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Im in the process of building an O-27 layout.

 

O-27 was chosen for 3 reasons.  1)  I already have some track and a train, 2) The limited space available. 3) low cost.

 

I watched some movies about building O-scale layouts with lots of tips and tricks.  

 

One of them was to use foam board for the road bed and bevel the sides at a 45deg angle.

 

To make O-27 look better, I found some spray-paint called "flec-stone" to paint the cut foam road bed to look like rock. 

 

I also printed out an image of track with ties and affixed it to the road bed under the track.

 

Here is a picture of the result on my 1st attempt. I think i need to bevel the edges more (30deg?) and use thinner foam. (1/4").

 

 

 

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Sure, But first I want to suggest you go to Dennis Brennan's site:

 

http://www.brennansmodelrr.com/store/index.php

 

Look for "Realistic Modeling for Toy Trains, A High Rail guide."  He has written a very good booklet on track weathering and ballasting plus lots of other scenery information.  

 

You can also use the advanced search engine and find multiple posts about O27 track.  I have posted about upgrading my toy train layout and the link is below.

 

https://ogrforum.com/t...g-a-toy-train-layout

 

To answer your question I use 3R Plastics for the ties:

 

http://3r-plastics.com/

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Thank you J White and Wood (sounds like a legal team).   

 

Looks a lot easier to make O-27 look great than I thought.

 

I had considered painting the center-rail black and the outer rails a rust brown (except for the tops as I'm not adding functional catenary wires to the layout!). 

 

Im still debating the ballast issue and how to secure it and what foundation to use under it.

 

Don't think I can afford cork, foam may have to be the foundation for now. 

 

Paul

 

 

 

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Hello Paul • I have done the same thing, spray painted the road bed gray.• The biggest plus is no ballast being caught up into engines and it is easy to change your layout. If you use to much glue on the ballast, it can turn to concrete. My layout is a toy train layout and not scale

     Below are photos of the track on my layout. K-Line Shadow Rail & cork bed sprayed gray.

  Click photos to enlarge.

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Nice.  So foam painted with flec-stone? Hmmmm.  Has some advantages. Again, mine is an O-27 small layout. NTS. (not to scale) So this sounds like a good solution since I may want to expand it with a 4'x6' "wing" for a small rail yard and town scene.

 

The initial 4x8 layout is going to be a woodland scene https://ogrforum.com/t...78#39863555044029778

 

This is the possible expansion...

 

https://ogrforum.com/t...41#39863555128184541

I am going to be building my layout in O27. I think it has a more realistic rail height and because the ties are almost flat, the cost of Brenan's Ballast is minimized, because less of it is needed than with standard O tubular, or Gargraves, etc...

 

I plan to use Homasote roadbed from Cascade Rail Supply, which will really quiet down the noise. The extra ties from 3R Plastics are economical and very quiet as well.

Originally Posted by Edstrains:

I am going to be building my layout in O27. I think it has a more realistic rail height and because the ties are almost flat, the cost of Brenan's Ballast is minimized, because less of it is needed than with standard O tubular, or Gargraves, etc...

 

I plan to use Homasote roadbed from Cascade Rail Supply, which will really quiet down the noise. The extra ties from 3R Plastics are economical and very quiet as well.

Good luck; post photos; and let us know how it works out.

Originally Posted by Paul_Smith:

Thank you J White and Wood (sounds like a legal team).   

 

Looks a lot easier to make O-27 look great than I thought.

 

I had considered painting the center-rail black and the outer rails a rust brown (except for the tops as I'm not adding functional catenary wires to the layout!). 

 

Im still debating the ballast issue and how to secure it and what foundation to use under it.

 

Don't think I can afford cork, foam may have to be the foundation for now. 

 

Paul

 

 

 

I have both traditional tubular 0 and 027 scale track on the majority of my layout.  Because 0 scale track is high in height and its ties not that authentic, I decided to use fish tank gravel--a cheaper alternative even if not totally in scale.  As a result I really didn't have to use a roadbed, brushing the stone up to the rail's height to give the illusion of a road bed (See attached photo).  Stones also filled in the spaces between the ties.  I used double-faced tape on the bottom, poured the stones and then some glue/water to seal the top.  The rails held the stones poured inside the track.  On 027, I don't think you could pour the stones inside because of the lower height--I used kitty litter glued to the tape which worked fine but hesitated to use any inside the rails because of my fear of it getting up into the housing of the engine.   BTW, I covered the entire platform with cork which cut down the vibration and sound.

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Midwest Products is a very good source for O gauge road bead.  With a disk/belt sander you can fit pieces as needed.

