Sorry but I have to ask why is UP retiring the #4141 so soon? Isn't That loco an EMD SD70M one of the most recent models?
Is it that worn out or is there more to tt than meets the eye?
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Sorry but I have to ask why is UP retiring the #4141 so soon? Isn't That loco an EMD SD70M one of the most recent models?
Is it that worn out or is there more to tt than meets the eye?
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UP 4141 is going on permanent display at the George H.W. Bush Library and Museum in Texas.
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:Sorry but I have to ask why is UP retiring the #4141 so soon?
Have you tried a Google search about what UP unit "4141" is? Have you seen photos of it, and do you recognize the significance of road number "4141"?
Isn't That loco an EMD SD70M one of the most recent models?
Sort of, yes.
Is it that worn out
No, it is not "worn out". In fact all the major internal components have been removed.
or is there more to tt than meets the eye?
And there you have it!!!!!!
Just going to be displayed.
@Hot Water posted:
Yes. I am aware that 41 is the 41st President and its going to be displayed at the G.W. BushPresidential Library. However these displays occur AFTER the locomotive has run its useful life.
This is a fairly modern unit to be placed on display so early in its life...no?
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:Yes. I am aware that 41 is the 41st President and its going to be displayed at the G.W. BushPresidential Library. However these displays occur AFTER the locomotive has run its useful life.
This is a fairly modern unit to be placed on display so early in its life...no?
The UP has around 2000 locomotives in storage, so the power desk won't miss the 4141. The UP obviously feels a close relationship with the past president.
The 4141 has been in and out of storage since 2009.
Rusty
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:Yes. I am aware that 41 is the 41st President and its going to be displayed at the G.W. BushPresidential Library. However these displays occur AFTER the locomotive has run its useful life.
This is a fairly modern unit to be placed on display so early in its life...no?
The 710 is removed as well as I'm sure traction motors, and other components as well.
I saw 4141 at Palestine, TX, on Nov. 9, 2019, when I went there to see the Big Boy. I was told 4141 was going from there to the UP Jenkins shop at Little Rock, to have its internal machinery removed, and from there it would be towed to College Station, Texas, at the Bush Library at Texas A&M University, for permanent display.
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:Yes. I am aware that 41 is the 41st President and its going to be displayed at the G.W. BushPresidential Library. However these displays occur AFTER the locomotive has run its useful life.
That may be your opinion, but certainly NOT the opinion/decision of the UP management.
This is a fairly modern unit to be placed on display so early in its life...no?
No, not really. Do you know how many megawatt hours are on it?
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:Yes. I am aware that 41 is the 41st President and its going to be displayed at the G.W. BushPresidential Library. However these displays occur AFTER the locomotive has run its useful life.
This is a fairly modern unit to be placed on display so early in its life...no?
This actually changes the entire perception of your original question. Now I (we) understand what you were asking, as in, "I see UP is sending #4141 to the Library already, This is a fairly modern unit to be placed on display so early in its life...no?"
I was told by a UP employee during my visit that the 4141 was an older model of the SD70, and would require a bunch of updates, and also didn't comply with current emission requirements. It couldn't continue to be used in its current condition, and it wasn't worth it to perform all the changes that would be required. Basically, it sounded like it was about to be put out to pasture anyway.
BTW, check "Texas A&M Today" magazine for an interesting story, and photos, of the arrival of 4141. It was just put on formal display this past Sunday, I believe.
When it went north out of Houston behind Big Boy, I was more impressed with the 4141!
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