Universal Lionchief/Lionchieft Plus Remote first impressions

Captaincog posted:

"...The only time an engine will not add would be some of the start set style engines. So far my Polar Express and Silver Bells engines are not recognized by the remote...."

Yes, thank you for posting this information, Jeff. Surprised it doesn't work for all Lionchief products, (especially their all time best selling  rtr Polar Express set,) since it's advertised as a Lionchief universal remote. That being the case, I wonder why Lionel hasn't published a list of Lionchief sets and engines it's not compatible with so people buying it to use it it with those sets won't then buy it and thus be spared the hassle of returning it along with $$ lost from return shipping costs and possible restocking fees after discovering such incompatibility.

Thanks for the review, Jeff.

These long awaited remotes are here and mine should arrive next week for some post-Christmas running.  

Jeff, Glad to hear that you are pleased with your experience using the Universal Remote. Placed an order for one in December of 2015...received a confirmation call yesterday that mine is being shipped, so next week cannot come fast enough!

I currently have 4 LC+ locomotives and was wondering if each one is placed on the track...and added one at a time using only 3 of the 4? One of the 4 will obviously have to be used with its designated remote. As you already have the operating manual, was looking for your interpretation...

On a Amtrak and heading for Chicago as I write this...never get tired of hearing the horn as we approach every crossing.

Thanks and have a Merry Christmas.

ogaugeguy posted:

Surprising that it doesn't work for all Lionchief products, (especially their all time best selling  rtr set, the Polar Express) since it's advertised as a Lionchief universal remote. 

Well, Lionel did say that some older LC (not +) locomotives would not work.

gunrunnerjohn posted:

ogaugeguy posted:

Surprising that it doesn't work for all Lionchief products, (especially their all time best selling  rtr set, the Polar Express) since it's advertised as a Lionchief universal remote. 

Well, Lionel did say that some older LC (not +) locomotives would not work.

True, John, and not to be argumentative at this festive time of year but "older" is ambiguous considering Lionchief hasn't been around that long. I have no problem with it not working with all Lionchief locomotives, but considering the "newness" of the Lionchief system and even with likely design changes and tweaking during its existence, how many "older" incompatible sets and engines can there be that that it would make too cumbersome and long a list for Lionel to compile and publish? Considering the immense popularity of the Polar Express, at the very least specifically include that as an incompatible set in the disclaimer "some older LC locomotives may not work ".

My suspicion is that the LC electronics changed and the older design isn't compatible.  Short of replacing all those sets, I don't see how Lionel could have solved this issue.  I doubt they considered the need for the universal remote from the original product design.  Also, Lionel actually didn't design the LC electronics I've been told, but rather contracted it to some outside house.

Will not work with all should be noted in large lettering. I had a similar experience with the MTH commander, it does not work on ALL MTH engines either.

Well at least you should still have the original remote to run with. How many LC+ engines do you run all at once? Just curious, not a debate question.

Jim 1939 posted:

Will not work with all should be noted in large lettering. I had a similar experience with the MTH commander, it does not work on ALL MTH engines either.

Well at least you should still have the original remote to run with. How many LC+ engines do you run all at once? Just curious, not a debate question.

Jim, three LC+ (and a Flyerchief which is similar to its LC+ cousin) and nine LC starter sets with four of those LC's being Christmas themed (one made by Lionel for Hallmark) which I frequently run simultaneously during the holidays.

Running multiple engines is easy and almost easier than switching between 2 engines on my legacy Cab2 so having 3 engines on call is nice. Since I run trains at quite a few shows having engines that run with this remote allows me to leave the engine specific remotes at home and reduce the risk of damage.

To be fair Lionel does day that it will not control all Lionchief engines so I figured I would post up what I have found out. I have 2 other engines to dig out and try that are starter set engines. The technology changes so fast as far as what is available I am not surprised. The real question is how often do most users run their holiday themed sets? I suspect the newer designs will likely work fine.

