TMMC LASH-UP WITH ABBA F3s - NEED HELP

Question No. 1: Which are you using to attempt the programming: a Cab-1/Base-1, Cab-1L/Base-1L, or a Cab-2/Base-2?

Mike

John-

After programming were the run/program switches set back to run?

Also please provide the model number(s) for the ABBA set.

-John

CAB 2, base 2. Programmed engines individually in program mode & they run fine. When making lash-up power is on but in run mode obviously.

Forgot, but F-3's are EL RS 5.0, Cat. #24534 ABA & 24538 Powered "B"

John-

I looked at the manual for the set (Link Here); the procedure on pages 27-28 is correct. I would disregard the information on page 21, as using the "TR + 9" combination will not work unless your lash-up ID is 9.

By any chance could the locomotives be part of another lashup? Also did you try resetting each locomotive?

-John

Thanks, remember, I am using the Cab 2. Lash-up is not prat of another lash-up. This is my buddies & he has no trains created & would not know how to do it as he is relatively new to using a remote so I am trying to set it us for him. Like I mentioned, I don several lash-ups with Legacy engines & never had a problem, but never did one with TMMC engines. I'm really puzzled & frustrated with this one as it should work & Lionel is telling me it should work. Can't figure out if I've missed a step somewhere as remote says train created & ready to run, but nothing. Don't know who else to talk to. Even Ryan Kunkle told me it should work, but he has no engines there to test it himself, so I'm screwed in that respect.

You could just program all the locomotives with the same ID number and be done with it. That way you would not have to build a train and go through all that fuss.

Twice when using my CAB2  to create a lash up of TMCC engines, I have messed up by forgetting that TMCC only allows you to use train numbers 1 - 9, not double digits. So in one case using the number “84” produced no response from the set at all. Maybe you have fallen foul of this too?

I did what RoyBoy (RadioRoy) did and programmed all the locomotives with the same ID number. This was the only way to get a tmcc lashup to work for me on a cab2.

@Rudolph Palermo posted:

I did what RoyBoy (RadioRoy) did and programmed all the locomotives with the same ID number. This was the only way to get a tmcc lashup to work for me on a cab2.

The simple solutions are always the best - except that in this situation, if the addresses are all the same (A) your trailing unit might not have the correct lighting for the MU, and (B), more importantly, if powered it may pull in the wrong direction!

I think that is what I will end up doing. Program them all the same number. The 2nd power unit is a "B" unit so there wouldn't be a problem with it going the wrong direction. Strange though that Lionel would tell me the lash-up should work. Glad I'm not the only one that can't get this to work. Thanks for all the help/comments.     

While the TMCC lashup has to be 1-9, I do believe while programming them you have to use a leading zero.  01, 02, etc.

Great Question, I have an older TMCC B&O F3 diesel set and I will try programming them today, They run great but I want the directional lighting to work as well as the front and rear couplers to work properly. I have a powered A, powered B, dummy A. I will use a number between 1 and 9. Let’s figure this out. Happy Railroading Everyone

The correct resolution here is that (TMCC) train numbers can only be 1-9. The units themselves can be double digits, but the lash-up ID itself must be a single digit. Directional lighting won't function correctly if you give them the same ID.

Example with my TMCC Santa Fe ABBA F3s - unique IDs are 20, 21, 22, 23

TR 1 (build) - add 20, 21, 22, 23 ( reverse the DIR on 23), hit build. Lights should flash and a horn sound. Address TR1 and start it up and this should work for you.

@BNSF-MATT, Wow, I did as you said, I took my B&O ABA, 6-14565 AA set, Powered B  6-24519 (2003 Volume 2 Catalog), gave each a double digit ID #, 16-17-18, then with my Cab 2 remote made up TR-7, and when I press TR-7 it all starts up as a train and I have directional lighting, and front and rear couplers…. Thank you very much. Happy Railroading Everyone

@leapinlarry posted:

@BNSF-MATT, Wow, I did as you said

Awesome, glad to hear Larry!

@LIONEL, Simply give each of your units an ID#, and do them with the cab2 and do all of the TMCC functions, then, using your Cab2 remote make certain there are no other engines with those ID#’s, then do as @BNSF-MATT suggests. and you will be successful. Now, I’m not sure anyone notices that the Cab1L actually gives one great control of their trains, actually allows for slower starts and consistent running. Happy Railroading Everyone

So it sounds like if I use a number higher than 9 for the TR, it will not work. The remote said lash-up successful & ready to run but no light flashing or horn blowing. Will try with TR between 1 & 9. This is for my buddy, but I have a B & O like Larry & would like to make a lash-up for that one. Will update my results after I try changing the number. Thanks everyone. 

I'll be dam. Worked like a charm when I set it to TR 1. Can't believe Lionel never told me that. Learn something new everyday. Thanks everybody for your help.

@LIONEL, We all learn something new every day, @BNSF-MATT helped out a lot indicating using 1-9 for the TR number on TMCC engines/locomotives. Wow.