faye so when we divorced I gave her my Lionel Classics Standard Gauge set with the 3 cars. I obtained it from the original owner bought new in the 1990s. It had only been displayed and is in LN condition as far as I know. My wife mentioned a year or so ago that she might consider selling it to have some dental work done that she needs. She is in a small condo and has no place to display it so perhaps now would be a good time to let it go? If anyone has interest and would give her a fair price plz contact me and I'll see if she's still considering selling. Thanks.
I believe now that MTH is closing their doors that the earlier MTH Tinplate Traditional boxed items will become just as desirable or maybe even surpass the later MTH Lionel marked items. Mainly to collect a historical account of the company.
Here's an image of the new freight cars behind the 3243 electric from my Wanamaker set.
These are essentially Lionel 200 series cars with IVES couplers - accurate I believe for a short time that Lionel was the sole owner of IVES before cutting back the line completely due to the depression.
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I think prices on MTH Tinplate Traditions and Lionel LCT items have been steadily increasing on EBAY ever since Mike’s retirement/MTH closing announcement. I think these prices will keep rising until it’s clear there is not a buyer, and production has ceased.
If there is no buyer then prices may continue to rise.
If there is a buyer, the rising prices and hoarding might calm down until we see what the new buyers intentions are regarding making more tinplate.
A few years ago I heard from MTH that they would not be making new tinplate for quite some time. So by the time of Mikes announcement in June, store inventories were already low. Now it’s almost non existant.
I collect and operate Standard Gauge Lionel locos with PS2 and PS3 and modern Lionel Standard Gauge rolling stock. Luckily for me, I started buying in 2017 and had bought just about everything I wanted before Mikes retirement announcement. Right after the announcement I did start thinking of a few items that were on my radar, and how they might not ever be made again, and if I wanted them I should buy them now. I found the rolling stock at decent prices on EBay, patience and lots of searching was key. I also bought a black 400e with Protosounds 3 from the first Cabin Fever auction.
There are still a couple of pieces of rolling stock that I would like to have, but do not need. I see them now on EBay, but I will not overpay for them. I might find them at the next York, or in an auction, if I never get them, that’s ok too.
I hope that MTH continues on as is, with a new owner, and eventually makes more tinplate, or that MTH sells the tinplate dies and tooling to someone who will make more.
These items are little works of art, and bring me great pleasure.
I don't have every O gauge tinplate locomotive that MTH has produced in their Tinplate Traditions and LCT lines, but I've come pretty darn close. When I see something I don't already have that is new in box, I tend to snap it up these days.
@scott.smith posted:Don't we wish. Lionel doesn't get it. They don't understand tinplate. There are unwritten rules to tinplate.
1) Color Counts and not prototypical colors, the more beautiful the better.
2)Toy like appearance is a selling point.
3) There are some purest that want original open frame motors and limited to no sounds, these people are a loud minority of customers buying tinplate today. Most of them won't buy the product anyway since they are not originals. Most people buying modern tinplate are operators. A friend of mine that collects European Tinplate, his collection and layout were in a TM video a few years back. "Most of my friends would cringe seeing you operate your trains instead of just displaying them."
4)Tinplate Operators generally like sounds and smoke. This actually adds to the toy like appearance. Mike Wolf was not in favor in offering tinplate with sounds and command but one of his employees talked him into trying it and the sales took off.Let's look at Lionel's last tinplate offerings.
On the O-Scale side they offered a Flying Yankee and a small steamer set. The flying Yankee set was 100% traditional and so was the small steam set. The steam set had no smoke and had flat paint (see rule #1). Stores still have these for sale.The standard gauge offerings. The Hiawatha and the Commodore Vanderbilt. Both were fine looking sets however;
*They were built to look like scale trains (see rule #2)
*The Vanderbilt was painted a prototypical drab dark gray color like the real locomotive. (See Rule #1)
*They had open frame motors without any cruise control; mine had one speed-fast. It always seemed as it was going to run right off my elevated track.
If Lionel would have offered the Vanderbilts in different colors (like red, blue streak), they would have sold out rather than being forced to blow them out at a loss.
