The week crept up fast after the holiday. Let's get the tinplate started and let's see yours! 
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That's superb Fred... the Riviera Express never looked so good!
d
Shiny trains!
Look ma, no paint!
Have a great weekend!
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Hojack! Wow, beautiful shiny trains. Beautiful, just beautiful!
We're off to a great start.
Some of my favorite trains come from the 1927 American Flyer catalog. They were early additions to the collection too.
The Oriental Limited
The Bluebird
The Jeffersonian
And let's not forget The Broadway Limited
Have a great tinplate weekend.
Greg
Beautiful stuff Guy's!! Keep them coming everyone!
Nothing new for me so I'll post another older set of photos, one of my favorite sets, a 145W from 1940 on the 313 bridge. As always, I apologize for the clutter on the layout.
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Some "modern" tinplate pieces from the collection,
A german Hehr reproduction of a Marklin PLM engine, a very high quality model, even better running than the old original one. Manufactured around 20 years ago.
A Darstaed german boggie coach in Marklin style. Those cars were made in Switzerland fro Marcel Darphin who solded them under the Darstaed name.
ACE from Great Britain, the Golden Plover with matching cars.
A great tinplate model of the swiss krokodyle loco made by Keyser in Switzerland in 1950s
And the french inspection car, the famous Citroën 2 HP made by AS, the french manufacturer. One original model as existed in service but as unfortunately disapeared.
More to come next week end....
Daniel
France.
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Chris Lonero posted:The week crept up fast after the holiday. Let's get the tinplate started and let's see yours!
looks fantastic!!!
My first 200 series freight car arrived ahead of schedule- the start of the soon-to-be "crayon box" consist. To be pulled by my 408E. This line of trains will eventually run on a 5.5" wide shelf , hugging the wall at 42" from the floor, for a total length of 28 feet. Positioned directly behind the layout table.
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From the archives...a baby Girard set:
Sometimes those Wood colors are just a hair off...
PD
no apologies needed Dennis...that looks great!!
a couple of Marx. Uncle Jim's/Dad's CV
Tank car and box I got from Papa Steve
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Wow, this is amazing. I want to write note of appreciation for every post so far. Everybody is collecting and running tinplate in different ways and it's all great, what cool pictures. Feels like Christmas morning. Thank you!
david
pd posted:From the archives...a baby Girard set:
Sometimes those Wood colors are just a hair off...
PD
a baby Girard set? There is more than one?
Thanks to a little--ok a lot of--help from my friends, my layout is taking shape. Here's my first entry: my JAD Lines Standard Gauge Hiawatha!!
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Carey TeaRose posted:pd posted:From the archives...a baby Girard set:
Sometimes those Wood colors are just a hair off...
PD
a baby Girard set? There is more than one?
Carey TeaRose,
I love your thirst for knowledge--keep the questions coming!!
The term "Girard" comes from the 2-tone green colors of that train; One of the prized sets of the pre-war era for Lionel collectors is a Standard Gauge passenger set made up of 3 coaches in this color scheme, headed by either a black or gray 392E steamer. The coaches were also cataloged with a 9E electric in the same 2-tone green colors. The coaches were named "Liberty Bell," "Coral Isle," and "Stephen Girard." While the set was sold in the catalog as the "Broadway Limited" in the 30's, most prewar collectors refer to it as the "Stephen Girard" set or "Girard Set" for short. Here it is--2nd shelf up. 
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Carey TeaRose posted:a baby Girard set? There is more than one?
Don't put two Girard sets on adjoining shelves, you'll get baby Girard sets!
Keep in mind that many of the names for sets - "Girard Set", "State Set"... were not used by the original manufacturer. Collectors came up with these names because they were more descriptive and other collectors would know what you were talking about. Why the Girard set got named after the Stephen Girard car in that set and not after the Liberty Bell car in the same set, is just arbitrary.