I really feel this remote is a great value and does exactly what it should.

Captaincog posted:

Running multiple engines is easy and almost easier than switching between 2 engines on my legacy Cab2 so having 3 engines on call is nice. Since I run trains at quite a few shows having engines that run with this remote allows me to leave the engine specific remotes at home and reduce the risk of damage.

To be fair Lionel does day that it will not control all Lionchief engines so I figured I would post up what I have found out. I have 2 other engines to dig out and try that are starter set engines. The technology changes so fast as far as what is available I am not surprised. The real question is how often do most users run their holiday themed sets? I suspect the newer designs will likely work fine.

I really feel this remote is a great value and does exactly what it should.

Thanks, Jeff, for your review and effort letting us know which rtr sets won't work with the remote. I'm planning to buy the remote but before I do thanks to your heads up I'll now call Lionel's service department and hopefully they'll be able to tell me whether it will work with the LC rtr sets I want to use it with.  At least that will save me disappointment and aggravation of purchasing it only to discover it won't fit my needs after I've tried using it.

Question on universal remote. When you switch from on engine to another, does the first one continue to run until it is readdressed?

thanks Tstark

tstark posted:

Question on universal remote. When you switch from on engine to another, does the first one continue to run until it is readdressed?

thanks Tstark

Yes, whatever was the last command sent in running speed and direction that engine will continue until you come back to it. It works well in switching between engines which I can see is a primary advantage of this remote.

I cant wait for mine to come in so I can see what does and does not work.  I'm curious, Captaincog, if you know when, about, your polar express was made, and if the remote will work with later versions of the engine.  I have a 10th year edition which from what I understand, had added sound clips over the previous version, and I wonder if it also includes added compatibility for the remote.  I have a second LC polar express that was bought from Hennings a couple months ago, that seems to include all the same sounds as the 10th anniversary version, so I think it uses the same boards/code as well.  

JGL

JohnGaltLine posted:

I cant wait for mine to come in so I can see what does and does not work.  I'm curious, Captaincog, if you know when, about, your polar express was made, and if the remote will work with later versions of the engine.  I have a 10th year edition which from what I understand, had added sound clips over the previous version, and I wonder if it also includes added compatibility for the remote.  I have a second LC polar express that was bought from Hennings a couple months ago, that seems to include all the same sounds as the 10th anniversary version, so I think it uses the same boards/code as well. 

JGL

That one might work. I would like to know since mine is the first edition Lionchief.

Jeff, silly question, but on the engine that didn't add to the remote, it's original  remote was off, correct? The manual says the original remote for the engine must be off.

I think lionel did a good job of letting people know it doest work on early lionel lionchief was on a full page add on there web site

Doug-Sr posted:

I think lionel did a good job of letting people know it doest work on early lionel lionchief was on a full page add on there web site

Lionel needs publish a list of incompatible engines. Just saying it doesn't work on "older" engines is useless and confusing. How is that in any way a good job?

Thanks for posting this and for the discussion on the new remote. Mine is on the way.

Four LC+ locos and counting!

Having a list of the incompatible locomotives would certainly be useful.

This is the first I have heard of it not working with "older" Lion Chief locomotives. I ordered two of these (one for me and one for my son) and I now wonder if I should have ordered one at all. I don't spend my time hanging out on the Lionel website. I don't recall anything in the catalog stating there would be a problem. At this point I have the Area 51 Set, Frosty the Snowman and the Western Union Set. My son has the Patriot U36B, Chessie Mikado and the Southern Pacific Pacific. So have I pre-ordered these just to get stuck with them?

Scott Smith

I stopped my order with trainworld because I'm only running two lionchief steam engines from Lionchief sets. I didn't think it would work with these engines. If I buy Lionchief plus steam, then I'll probably buy one.

We probably could start our own list . May help some.  I have  three sets. The Silver Bell, the Frosty the Snowman and the Hallmark Santa.