Scott Smith
Scott, interesting viewpoint on Standard Gauge. The Lionel Hiawatha is, in my humble opinion, one of the finest sets every made, still has that tinplate look (rimmed drivers, lots of chrome), built like a tank, cars also have tinplate style. The Commodore Vanderbilt was K-Line's attempt to one up Lionel on price, Lionel picked up the sets from the builder after K-Line went bankrupt. Lionel gave up after that because they produced a lot more than the market could absorb. They like to get the stuff made, bring it into the US, ship to shops and be done with it.
There is a LOT of repro Standard Gauge out there in collections that will come up again and again over the next 10-20 years. Remember - Williams started to make repro's in the late 1970's, Mike continued into 2019, and the 'Classic Era' Lionel standard gauge was really only made from about 1924 - 1935 (catalogued for a few years after, but selling off stock), so the repro's have been in production for almost 4 times as long as the originals. Some panic buying now, and lots of COVID eyeballs at home and thinking trains. Every mail order shop and builder (including me) have seen their businesses grow through the past year. Expect lots of collections coming up for auction, probably every month for the foreseeable future. Prices will slim down again when all our train rooms are too packed to walk into (like mine). Many collectors either liquidating, or passing away. Fewer entering the market.
I will continue to build low quantities of customized standard gauge for the foreseeable future - assuming I can get parts.
Jim
If I might demur, I don't want new-fangled electronics in my SG. I do run them, but I have no desire for realistic special effects. I want the old-school grinding and growling. And so I buy original.
The appeal to me has nothing to do with gee-whiz gimcrakcery but rather the history. The age of the pieces appeals to me, so I won't be in competition with anyone who wants the repros. I appreciate the survival of these toys, the atmosphere of an age passed away but not completely forgotten.
I cannot foresee ever being able to afford many of the originals, but that's OK. I only have so much room, anyway. But it satisfies some part of me to hold a toy in my hands that was made nigh on 100 years ago and has been passed down intact and still usable. I try to imagine what child received it originally and what that experience must have been like. I find a comfort in them that no new toy can ever provide me.
(If, for some reason I cannot foresee, I had to buy a repro, it would be with the original style motor. At least I can simulate the experience rather than distort it.)
I'm sorry. I'm Lost!
Are we talking about fairly modern, special runs of tinplate rolling stock?
Or, are we talking about old school, pre and post War tinplate stuff? (Grimy, a little rusty, attic stuff).
Thanks,
Mannyrock
@Allan Miller posted:I don't have every O gauge tinplate locomotive that MTH has produced in their Tinplate Traditions and LCT lines, but I've come pretty darn close. When I see something I don't already have that is new in box, I tend to snap it up these days.
I've contemplated O-gauge tinplate but it won't operate on my current O-gauge layout with Ross Switches. If I had unlimited time I would consider adding another set of ground rails to my outside loop of standard gauge track. I've always liked the 256 electrical and passenger sets that match. Maybe when in person train meets start up again you'll get a chance to fill in some holes!
@Mannyrock posted:I'm sorry. I'm Lost!
Are we talking about fairly modern, special runs of tinplate rolling stock?
Or, are we talking about old school, pre and post War tinplate stuff? (Grimy, a little rusty, attic stuff).
Thanks,
Mannyrock
This thread is primarily about modern tinplate. MTH produced a line called "Tinplate Traditions" which were remakes of older trains. More recently, MTH and Lionel had an agreement to sell tinplate (both O and Standard gauges) under the name Lionel Corporation Tinplate. They issued a separate catalog for a number of years and became fairly popular as they offered a variety of motive power, rolling stock, sets, buildings and accessories. Look on the MTH web site and you'll find these catalogs.
That agreement to produce under the LCT line has now ended.
Thanks John
@palallin posted:If I might demur, I don't want new-fangled electronics in my SG. I do run them, but I have no desire for realistic special effects. I want the old-school grinding and growling. And so I buy original.
The appeal to me has nothing to do with gee-whiz gimcrakcery but rather the history. The age of the pieces appeals to me, so I won't be in competition with anyone who wants the repros. I appreciate the survival of these toys, the atmosphere of an age passed away but not completely forgotten.