I use Masonite for model building bases which matches well to the cork road base. Note that the flex of the cork easily works the track curves. I fabricate the track work and then on final attachment to the layout, slide the cork under the track, hold it in place as the track is screwed down/holding the cork.   Final application of white glue mix and ballast holds all in place.

Cork fitted to the track and switch motors as needed.

 

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I just checked the prices at Midwest Products.  $58 for 36" of cork road bed? Not going to happen.  Might as well have used RealTrax or FasTrack.  This project has to be done on a somewhat tight budget or the CFO (my wife) will call a stock-holders meeting and I will be fired from the position of CEO of the railroad.    So I will have to use homosote or foam and cut it myself.

 

 

 

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Thanks Big Mike, I didn't see the 25 pieces line (was above the text).

 

I've been writing programming code here at work all morning and I think my eyes need a rest. LOL

 

 

$58 for 75 feet, well that makes it a lot more affordable.  If I paint it with the flec-stone then it will look really good and no messing with gravel ballast.  

 

Looking at my plan, their are about 20 pieces of track that are not in tunnels or on bridges and 5 turnouts.  That's less than 30 linear feet of roadbed. 

 

Paul Smith

Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of the spare bedroom railroad...

 

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I do something similar to OP's technique, but using homasote rather than foam:

 

Track 2

 

After cookie-cutting with a bevelled saber-saw, I paint the whole thing with white glue and sprinkle on ballast:

 

Track 3

 

This makes it very easy to add subtle grades that I turn into rolling terrain during landscaping.  This avoids the "dead-flat platform" look.

 

Track 4

 

When landscaping, I add more ballast and tie it all in with the ground cover:

 

Track 1

 

 

 

Track 5

 

The changes in relief are barely noticeable, but I think they add a lot to the overall effect.

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Avanti posted:

I do something similar to OP's technique, but using homasote rather than foam:

 

Track 2

 

After cookie-cutting with a bevelled saber-saw, I paint the whole thing with white glue and sprinkle on ballast:

 

Track 3

 

This makes it very easy to add subtle grades that I turn into rolling terrain during landscaping.  This avoids the "dead-flat platform" look.

 

Track 4

 

When landscaping, I add more ballast and tie it all in with the ground cover:

 

Track 1

 

 

 

Track 5

 

The changes in relief are barely noticeable, but I think they add a lot to the overall effect.

Could you give more detail on the homasote Avanti? Like how wide you cut the sections and what degree you use when beveling the edges. I really like this idea a lot and would like to incorporate it into building my layout. Thanks

 

John

Well, I'm afraid that work was done a long time ago, so I forget the details. Sorry.

The pieces are about 3.5" wide. No idea what the bevel angle was. The best way to do it is to get a sheet of Homasote and lay out your track on it. Then you can just trace the pattern cookie-cutter style. That way, you will get a precise pattern.

Good luck with your project. Please keep us updated.

Paul I see your original post was from last year and you got a lot of good replies  so you've probably got your track laid by now but I like your original idea.  The picture of the ties looked pretty good.  An improvement would have been to use a mat cutter to get a smoother bevel cut.  And one of the stone texture spray paints available from Krylon and Rustoleum.

Ironically, no work has been done on the layout due to a medical issue.  I experienced a very bad flare up of Rheumatoid Arthritis in my hands where I could not grip things or use tools,  so work was stopped on the layout.  

Now, over a year later, the specialist docs at the VA found a drug regime that is finally working and I have the use of my hands back.  

The 4'x8' table has been re-assembled and some more track acquired after test fitting the layout revealed that there were some clearance issues that SCARM does not show.  

As for road bead, I was thinking of using the Woodland Scenics roadbed as its not that expensive, and maybe paint it with the flec-stone paint instead of using ballast.  I am going to buy a bag of 300 of those add-on RR ties to make my O-27 track look better.

Paul


    

Sorry to hear about the RA, glad the VA got it worked out for you.  I still like your cross-tie image idea.  seems like a quick and easy solution.  I too have 0-27 track. I once bought a bag of the plastic K-line ties meant for ) gauge, they were too high for the 0-27 but I also didn't really care for the appearance.  They were just too chunky.  PRRFAN's look pretty good with the ballast I never bother to see if ballasting change my idea of the appearance.

User WOOD above posted some pics of the 3R plastics RR ties on O-27.  With the ballast it looks good. So I may take that route.

Early on I looked at RealTrax, ScaleTrax from MTH, Lionel Fastrack, and some others, but since the prices to just replace all the track and turnouts exceeds the total projected cost of the complete O-27 layout (with lots of scenery) by about 300%.  So that is a no sale to the CFO (my wife).

I finally have a weekend somewhat free so I can work on getting the track in place on temp supports to see is there are any track clearance issues.  Also want to test my engine pulling a consist of about 6 cars up a 4% grade. 

Paul

 

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