I have the remote but not fooled with it yet. So at previously posted (cog)  

the 1st one on the list that's not capable is :

1. Sliver Bell Express.

2.  early Polar Express  added to list 12/30/16

3. Current Polar Express Production 6-30218.      added to list  1/1/17

I will see if we can publish a list of LC product that does not work with the Universal Remote.  Also, the cool thing about this product - it is over the air (OTA) upgradable.  At some point we will release an update that can be sent to the remote to add more loco support.  An iOS and Android app is planned for the process.  It simply connects to the remote and updates the code in about 5 minutes. 

Jon, just curious.  Is it going to be possible to support some of the older stuff that's not on the list, or only new stuff going forward?

Two flyerchief plus and two lionchief plus and love the universal remote, job well done lionel

gunrunnerjohn posted:

Jon, just curious.  Is it going to be possible to support some of the older stuff that's not on the list, or only new stuff going forward?

I believe at some point all older locos will be supported.  At least That is our goal until something shows up!

Great Jon, that would be very cool!

George S posted:

Jeff, silly question, but on the engine that didn't add to the remote, it's original  remote was off, correct? The manual says the original remote for the engine must be off.

Yes, the original remotes were all off on my trials. So far early Polar Express and Silver Bells engines do not respond.

SantaFeFan posted:

I will see if we can publish a list of LC product that does not work with the Universal Remote.  Also, the cool thing about this product - it is over the air (OTA) upgradable.  At some point we will release an update that can be sent to the remote to add more loco support.  An iOS and Android app is planned for the process.  It simply connects to the remote and updates the code in about 5 minutes. 

That explains the Bluetooth part. I like the idea and I really like how no one else can take control of an engine once the remote is loaded locked on and running until the remote is off.

I'm using mine...best thing to come along since "sliced bread"!

Had family here yesterday...handed out the dedicated remotes for each engine to whoever was operating that particlular train. No chance of accidents that way and they all had a great time running them on the layout.

When I am running trains on my own...the Universal Remote will be in my hand!!! And Jon, will definately be looking forward to the future updates...

I can add to the list what I believe is the current production version of the Polar Express.  Mine from the 6-30218 set does not seem to work, which is a little disappointing.  I look forward to future updates, but I'd have liked what I would think is the LionChief engine that has sold the most units to work with the universal remote.  Then again, it would make sense for the polar express to be running an earlier version of the firmware, written back before anyone thought about expanding LionChief's capabilities.  

The remote does work perfectly with a NYC RS3 LionChief engine I have.  It was very easy to pair with the engine and worked as one would expect.  At some point, after further testing and such, I may write my own full-on review, but for the moment I have only two critiques I can mention.   First, the speed control on the universal remote I've used only has the detents on either side of the "stop" position on the dial, and turns smoothly for the rest of the travel in either direction.  This isn't really something I'd say is wrong so much as just different from other LC/LC+ remotes I've used, and it just feels odd to me.  I'd have liked the dial to have the 20 clicks in each direction that I'm used to.    The second thing I find a little annoying is that the plastic used for the body of the remote is translucent, and the light from the LEDs in the remote can be seen through the walls of the body.  There's nothing inherently wrong with this, but it makes the product look cheap and poorly engineered, and it makes the plastic appear to be of less quality than other LC/+ remotes.  I don't know if it actually IS of lower quality, but the light glowing through makes it look that way to me.  

JGL

Folks, Here is the list of supported locos and un-supported locos for the Universal Remote.

Lionel 6-83071 Universal Remote LionChief Locomotive compatability list
January 2, 2017

This document lists Lionel LionChief locomotives which are or are not supported by the Lionel Universal Remote with original production firmware.