I cannot foresee ever being able to afford many of the originals, but that's OK. I only have so much room, anyway. But it satisfies some part of me to hold a toy in my hands that was made nigh on 100 years ago and has been passed down intact and still usable. I try to imagine what child received it originally and what that experience must have been like. I find a comfort in them that no new toy can ever provide me.
(If, for some reason I cannot foresee, I had to buy a repro, it would be with the original style motor. At least I can simulate the experience rather than distort it.)
I'm with you on this, although I live in the lowly O gauge pre-war world. But maybe someday I'll make the leap (although I have a tiny house) The other great thing about the originals is you can repair them yourself. Preserving, restoring and running the originals just seems like a noble cause. No knock on the guys buying the modern stuff, though. Its pristine shine and (literally) bells and whistles have a certain appeal.
There are a great number of original prewar trains that are back on the rails thanks to the parts that were made available from the production of new standard gauge trains.
A tip of the hat to Mr Wolf for having the insight to making those parts available.
@palallin posted:If I might demur, I don't want new-fangled electronics in my SG. I do run them, but I have no desire for realistic special effects. I want the old-school grinding and growling. And so I buy original.
The appeal to me has nothing to do with gee-whiz gimcrakcery but rather the history. The age of the pieces appeals to me, so I won't be in competition with anyone who wants the repros. I appreciate the survival of these toys, the atmosphere of an age passed away but not completely forgotten.
I cannot foresee ever being able to afford many of the originals, but that's OK. I only have so much room, anyway. But it satisfies some part of me to hold a toy in my hands that was made nigh on 100 years ago and has been passed down intact and still usable. I try to imagine what child received it originally and what that experience must have been like. I find a comfort in them that no new toy can ever provide me.
(If, for some reason I cannot foresee, I had to buy a repro, it would be with the original style motor. At least I can simulate the experience rather than distort it.)
Okay then. No more modern tinplate threads!
@palallin posted:If I might demur, I don't want new-fangled electronics in my SG. I do run them, but I have no desire for realistic special effects. I want the old-school grinding and growling. And so I buy original.
The appeal to me has nothing to do with gee-whiz gimcrakcery but rather the history. The age of the pieces appeals to me, so I won't be in competition with anyone who wants the repros. I appreciate the survival of these toys, the atmosphere of an age passed away but not completely forgotten.
I cannot foresee ever being able to afford many of the originals, but that's OK. I only have so much room, anyway. But it satisfies some part of me to hold a toy in my hands that was made nigh on 100 years ago and has been passed down intact and still usable. I try to imagine what child received it originally and what that experience must have been like. I find a comfort in them that no new toy can ever provide me.
(If, for some reason I cannot foresee, I had to buy a repro, it would be with the original style motor. At least I can simulate the experience rather than distort it.)
My very first memories of seeing a toy train run was when my father set up my grandfather's 352E set consisting of a Peacock 10E and matching cars in the basement of our home sometime around the late 1970's.
My father and my uncle used to take all of the furniture out of my father's bedroom when they lived at home, from Thanksgiving to New Years Day and run their standard gauge trains. They would run the 352E set as well as a 390E steamer with freight cars my grandfather purchased for them one year for Christmas. This was the mid to late 1950's - standard gauge was already a distant memory and they were outside the mainstream playing with these "old toys."
In the mid 80's the local school system offered residents a night class where you could bring in your old toy train that doesn't work and get it repaired. I took the 10E in and got it refurbished - it runs fine even today. The 390E never ran as well according to my father. He took it to Olsen's here in Cleveland a few years ago and had new wheels put on it. It runs much better.
I can appreciate the history and why many people prefer originals. I too enjoy researching and reading about the various trains built by Lionel, American Flyer and IVES even though what I run is only a reproduction. I still remember, at the time I bought my reproduction brown state set with PS2 408E, I saw an auction for a single, original brown state car on eBay. The starting bid on the auction was the same price that I paid for my entire set - ~2K!
Run what you like and enjoy what you have!
Here's a few pics of the 352E set.
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Oh, that would be silly. I am talking only about me. I am not trying to convince anyone of anything, just sharing my perspective. And I have to agree with Keith K about the blessing that is repro parts.
