The last 6 weeks, I was in Omsk / Siberia for work. Here a few pictures from the Goods Station.
Greetings
Arne
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очень хорошо, cпасибо!
Great pictures!
Interesting pics, thanks!
Peter
I'm surprised you were not arrested for taking those pictures.
Thanks for the great pics!
Спасибо за взгляд изнутри, товарищ! Это интересно посмотреть, поезда и в других странах.
Ace posted:Спасибо за взгляд изнутри, товарищ! Это интересно посмотреть, поезда и в других странах.
Thanks for looking inside , comrade ! It is interesting to see the trains in other countries.
Maybe - Gary
Funny how odd trains look in different country's
Livesteam1987 posted:Funny how odd trains look in different country's
Bet'cha they say the same about US/Canadian trains.
Rusty
eddie g posted:I'm surprised you were not arrested for taking those pictures.
Eddie,
Arne took these photos in Russia, not in the Soviet Union. Why would he be arrested?
Thanks,
Naveen Rajan
Старые отношения сохраняются. Современная Россия не похожа на старый Советский Союз, когда фотографирование поездов иностранных гостей было запрещено.
Российские поезда выглядят не так "нечетный". Они скопировали много традиционных американских конструкций!
Иногда переводы не совсем то же самое в обоих направлениях.
Very cool photos, Arne. I also was interested in the cold-weather water tower, very necessary there. The first time I visited the USSR in 1983, Yuri Andropov (former KGB head) was the premier, and photos of railroads were prohibited. However, I got to see a good amount of railroad operations, and took the overnight Red Star Express from Moscow to Leningrad. When I returned in 1992, things were changing. There are a lot of Russian railroad videos on Youtube. Its interesting that they stayed with the 5 foot gauge, but then they didn't want the Germans or the Chinese to just roll in on their trains without being invited.
Great pictures. Thank you.
They have a separate gauge because they didn't want the Germans rolling in on them unannounced. The gauge was set in the 1800's and the 20th century certainly proved them right. If you want to think about an alternate history, think about what might have been if their trains were the same gauge as German trains.
My understanding is that the Siberian railroad is electrified all the way from Moscow to the Pacific. Given the distance and climate, one can understand the difficulty of maintaining supplies. You also have to think about how we are unable to maintain reliable winter service for something as simple as commuter trains here in the Northeast and the Russians maintain thousands of miles of railroads in Siberia. Gulags or not, its way ahead of us.
Gerry
Милые фотографии Nice Photos. Gotta love Google Translator.
naveenrajan posted:eddie g posted:I'm surprised you were not arrested for taking those pictures.
Arne took these photos in Russia, not in the Soviet Union. Why would he be arrested?
Because there are plenty of places in Russia where you could be arrested for taking photos of anything they deem to be sensitive in any way. We're about as friendly with Russia as we were before the end of WW2; Allied in many ways, yet not in others.
Yes, it's still that way for some stuff. Yes, it's unlikely taking photos of trains, but you just never know.
p51 posted:naveenrajan posted:eddie g posted:I'm surprised you were not arrested for taking those pictures.
Arne took these photos in Russia, not in the Soviet Union. Why would he be arrested?
Because there are plenty of places in Russia where you could be arrested for taking photos of anything they deem to be sensitive in any way. We're about as friendly with Russia as we were before the end of WW2; Allied in many ways, yet not in others.
Yes, it's still that way for some stuff. Yes, it's unlikely taking photos of trains, but you just never know.
P51,
That is an interesting point. I am not a US citizen & I failed to realize the potential problems with carrying a US passport in some other parts of the world.
But I have read on these forums in the last few years about overzealous law-enforcement personnel even in the US who harass railfans without just cause. So there is a chance of getting into trouble for photographing trains in many countries, not just in Russia.
These are just my opinion,
Thanks,
Naveen Rajan
Restrictions on railway photography depend on the time and place and circumstances. I can recall four incidents where security guards told me not to take photos of public transit facilities:
Seattle bus tunnel 6-2002 (not so long after 9-11-2001)
Perth Western Australia downtown railway station (a very new modern facility) 2009
Thornlie (Perth) suburban railway station (a very new modern facility) 2009
Honolulu airport views from parking garage 2009
In all cases I told the guards I was an American citizen and a tourist who only wanted the photos for my own interest. In most cases they were understanding and maybe slightly apologetic, but they had standing orders. I always consider it prudent to be discrete about taking photos in public places, so that other people don't get uncomfortable.
Sometimes I just waited until the guards left, then took my photos expediently and didn't hang around. What the heck, these are public places and now Google Earth shows everything.
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Great pictures,did you get a chance to ride any trains there.
Mikey
Thanks for sharing, my grandfather was from Soviet Union.
I am surprised that they don't run "spine" trains of containers to Poland, and convert to 4'81/2" cars there. To me, that would bypass a long water transport.
Dominic Mazoch posted:I am surprised that they don't run "spine" trains of containers to Poland, and convert to 4'81/2" cars there. To me, that would bypass a long water transport.
They do.
These are just my opinion,
Thanks,
Naveen Rajan