There is only one "Stephen Girard" set per se; the term was coined by collectors to refer to the Standard Gauge two-tone green set of the 424 series cars and the matching 9e locomotive. The lighter shade of green used on this set is called "Stephen Girard Green", again, by collectors, Lionel did not use this term. Bluecomet400's set would also be called a Girard set, but with a modifier to indicate that it is headed by the 392 instead of the Girard 9e.
The State sets - both the green and brown versions of the 381 with the big 412 series cars - also used distinctive shades of paint. A smaller Lionel set, still in Standard Gauge, using the 318 loco and the little 309 series cars also appeared in the two-tone brown paint that was used for the brown State set. So, collectors refer to this smaller set as the "Baby State Set".
pd's use of the term "baby Girard set" for his O Gauge set which he repainted in Girard colors is purely tongue-in-cheek; he's making a tinplater's inside joke, riffing off the name for the Standard Gauge set in those colors and the use of 'baby' originally for the smaller state set.
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Stephen Girard lived in Philadelphia and was one of the wealthiest men in America. The collector naming of the set made it easily identifiable. Lionel also never used the name "State Cars" collectors did this because of the names of the cars. State sets were mostly named "Transcontinental Limited" one green set was named "Olympian" and one with a 400E was called "20th Century Limited".
Pulled out some track for floor running the other day, took some photos of the 258, with its lovely firebox light, and it's consist. Forgot the tender doesn't like 027 curves though.
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hojack posted:Carey TeaRose posted:a baby Girard set? There is more than one?
Don't put two Girard sets on adjoining shelves, you'll get baby Girard sets!
Keep in mind that many of the names for sets - "Girard Set", "State Set"... were not used by the original manufacturer. Collectors came up with these names because they were more descriptive and other collectors would know what you were talking about. Why the Girard set got named after the Stephen Girard car in that set and not after the Liberty Bell car in the same set, is just arbitrary.
There is only one "Stephen Girard" set per se; the term was coined by collectors to refer to the Standard Gauge two-tone green set of the 424 series cars and the matching 9e locomotive. The lighter shade of green used on this set is called "Stephen Girard Green", again, by collectors, Lionel did not use this term. Bluecomet400's set would also be called a Girard set, but with a modifier to indicate that it is headed by the 392 instead of the Girard 9e.
The State sets - both the green and brown versions of the 381 with the big 412 series cars - also used distinctive shades of paint. A smaller Lionel set, still in Standard Gauge, using the 318 loco and the little 309 series cars also appeared in the two-tone brown paint that was used for the brown State set. So, collectors refer to this smaller set as the "Baby State Set".
pd's use of the term "baby Girard set" for his O Gauge set which he repainted in Girard colors is purely tongue-in-cheek; he's making a tinplater's inside joke, riffing off the name for the Standard Gauge set in those colors and the use of 'baby' originally for the smaller state set.
d
Totally tongue-in-cheek...I picked up the 248 many years ago at a local meet. Someone had done a brilliant job of repainting it in the Girard color combination, most likely to match with the 607/608 coaches Lionel made in those colors. The early 529/530 or 629/630 coaches pictured here were eBay purchases...someone had stripped them down to bare metal and soldered them back together. I had some Charles Wood colors and with some careful masking gave them a shot, but the tint is just a bit off from the original. Bought some window glazing, self-adhesive decals, new wheels, axles and couplers and here you go:
Fun project...even matches the curtains.
PD
A couple of weeks ago, I had the pleasure of visiting Steve "Papa" Eastman. Even though we have known each other for years via the internet and phone, we live halfway across the country from each other so this was the first time I have had the pleasure of meeting him in person. It was great to visit with Steve and see his tinplate collection. We also had a bit of a clockwork train "interchange" and this little gem followed me home:
Most of the electric versions of the Marx CP are pretty common, but the windup versions are very hard to find. This one needed some TLC in the form of sheet metal work, and also needed a different motor. The motor I put in it is the correct vintage, except it should be a reversing windup instead of a forward-only sparker. I'll keep my eye open for a correct motor... I'm sure one will eventually show up. In the meantime, the shape of the brake lever is the only clue that it has the wrong motor in it. I'm glad to have this one running around the layout.