@palallin posted:If I might demur, I don't want new-fangled electronics in my SG. I do run them, but I have no desire for realistic special effects. I want the old-school grinding and growling. And so I buy original.
<snip> (If, for some reason I cannot foresee, I had to buy a repro, it would be with the original style motor. At least I can simulate the experience rather than distort it.)
Well, yes, that is what the Traditional (i.e., new tinplate powered using three pole open frame motors) reproductions are for. The conventionally powered trains permit one to get one into sets that are very pricey as originals and yet have the 'feel' and reparability of the vintage trains.
Enjoy.
Bob
Wonderful set, Andrew!
Some distant relatives of mine once had a freight set behind a 10E that color. It had been carefully stored though not really temperature controlled. The drive wheels were crumbly when I saw it, which was probably 1977 or '78. Otherwise, it was in good shape (if I can trust my teen memory).
Years later, I made some overtures to my cousin (my mom's cousin, to be clear) about it, but she has since passed, and so has just about everyone else in that branch of the family. The property has been sold. I suspect the set was tossed somewhere in that process. If not, the one surviving daughter must be holding onto it tenaciously. I actually hope so. I wouldn't mind having it, but if the original owner's grand daughter and great grand daughter value it, I say great for them!
It won't be long before all the people that bought tinplate at inflated prices are back at York trying to unload it. A couple of years from now there will be bargains galore! 
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"It won't be long before all the people that bought tinplate at inflated prices are back at York trying to unload it. A couple of years from now there will be bargains galore! " quoted in a suitable font. 
Well, "Surprise, surprise, surprise!" in the voice of Gomer Pile. Think of acquiring some tinplate as an investment in good, clean fun.
Bob
I've been shopping MTH Tinplate engines for items that I do not have. In my initial reply to this post I explained that I had just put together a small freight train consisting of IVES cars. Concurrently, I tracked down a 3236E (Lionel #8) to pull these cars. However, I should have taken a step back and realized that the 3236E would probably look a little odd pulling the large freight cars.
So, plan B. I purchased a Lionel latch coupler and changed out one end of the 3236E so that I could pull the smaller 500 series Lionel cars (like the 8E did) and all is better with the world. I now have the best of the both worlds and if I should manage to track down a set of IVES passenger cars that match this engine I'll be all set. (Maybe I'll catch someone at York who overpaid for their set looking to sell for cheap!)
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@Bob Bubeck posted:"It won't be long before all the people that bought tinplate at inflated prices are back at York trying to unload it. A couple of years from now there will be bargains galore! " quoted in a suitable font.
Well, "Surprise, surprise, surprise!" in the voice of Gomer Pile. Think of acquiring some tinplate as an investment in good, clean fun.
Bob
Actually, I'd have to sell the tinplate short to make any money as an investment, I don't think it's going up in value in the long term.
@andrew posted:I've been shopping MTH Tinplate engines for items that I do not have. In my initial reply to this post I explained that I had just put together a small freight train consisting of IVES cars. Concurrently, I tracked down a 3236E (Lionel #8) to pull these cars. However, I should have taken a step back and realized that the 3236E would probably look a little odd pulling the large freight cars.
So, plan B. I purchased a Lionel latch coupler and changed out one end of the 3236E so that I could pull the smaller 500 series Lionel cars (like the 8E did) and all is better with the world. I now have the best of the both worlds and if I should manage to track down a set of IVES passenger cars that match this engine I'll be all set. (Maybe I'll catch someone at York who overpaid for their set looking to sell for cheap!)
Nothing wrong with your combo. I love the MTH/Ives 3236's, I own 4 of the sets. Ives offered the red 3236 with the black gondola and a red caboose and called it the red ball.
Last time I was in the Train Room in Hagerstown they had the Cadet Blue Engine and the matching cars for sale (separately) The boxes say light green but in reality they are the same Cadet Blue you have in your pictures. I hope you are able to complete your set.
Scott Smith
@scott.smith posted:Nothing wrong with your combo. I love the MTH/Ives 3236's, I own 4 of the sets. Ives offered the red 3236 with the black gondola and a red caboose and called it the red ball.