The following first-generation LionChief locomotives are NOT supported by the Universal Remote with original production firmware:

6-81287    Union Pacific Steam Remote Freight Set
6-81331    Iron Arry
6-81332    Iron Bert
6-81031    Lionel Junction Dinosaur Diesel Remote Set
6-81288    Lionel Junction Pet Shop Diesel Remote Set
6-30228    0-8-0 Chattanooga Set
6-30233    Pennsylvania Flyer Remote Set
6-81259    PRR 0-8-0 Remote Broadway Limited
6-81262    Union Pacific Flyer Remote (0-8-0)
6-30207    Santa Fe RS-3 Remote Scout Freight Set
6-81263    Jersey Remote RS3 Passenger Train
6-81480    John Deer Remote Set
6-30206    Alien Invasion Remote RS-3 Set
6-81101    Remote Polar with 10th Anniversary
6-30218    The Polar Express Remote Set
6-30183    Lionel 2-4-2 Remote Scout Steam Set
6-82151    Bass Pro Shop 2-4-2 LionChief Scout RTR Set
6-30205    2-4-2 Remote Xmas Set
6-30214    Peanuts Halloween 2-4-2 Remote Set

The following Second Generation LionChief locomotives ARE COMPATIBLE with the Universal Remote with original production firmware:

Lion Chief -------------------------------------------
6-81284    Frosty Snowman Remote Set
6-81395    Thomas Kinkade Xmas 0-8-0 Remote Set
6-81280    Victorian Xmas Remote Set
6-81279    Albert Hall European Remote Set
6-81266    Amtrak FT Remote Set
6-81475    Batman Remote M7 Set
6-81264    Western Union Telegraph LionChief General Freight Set
6-81270    Bethlehem Steel Remote Docksider Set
6-82545    Christmas Docksider Set
6-82427    The Patriot U36B Frieght Set
6-82324    Chessie System U36B Freight Set
6-82188    MTA Metro-North Remote 3-Car Commuter Set
6-82436    Pennsylvania Railroad Keystone Classic Diesel Set
6-82099    Zombie Apocolypse Remote Set
6-11699    Hallmark Set

