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TVRM has all those railroads surrounding it, yet it is only able to use the line to Summerville. Well, a CSX line goes near TVRM and we all know CSX has a steam ban. TVRM connects to NS but they stopped hosting excursions with TVRM and others. Who owns the line to Summerville? Does TVRM have guaranteed permission to use the line to Summerville indefinitely? Guess the interchange track at Grand Junction with NS won’t see much use now. Since all lines in Chattanooga are freight only since 1970, the NS excursions with TVRM were a very rare opportunity to ride those freight only lines. Is there a reason why steam can’t operate on TVRM’s Etowah line? Only way there is CSX and they won’t touch a steam locomotive unless it’s transported on a flat car?

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The line to Summerville is owned by the state of Georgia and leased to the Chickamauga and Chatooga (G&W subsidiary) under the requirement that they allow TVRM to run trains. The interchange with NS is still used for our freight customers. Can't run steam on the Hiwassee line because no way to turn or service the locomotive at either end and because there are no maintenance facilities. In addition, the line runs through the Cherokee national forest so the steam locomotive would have to burn oil. Also any steam locomotive would need blind drivers to run around the curves on Hiwassee. 

Will Ebbert posted:

The line to Summerville is owned by the state of Georgia and leased to the Chickamauga and Chatooga (G&W subsidiary) under the requirement that they allow TVRM to run trains. The interchange with NS is still used for our freight customers. Can't run steam on the Hiwassee line because no way to turn or service the locomotive at either end and because there are no maintenance facilities. In addition, the line runs through the Cherokee national forest so the steam locomotive would have to burn oil. Also any steam locomotive would need blind drivers to run around the curves on Hiwassee.

L&N ran 2-8-2s all the time on that line, and there is some photographic evidence of the 4-8-2s running between Etowah and Copperhill.  I suspect anything TVRM has could physically run there.  Can't speak for forest issues, but coal burning steam has operated on the Great Smoky Mountains Railroad several times without issues.  The main issue with steam on the Hiwassee line is that you have to go over CSX to get there.

kgdjpubs posted:
Will Ebbert posted:

The line to Summerville is owned by the state of Georgia and leased to the Chickamauga and Chatooga (G&W subsidiary) under the requirement that they allow TVRM to run trains. The interchange with NS is still used for our freight customers. Can't run steam on the Hiwassee line because no way to turn or service the locomotive at either end and because there are no maintenance facilities. In addition, the line runs through the Cherokee national forest so the steam locomotive would have to burn oil. Also any steam locomotive would need blind drivers to run around the curves on Hiwassee.

L&N ran 2-8-2s all the time on that line, and there is some photographic evidence of the 4-8-2s running between Etowah and Copperhill.  I suspect anything TVRM has could physically run there.  Can't speak for forest issues, but coal burning steam has operated on the Great Smoky Mountains Railroad several times without issues.  The main issue with steam on the Hiwassee line is that you have to go over CSX to get there.

Yes they did run those locomotives, but they had one or two sets of blind drivers on them, much like O scale steamers. None of TVRM's locomotives are so equipped. GSMR now burns oil in the 1702, as is a requirement to run through the national forest. Lack of maintenance facilities are the biggest issue. 

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