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Wow .. its been a couple of months since I last had any suprises show up !

Today isnt a surprise however , more a plan coming together ... A couple of months ago I would have posted some Hornby loco bodies I picked up  ( to refresh your memories here they are again )

I grabbed these simply because they were in quite a nice condition ( and yes there is a boiler front for the one missing it ) with the plan one day to hopefully find a couple of mechanisms for them ... Well this week those mechs will be coming to be courtesy of a fellow Aussie ( Nick) who when cleaning out his closet found some pre-war Hornby manual reversing mechs in need of some love ...

So out of those four we should get both units up and running with a little luck ... The good news is , the one body unit without the steam chests at the front (#5508) is a factory omission and quite a bit rarer than the normal unit with siderods and steam chest , assuming it was a special order made to sell at a cheaper price point thru a retailer .

So two more pre-war Hornby's to live again !

@FRENCHTRAINS - Daniel, great set for sure.  I also noticed in the picture what seems to be a life sized (or perhaps real) locomotive head lamp in the background.  Do you have any history on that?

@Fatman - looks like you have some work cut out for you to bring back some of those Hornby locos.  However the shells seem in beautiful shape. Your comment on the steam chest omission was really interesting.  Did Hornby actually make custom modifications for a particular retailer?  Lionel and Marx made all kinds of substitutions to sets and some to loco's and rolling stock.  Marx in particular would either add or remove side rods to bring the price down or boost the perceived value.

@Arne- beautiful passenger cars.  I looked in my only reference covering Issmayer and Bub and did see some similar cars but in a yellow / red livery in the 1928 Bub catalog.   Would these cars have been one of the many shared items between Issmayer and Bub?

Best wishes and thanks for the postings

Don

@Don McErlean , in 1932 on Hornby offered a "revised body Style" of the No.0 locomotives ( colloquially called "Longsplashers", referring to the longer one piece splash guards over the wheels  ) and in 1937-9 they also made some without the steam chests , possibly as a cost cutting measure to appeal to more cash strapped buyers ?

UK retailers were a funny bunch and some of the emerging "supermarket" chains would only stock some things like toys if they were "unbranded" , Gamages was one such retailer .. In this way Meccano was able to make some money from these chains without technically undercutting their existing dealerships . Note the description in this post war train ad

Meccano actually produced a set with no Hornby branding at all under the name " British Express"

http://www.binnsroad.co.uk/rai...britishex/index.html

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@Don McErlean , in 1932 on Hornby offered a "revised body Style" of the No.0 locomotives ( colloquially called "Longsplashers", referring to the longer one piece splash guards over the wheels  ) and in 1937-9 they also made some without the steam chests , possibly as a cost cutting measure to appeal to more cash strapped buyers ?

UK retailers were a funny bunch and some of the emerging "supermarket" chains would only stock some things like toys if they were "unbranded" , Gamages was one such retailer .. In this way Meccano was able to make some money from these chains without technically undercutting their existing dealerships . Note the description in this post war train ad

Meccano actually produced a set with no Hornby branding at all under the name " British Express"

http://www.binnsroad.co.uk/rai...britishex/index.html

Was Gamages a supermarket chain?  I thought they were more of a department store, or am I just getting confused by differences in how our two countries say things?  I know that Gamages also marketed trains that American Flyer built for the British market, which were lithographed as British Flyer trains.  American Flyer produced these trains around 1920 or so, per advertisements of the day.  The unusual thing about the British Flyer engines is that they were specifically marketed for the British market as they featured non-American boiler designs.

NWL

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@FRENCHTRAINS - Daniel, great set for sure.  I also noticed in the picture what seems to be a life sized (or perhaps real) locomotive head lamp in the background.  Do you have any history on that?



Hello Don,

Sorry I am a little late. The railway lantern on the picture is a real one, it is a tail lantern and it is missing the red glass that I need to replace. It dates from the 40's and i have no more history about it.

All my best wishes, Daniel

Solid Trains

  Like many of us my first introduction to the world of trains beyond the 4 x 8 foot plywood prairie or the living room broadloom frontier was the Bantam paperback Model Railroading featuring the world of Lionel trains.  I poured over that book and spent endless hours reading and re-reading sections, looking at the blueprints of all of those possible railroad empires, and studying the various pictures.

  As it turned out, my favorite pictures, which I returned to time and again, were the railroad empire pictures on pages 18, 97 and 125 of the 4th edition.  Of the group, the one that never ceased to amaze me was the one on page 18.

MR_Bantamred

  It wasn't the scenery so much as the train in the picture and the text which said "Model railroaders who accumulate equipment throughout the years often wind up with "solid trains" of coal cars, "reefers" and others. Shown above is a "solid train" of cattle cars...."

  At that point in my life, it was a very big deal to have just one hopper, reefer, or cattle car. The idea that someday I might actually have a solid train of any of these items was more than I thought would ever be possible.

  As we all know, time passes, you grow up, and, if the passion for trains continues through the years, there is a very good chance you will eventually have enough cars to make up a solid train...so here I am, a long way from that young boy who marveled at the picture of the solid train of cattle cars...and various and sundry solid trains are a fact of life on my railroad empire.

   Here are five of them - solid consists of boxcars, loaded flatcars, and reefers. They are also solid tinplate and solid Marx.

Solid_Marx_1red

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Long time between drinks for me lately !

But finally scored something shareworthy

One of these has been on my "lookout for " list for a long time , and found via a casual conversation with a friend who piped up with " I have something odd ? been in the cupboard for years , I think my dad found it ages ago"

When I saw it I was a tad " Shut your mouth ! " LOL!!! .... It was something I found one of ,many years ago, and was ghosted by the seller on a trading site , and had not seen another one since .

Its a diecast handcar , from the early 1950's , made by DCMT in England ( the casting firm for Crescent models) and uses the body from their Harry Hayseed Tricky Tractor atop an O gauge size handcar platform ... The body is linked via crankshaft to the axle and he rocks back and forth as it rolls along ... I have seen mention of it as " The Harry Hayseed Tricky Track Van " but have not been able to find much about it , and not even seen it advertised or catalogued . It has couplings to connect to "Something" but I know not what ? Possibly it could have been meant to be dragged by the Harry Hayseed Tractor, but given the violent back and forth of it with rotation in use , I cant see how it would have worked ?

But another missing hole in the collection is now filled

Is this thread dying ???   For me it is a great one and always great to look at tinplate pictures.

Not really tinplate, more brass plate, a great loco made by RV Zero in France of one of the last steam engine in service on tracks in the suburbs of Paris, a 141 TB locotender made to drive trains in forward and reverse with a special car at the opposite side of the train to control.  The real one is still preserved and run excursion trains in summer.

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Merry Christmas everyone, Daniel

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