Lion Chief Plus -------------------------------------------
6-81295    Santa Fe LionChief Plus Mikado
6-81296    GN LionChief Plus Mikado
6-81297    PRR LionChief Plus Mikado
6-81299    Chessie LionChief Plus Mikado
6-81301    NYC LionChief Plus Hudson
6-81302    C&O LionChief Plus Hudson
6-81303    UP LionChief Plus Hudson
6-81304    CN LionChief Plus Hudson
6-81307    B&O LionChief Plus Pacific
6-81308    CP LionChief Plus Pacific
6-81309    SP LionChief Plus Pacific
6-81311    Alaska LionChief Plus Pacific
6-38821    AT&SF LionChief Plus GP-7
6-38824    NP LionChief Plus GP-7
6-38825    UP LionChief Plus GP-7
6-38827    CBQ LionChief Plus GP-7
6-38819    Rio Grande LionChief Plus RS-3
6-38816    PRR LionChief Plus RS-3
6-38778    C&NW LionChief Plus RS-3
6-38779    NYC LionChief Plus RS-3
6-49632    American Flyer Polar Express Berkshire Set
6-82175    LionChief Plus Virginian Rectifier
6-82176    LionChief Plus N&W Rectifier
6-82177    LionChief Plus New Haven Rectifier
6-82178    LionChief Plus Conrail Rectifier
6-82179    LionChief Plus PRR Rectifier
6-82171    LionChief Plus BNSFGP20
6-82172    LionChief Plus NYC GP20
6-82173    LionChief Plus NS GP20
6-82174    LionChief Plus Susquehanna  GP20
6-58213    LCCA B&M LionChief Plus GP-7 #2335  
6-58214    LCCA B&M Non-Powered GP-7 #2361
6-82290    LionChief Plus Santa Fe FT AA   POWERED
        LionChief Plus Santa Fe FT AA  NON-POWERED
6-82293    LionChief Plus ACL FT AA  POWERED
        LionChief Plus ACL FT AA  NON-POWERED
6-82296    LionChief Plus Erie FT AA OWERED
        LionChief Plus Erie FT AA  NON-POWERED
6-82299    LionChief Plus Rio Grande FT AA POWERED
        LionChief Plus Rio Grande FT AA  NON-POWERED
6-82302    Santa Fe LionChief Plus FT  B-Unit
6-82303    ACL LionChief Plus FT  B-Unit
6-82304    Erie LionChief Plus FT  B-Unit
6-82305    Rio Grande LionChief Plus FT  B-Unit
6-82163    LionChief Plus B&O NW2
6-82164    LionChief Plus BN NW2
6-82165    LionChief Plus CB&Q NW2
6-82166    LionChief Plus Southern NW2
6-82414    Jersey Central 4-6-0 Camelback
6-82415    Lackawanna 4-6-0 Camelback
6-82416    Lehigh Valley 4-6-0 Camelback
6-82417    Philadelphia and Reading 4-6-0 Camelback
6-82418    Erie 4-6-0 Camelback
(later 2015-2016 production) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
6-42562    A/F Nickel Plate FlyerChief Berkshire #765
6-42569    A/F C&O FlyerChief Berkshire #490
6-47921    A/F Pere Marquette FlyerChief Berkshire #1225
6-47922    A/F Erie FlyerChief Berkshire #3360
6-47923    A/F Southern FlyerChief Berkshire #2716
6-82960    New York Central LionChief Plus Mikado #1548
6-82961    Union Pacific LionChief Plus Mikado #2537
6-82962    Southern LionChief Plus Mikado #4501
6-82963    Rio Grande LionChief Plus Mikado #1208
6-82964    Milwaukee Road LionChief Plus Hudson #6400
6-82965    ATSF LionChief Plus Hudson #3450
6-82966    DL&W LionChief Plus Hudson #1151
6-82967    CB&Q LionChief Plus Hudson #3007
6-82968    Lionel Lines LionChief Plus Pacific
6-82969    Western Maryland LionChief Plus Pacific
6-82970    RBMN  LionChief Plus Pacific
6-82971    C&NW LionChief Plus Pacific
6-83214    North Pole Central LionChief Plus Pacific
6-82973    PRR LionChief Plus A5
6-82974    SP LionChief Plus A5
6-82975    B&O LionChief Plus A5
6-82976    Beth Steel LionChief Plus A5
6-82825    CP Rail LionChief+ GP38 #3128
6-82826    CSX LionChief+ GP38 #2145
6-82827    SP LionChief+ GP38 #4846
6-82828    Union Pacific LionChief+ GP38 #905

Jon,

Is it reasonable to assume that all future LionChief set locos will be compatible?

I don't notice Thomas the Tank being on either list, and that's a popular LionChief set that's been around for some years.

Thanks.

Jon, Thank you for that list!  Must have taken a bit to put it all together and I know many of us really appreciate it.  

As for the Thomas engines, I think it is a certainty that the early ones won't work.  Those used a 27mHz radio.  I have no idea on later ones what is in use, but it looks like all of the other very small, similar engines are on the NO list.  

JGL

Nice work, thanks.

So, essentially, ALL Lion Chief Plus locos work with the new remote. Works for me as I only run the PLUS versions in the LC line.

Great information Jon, thanks for the effort.

Thanks to those who pointed out missing Thomas, etc. Here's a revision of the list.

Lionel 6-83071 Universal Remote LionChief Locomotive compatability list
revision January 3, 2017

This document lists Lionel LionChief locomotives which are or are not supported by the Lionel Universal Remote with original production firmware.

