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I have Cab-1 TMCC and a Legacy GP9. I'm considering purchasing another GP9 and lash them to form a "train".

Also, I'd like to have them lashed long hood to long hood, so that the "train" can always be considered going forward regardless of the direction (I realize that a cab engineer will be looking the wrong direction at all times).

 

Are there any issues arranging them in this fashion with a Cab-1 contoller?

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Originally Posted by PAUL ROMANO:

With Cab 1 I assign all the engines the same ID number. The rear engine is programed to start in reverse. It is not the way the TMCC book has lash ups but I've never had a problem. Good luck. 

 

Paul Romano

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If the engine I currently have is engine "4", are you saying when I get the other engine, number it engine "4" also, and MU them and run them as "engine 4". And do nothing to program them as a "train" on my Cab-1? 

Last edited by TM Terry

 Come on ,get the book out and find out how to  create a lash-up using the cab-1..unless you want double horns, couplers. (TAS) Train America studios used to have neat web site where you could practice creating lash-ups.... unfortunately they're gone. must be something out there on the web.

 

Where's Bob B... when you need him..

Originally Posted by Gregg:

Lash-ups is what we make in toy train land unless you want to re-write all the instruction manuals.    I'm a retired Conductor too, I should know better

 


I sure wish you folks would LEARN HOW TO POST LINKS!!!

 

Thanks Gregg,

I successfully lashed L&N (GP9's) #504 and #525, calling it TR5 (for the first number of the lead engine road number). From here I'll make a few more lash-ups with the remaining two diesels in various combinations of two to four engines. One is Seaboard (RS11) #102.

Originally Posted by Ffffreddd:
How do you program an engine to startup in reverse?
Thought you could only do that by following l****p instructions to make up an MU.

 

Not that I am anywhere close to an expert... I went through the tutorial link that Gregg posted on four occasions. When my L&N #525 arrived I followed the instructions making #504 the lead engine and #525 the rear facing trailing engine. (Making a train of two GP9's with long hoods connected) When you get to the engine facing a reverse direction than the leading engine, there is a command in the programming sequence where "R" is pressed. 

 

If this isn't what you're asking, please disregard.

There was a TMCC Manual that came with the original Command Base and Cab 1 controller sets. The complete guide to command control   Click on the underlined phrase to access. Advanced operating techniques details programming of each engine in the consist.  Pages  22 and 23. 
(1.) Select a Train number  1 through 9.  Example Train(TR) 5.

(2.) All Engines on the powered track facing the direction you want.
(2a.) All in the Forward operating mode. I usually note the head light as an indication of the direction. Even if you want  the unit/locomotive to be facing backwards.
(2b.)  One front unit, One rear unit, all other engines are added as middle units.

(3.) Front engine facing forward.  Keep in mind the example: using train #5.  Press the following buttons.
TR  5  (Eng)  (??) (F) Set. A Horn whistle should blow.


(4.) Middle engine facing forward.
TR  5  (Eng)  (??)  Set   A  horn  whistle should blow.
(4a.)  Middle engine facing backward.
TR  5  (Eng)   (??)  (Dir)  Set  A horn whistle should blow.


(5.)   Rear engine facing forward.
TR  5  (Eng)   (??) (R) Set  A horn whistle should blow.
(5a.)  Rear engine facing backward.
TR 5 (Eng) (??)  (R) (Dir)  Set  A horn whistle should blow.

(6.)  Operate consist.  Press TR 5  Throttle up. and operate as a single  unit/locomotive.

(7.)Operation Checks.
        (1.)  Check all wheel movement for the correct direction.
        (2.)  Only the front headlight should operate as the consist moves forward all other headlights are off.
        (3.)  Only the rear headlight should operate as the consist moves backward, all other headlights are off.
        (4.)  Front coupler button on the Cab1 should only operate the Front coupler of the consist.
        (5.)  Rear coupler button on the Cab1 should only operate the Rear coupler of the consist.
        (6.)  Note that TMCC units with out speed control seem to operate best if all are set to the same momentum (page 27 of the document linked above).
        (7.)  Observe coupler slack/tension.  A good indication of how each unit is operating in the consist.
        (8.)  When done with the consist assign each unit to TR 0 It is interest to see what happens when you don't do this.
Have Fun
Mike

       

Last edited by Mike CT
I was not asking how to program am MU with the last engine facing backwards.
That is the only way that I know how.

The poster was implying that he set all the engine IDs to 1 and then programmed the rear to start in reverse.
He did not indicate that he  programmed a lashup with both engines IDed as #1.
I would think that would cause all kinds of issues with the lights, couplers and direction.
Originally Posted by Ffffreddd:
I was not asking how to program am MU with the last engine facing backwards.
That is the only way that I know how.

The poster was implying that he set all the engine IDs to 1 and then programmed the rear to start in reverse.
He did not indicate that he  programmed a lashup with both engines IDed as #1.
I would think that would cause all kinds of issues with the lights, couplers and direction. 
It's his railroad he can do what ever he wants.   Additional information is available We probably had this discussion 10 to 12 years ago.

 

Last edited by Mike CT
Originally Posted by Ffffreddd:
Never mind.
I think you do not understand my question.
Anyone else?
Is it possible to program an individual engine to start up in reverse?
One of the effects of programming an engine facing backwards in a consist  is actually (2) things, (1.) It will start up backwards, and (2.) the directional lighting is backwards when removed from the consist.  Primary reason to assign the Engine/locomotive to TR0 when the consist is dismantled.  
(5a.)  Rear engine facing backward.
TR 5 (Eng) (??) (R) (Dir)   Set  A horn whistle should blow.  Programming will probably disable the one coupler.  

 

Last edited by Mike CT
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