Last time I was in the Train Room in Hagerstown they had the Cadet Blue Engine and the matching cars for sale (separately) The boxes say light green but in reality they are the same Cadet Blue you have in your pictures. I hope you are able to complete your set.
Scott Smith
Scott, thanks for the heads up! As a matter of fact, I purchased my 3236E from the Train Room. I did not ask about the cars when I purchased it because I did not see it in his inventory on the MTH product locator. Given the the information above, I've reached back out and inquired.
Andrew
@gunrunnerjohn posted:Actually, I'd have to sell the tinplate short to make any money as an investment, I don't think it's going up in value in the long term.
I hope you're right. Waiting... impatiently. 
Permit me to show another example (in addition to Andrew's) of how new tinplate can be used to put together appealing consists. Recently, I acquired the requisite pieces to assemble and run an equivalent of a 358E Work Train Outfit. Although MTH could have done this as a set, they never chose to do so. Heading up the train is an LCT traditional 400E in black crackle followed by a 212 (vintage 'Wine' Lionel) gondola with a tool kit and barrels, Tinplate Traditions 219 derrick car, 220 floodlight car, and 218 dump car and an LCT 217 caboose shown in succession in the pics below. The derrick is posed with a 205 merchandise container. The 218 was not part of this outfit, per se, but is a logical add-on. Actually if one drops the floodlight car and substitutes my Lionel Classics 1-390E, one has a facsimile of the 1930 358E outfit. Not vintage (for the most part), but a lot of fun. And, if one would opt for one, a vintage black crackle 400E verges on being unobtainium.
An O gauge LCCA/LCT Prospector and a Lionel Classics '283W' "Baby" Blue Comet Outfit can be seen in the background. Both are new tinplate and have traditional motors and air whistles. Actually, the Baby Blue Comet isn't so new. It's 30 years old.
Enjoy your tinplate!
Bob
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@Bob Bubeck posted:Permit me to show another example (in addition to Andrew's) of how new tinplate can be used to put together appealing consists. Recently, I acquired the requisite pieces to assemble and run an equivalent of a 358E Work Train Outfit. Although MTH could have done this as a set, they never chose to do so. Heading up the train is an LCT traditional 400E in black crackle followed by a 212 (vintage 'Wine' Lionel) gondola with a tool kit and barrels, Tinplate Traditions 219 derrick car, 220 floodlight car, and 218 dump car and an LCT 217 caboose shown in succession in the pics below. The derrick is posed with a 205 merchandise container. The 218 was not part of this outfit, per se, but is a logical add-on. Actually if one drops the floodlight car and substitutes my Lionel Classics 1-390E, one has a facsimile of the 1930 358E outfit. Not vintage (for the most part), but a lot of fun. And, if one would opt for one, a vintage black crackle 400E verges on being unobtainium.
An O gauge LCCA/LCT Prospector and a Lionel Classics '283W' "Baby" Blue Comet Outfit can be seen in the background. Both are new tinplate and have traditional motors and air whistles. Actually, the Baby Blue Comet isn't so new. It's 30 years old.
Enjoy your tinplate!
Bob
Bob,
Very nice! I like the fact that you like to assemble your freight trains to match existing outfits that Lionel cataloged. I like to do the same thing. I don't own very many freight cars but I like to match locomotives with passenger cars where possible. For example, in 1933 Lionel cataloged outfit 375E that consisted of a gunmetal 385E with the Stephen Girard cars. My Stephen Girard set came with a traditional 9E but a few years ago I picked up a gray 385E with brass trim that looks great pulling the cars. I purchased a 390E quite a few years ago that also pulled the Stephen Girard set in 1931 in the 368E outfit. Last year I picked up a set of 309-310-312 cars that were cataloged with the 390E for a couple years starting in 1929 though not in the color combination I have, maroon and terra cotta. Buy hey, its close!
Andrew
I've been looking for a 10E, either separately or in a set and they are very hard to find. There is a current auction on Ebay for one taken from an X-Mas set but this came up after I purchased mine. I found a red and cream #10E that fits nicely into my collection. I sought out a set of passenger cars but I do not think that MTH cataloged a red set for sale separately - they only came in a RTR set. To me, the only passenger cars that will go with this are either red or maybe a gray set. After looking I was surprised to find a reasonably priced set of Lionel Classics in red and cream on Ebay. When they arrived I found that these cars are the slightly larger, 309-310-312 series cars - not the 330 series I was looking for. The large cars look good with the 10E and I can also put the 318 or the 390E on the front.