The following first-generation LionChief locomotives are NOT supported by the Universal Remote with original production firmware:

6-30162 Thomas Xmas Set
6-30183 Lionel 2-4-2 Remote Scout Steam Set
6-30190 Thomas and Friends Remote Set
6-30205 2-4-2 Remote Xmas Set
6-30206 Alien Invasion Remote RS-3 Set
6-30207 Santa Fe RS-3 Remote Scout Freight Set
6-30214 Peanuts Halloween 2-4-2 Remote Set
6-30218 The Polar Express Remote Set 
6-30221 Diesel Set (Separated sales 6-18775)
6-30222 Percy Set
6-30223 James Set
6-30228 0-8-0 Chattanooga Set 
6-30233 Pennsylvania Flyer Remote Set 
6-81031 Lionel Junction Dinosaur Diesel Remote Set
6-81101 Remote Polar with 10th Ann Logo
6-81259 PRR 0-8-0 Remote Broadway Limited
6-81262 Union Pacific Flyer Remote (0-8-0)
6-81263 Jersey Remote RS3 Passenger Train
6-81286 Little Steam Remote Set
6-81287 Union Pacific Steam Remote Freight Set
6-81288 Lionel Junction Pet Shop Diesel Remote Set
6-81331 Iron Arry
6-81332 Iron Bert
6-81480 John Deer Remote Set
6-82151 Bass Pro Shop 2-4-2 LionChief Scout RTR Set
6-82972 Lionel Junction Pennsylvania Diesel Remote Set (Loco #9431)
6-83266 Lionel Junction Santa Fe Steam Remote Set
6-83504 Birthday Thomas the Tank Engine

The following Second Generation LionChief locomotives ARE COMPATIBLE with the Universal Remote with original production firmware:

Lion Chief -------------------------------------------
6-11699 Hallmark Set
6-81261 New York Central 0-8-0 Flyer (Dealer Exclusive)
6-81264 Western Union Telegraph LionChief General Freight Set
6-81266 Amtrak FT Remote Set
6-81269 PRR Allegheny Hauler Berkshire  Set
6-81270 Bethlehem Steel Remote Docksider Set
6-81279 Albert Hall European Remote Set
6-81280 Victorian Xmas Remote Set
6-81284 Frosty Snowman Remote Set
6-81395 Thomas Kinkade Xmas 0-8-0 Remote Set
6-81470 DC Comics Batman Phantom Set
6-81475 Batman Remote M7 Set
6-82099 Zombie Apocolypse Remote Set
6-82188 MTA Metro-North Remote 3-Car Commuter Set
6-82324 Chessie System U36B Freight Set
6-82427 The Patriot U36B Frieght Set
6-82436 Pennsylvania Railroad Keystone Classic Diesel Set
6-82545 Christmas Docksider Set (Santa's Helper)
6-82716 Disney Christmas General Set
6-82941 2015 Brass Pro Shop Set
6-82984 NYC RS3 Scout Remote Set
6-83080 Rio Grande 0-4-0 Switcher Set (Dealer Exclusive)
6-83286 John Deere Steam Set
6-83620 Hogwarts LionChief RTR Set
6-83624 Union Pacific Sherman Hill RS3 Scout Set (Dealer Exclusive)
6-83648 MLB Yankees LionChief RTR Subway Set
6-83659 PRR Keystone Special 0-8-0 Set (Exclusive)
6-84354 Hogwarts LionChief Set