My thanks to Steve for being a gracious host, as well as for the Marx 3000!
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love to have a chance to meet you guys. last time I was out his way, I stopped by Milepost 38, and when I inquired if Steve was working I heard the back door slamming shut....
that wind up looks great!
Some new folks (two travelers and four men a-workin' for the railroad) joined the people on my layout today. The MTH 11-90041 repro set of Lionel 550. Eventually, all will get their skin tones repainted.
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hojack posted:Shiny trains!
Look ma, no paint!
Have a great weekend!
d
okay Hojack, what are these shine trains sets please?? Did I Spy with my little eyes the MTH Millennium GOLD President's Special Contemporary set?
Carey TeaRose posted:hojack posted:Shiny trains!
Look ma, no paint!
Have a great weekend!
d
okay Hojack, what are these shine trains sets please?? Did I Spy with my little eyes the MTH Millennium GOLD President's Special Contemporary set?
I saw a MTH Prosperity Special (I have the engine and need the cars), an American Flyer chrome Mayflower and a chrome MTH Ives 1134 with black and chrome cars. I love these!
George
Carey,
Great job on the people!
El Classico,
Love the 258!
PCRR/Dave
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Carey TeaRose posted:Chris Lonero posted:The week crept up fast after the holiday. Let's get the tinplate started and let's see yours!
looks fantastic!!!
Thanks Carey. By the way this is a photo of my new Pride Lines "Ives" station. You were absolutely right. It is a PITA! to put together! 
The American Flyer Sesqui-Centennial passes by Hallmark.
Steve
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George S posted:Carey TeaRose posted: okay Hojack, what are these shine trains sets please?? Did I Spy with my little eyes the MTH Millennium GOLD President's Special Contemporary set?I saw a MTH Prosperity Special (I have the engine and need the cars), an American Flyer chrome Mayflower and a chrome MTH Ives 1134 with black and chrome cars. I love these!
George
Yup, those four; also a Lionel Classics brass #7 pulling three brass and nickle day coaches made by Jim Cohen (I have Jim Cohen's #7 but it's not running); and also at the end, a Jim Cohen nickle reproduction of an Ives 1764 New Haven loco coming out of the round house.
I'm loving the layout pictures this weekend, some really appealing tinplate setups! I like your use of the tinplate dollhouses Carey, they are a good fit.
Steve, I've never seen a Marx freight shed with red roof, always green. Story?
... and Greg, thanks for the pictures of the American Flyer sets along with their catalog entries – nice presentation, Flyer prewar O Gauge is great stuff.
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hojack posted:Steve, I've never seen a Marx freight shed with red roof, always green. Story?
Dave, I've only seen a 3-4 in my years of watching Marx. If you will notice, even the walls are a different color. They go for quite a bit of $. I still do not know what the correct make up is of the playset. I do know it came with the much larger figures, about 3" which I have. It should have come with tin trucks, not the normal plastic ones, but I have yet to see what they look like. Playset Magazine had told me they planned on doing an article on the set, but have decided not to for now, so the search for info continues.
Steve
Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:I still do not know what the correct make up is of the playset.
Thanks Steve, it really looks unique in the alternate color scheme.
I have seen them sold with an assortment of plastic freight - crates, barrels, etc. and also the plastic people and trucks, but don't know how authentic that combination is.
d
As normal with Marx, there were variations due to various retailers want theirs to be different or wanting to save a few pennies. Here is a good representation of what would be with a green roof terminal.
Steve
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The Ives 701 crawls past a derelict CMC Steamer.
Steve
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Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:The Ives 701 crawls past a derelict CMC Steamer.
... and an Ives watertower, having just come through the Ives bridge. I like the direction your layout is taking Steve! Don't you love the way those old 3241's growl?
david
CMC?