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@andrew posted:I've been looking for a 10E, either separately or in a set and they are very hard to find. There is a current auction on Ebay for one taken from an X-Mas set but this came up after I purchased mine. I found a red and cream #10E that fits nicely into my collection. I sought out a set of passenger cars but I do not think that MTH cataloged a red set for sale separately - they only came in a RTR set. To me, the only passenger cars that will go with this are either red or maybe a gray set. After looking I was surprised to find a reasonably priced set of Lionel Classics in red and cream on Ebay. When they arrived I found that these cars are the slightly larger, 309-310-312 series cars - not the 330 series I was looking for. The large cars look good with the 10E and I can also put the 318 or the 390E on the front.
I bought the starter set last year with the 339, 339, 341.
Steve
@andrew posted:I've been looking for a 10E, either separately or in a set and they are very hard to find. There is a current auction on Ebay for one taken from an X-Mas set but this came up after I purchased mine. I found a red and cream #10E that fits nicely into my collection. I sought out a set of passenger cars but I do not think that MTH cataloged a red set for sale separately - they only came in a RTR set. To me, the only passenger cars that will go with this are either red or maybe a gray set. After looking I was surprised to find a reasonably priced set of Lionel Classics in red and cream on Ebay. When they arrived I found that these cars are the slightly larger, 309-310-312 series cars - not the 330 series I was looking for. The large cars look good with the 10E and I can also put the 318 or the 390E on the front.
Did you leave any inventory at the Train Room?
Scott Smith
@scott.smith posted:Did you leave any inventory at the Train Room?
Scott Smith
There is still plenty of inventory there including accessories, passenger sets and freight cars but no more little electrics 
Unfortunately, he didn't have the cars to go with my 3236 but he did email me back and let me know he still has (1) IVES 10-1230-1 set in stock. (This doesn't show up in his inventory on the product locator) I have this set in the Wanamaker version, the electric is what I'm using to pull my IVES freight cars.
From poking around the MTH product locator there seems to be more Tinplate set options for those who run traditional.
There seems to be a constant flow of tinplate items on Cabin Fever's auction site. Here is one I just noticed appear.
@Frank Mulligan posted:There seems to be a constant flow of tinplate items on Cabin Fever's auction site. Here is one I just noticed appear.
I've never participated in one of these type of auctions but there is some nice stuff listed. I have, however, been watching ebay and some MTH items have been fetching extraordinary high prices as of late. An MTH Standard Gauge IVES 3245R Electric sold for $1200 and just this morning, a Jersey Central 384E sold for $883.
@andrew posted:I've never participated in one of these type of auctions but there is some nice stuff listed. I have, however, been watching ebay and some MTH items have been fetching extraordinary high prices as of late. An MTH Standard Gauge IVES 3245R Electric sold for $1200 and just this morning, a Jersey Central 384E sold for $883.
The like new Short Hood 3245R was returned to the seller.
Steve
So I'm still quietly adding more smaller items to my roster. A few weeks ago I saw an ad on the TCA website for an MTH Tinplate Traditions 3 car passenger set, 10-5075. The cars are shown in the catalog painted two tone blue and labeled in the 323-324-325 series. The red Lionel Classics set I purchased recently also had three cars labeled 323-324-325. The red cars are the same size as the 309-310-312 medium series cars that Lionel made. I've gone through my Greenberg's guide more than once and don't see anywhere where Lionel ever made this set in these colors or car numbers for that matter. They did, for one year (1934), produce a 309-310-312 set with cars that have a blue body with a silver roof.
When the cars arrived I discovered that these cars are actually the same size as the 330 series cars, the smallest in the standard gauge line. I'm not upset in the slightest because these make an excellent passenger car set pulled with my IVES 3236 (Lionel 8E). The IVES cadet blue doesn't match the two-tone blue (blue comet) paint scheme but I think it looks great.
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