Lion Chief Plus -------------------------------------------
6-81295 Santa Fe LionChief Plus Mikado
6-81296 GN LionChief Plus Mikado
6-81297 PRR LionChief Plus Mikado
6-81299 Chessie LionChief Plus Mikado
6-81301 NYC LionChief Plus Hudson
6-81302 C&O LionChief Plus Hudson
6-81303 UP LionChief Plus Hudson
6-81304 CN LionChief Plus Hudson
6-81307 B&O LionChief Plus Pacific
6-81308 CP LionChief Plus Pacific
6-81309 SP LionChief Plus Pacific
6-81311 Alaska LionChief Plus Pacific
6-38821 AT&SF LionChief Plus GP-7
6-38824 NP LionChief Plus GP-7
6-38825 UP LionChief Plus GP-7
6-38827 CBQ LionChief Plus GP-7
6-38819 Rio Grande LionChief Plus RS-3
6-38816 PRR LionChief Plus RS-3
6-38778 C&NW LionChief Plus RS-3
6-38779 NYC LionChief Plus RS-3
6-49632 American Flyer Polar Express Berkshire Set
6-82175 LionChief Plus Virginian Rectifier
6-82176 LionChief Plus N&W Rectifier
6-82177 LionChief Plus New Haven Rectifier
6-82178 LionChief Plus Conrail Rectifier
6-82179 LionChief Plus PRR Rectifier
6-82171 LionChief Plus BNSFGP20
6-82172 LionChief Plus NYC GP20
6-82173 LionChief Plus NS GP20
6-82174 LionChief Plus Susquehanna GP20
6-58213 LCCA B&M LionChief Plus GP-7 #2335
6-58214 LCCA B&M Non-Powered GP-7 #2361
6-82290 LionChief Plus Santa Fe FT AA POWERED
LionChief Plus Santa Fe FT AA NON-POWERED
6-82293 LionChief Plus ACL FT AA POWERED
LionChief Plus ACL FT AA NON-POWERED
6-82296 LionChief Plus Erie FT AA OWERED
LionChief Plus Erie FT AA NON-POWERED
6-82299 LionChief Plus Rio Grande FT AA POWERED
LionChief Plus Rio Grande FT AA NON-POWERED
6-82302 Santa Fe LionChief Plus FT B-Unit
6-82303 ACL LionChief Plus FT B-Unit
6-82304 Erie LionChief Plus FT B-Unit
6-82305 Rio Grande LionChief Plus FT B-Unit
6-82163 LionChief Plus B&O NW2
6-82164 LionChief Plus BN NW2
6-82165 LionChief Plus CB&Q NW2
6-82166 LionChief Plus Southern NW2
6-82414 Jersey Central 4-6-0 Camelback
6-82415 Lackawanna 4-6-0 Camelback
6-82416 Lehigh Valley 4-6-0 Camelback
6-82417 Philadelphia and Reading 4-6-0 Camelback
6-82418 Erie 4-6-0 Camelback
(later 2015-2016 production) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
6-42562 A/F Nickel Plate FlyerChief Berkshire #765
6-42569 A/F C&O FlyerChief Berkshire #490
6-47921 A/F Pere Marquette FlyerChief Berkshire #1225
6-47922 A/F Erie FlyerChief Berkshire #3360
6-47923 A/F Southern FlyerChief Berkshire #2716
6-82960 New York Central LionChief Plus Mikado #1548
6-82961 Union Pacific LionChief Plus Mikado #2537
6-82962 Southern LionChief Plus Mikado #4501
6-82963 Rio Grande LionChief Plus Mikado #1208
6-82964 Milwaukee Road LionChief Plus Hudson #6400
6-82965 ATSF LionChief Plus Hudson #3450
6-82966 DL&W LionChief Plus Hudson #1151
6-82967 CB&Q LionChief Plus Hudson #3007
6-82968 Lionel Lines LionChief Plus Pacific
6-82969 Western Maryland LionChief Plus Pacific
6-82970 RBMN LionChief Plus Pacific
6-82971 C&NW LionChief Plus Pacific
6-83214 North Pole Central LionChief Plus Pacific
6-82973 PRR LionChief Plus A5
6-82974 SP LionChief Plus A5
6-82975 B&O LionChief Plus A5
6-82976 Beth Steel LionChief Plus A5
6-82825 CP Rail LionChief+ GP38 #3128
6-82826 CSX LionChief+ GP38 #2145
6-82827 SP LionChief+ GP38 #4846
6-82828 Union Pacific LionChief+ GP38 #905

Ouch.  I ordered 2 of the Universal remotes for the 6 Lionchief engines we have and only 1 is supported.  Ouch.  Here's hoping to updates in the future....

Jim

Can the original production firmware be updated to support the universal remote?

Chris