I recently noticed that Lionel's Legacy FEFs have a closed door across the back of the loco cab. MTH's Premier versions have a traditional "open" cab (albeit with panels on the outside behind the engineer's and fireman's seats.) The MTH also seems to have more/different topside detail on the oil tender. Which is more prototypically accurate? Especially for the 844 as it is currently operating in excursion service. Thanks!
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I don't specifically know. However since the 844 is still in operation and has been modified and modernized many times it is likely that many of the details were accurate at some point in time.
I know with my ATSF 3751 from 3rd Rail. They modeled the current running version and the paint for example used for the lettering is more white while in the 40s the ATSF paint was silver. I'm sure others could also point out details for the UP FEF that are both accurate and inaccurate depending on what version or era of the 844 they pick.
Concerning the open or enclosed rear of the cab, both are correct. All the UP "all weather cabs" have a foldaway rear cab wall, so in bad weather it is all closed up, while in good warm weather it is open.
As to "how 844 is today", the MTH version is more accurate (two turbo generators), while the Legacy model is an EXCELLENT representation of 844 in the mid to late 1950s, i.e. regular service.
Concerning the open or enclosed rear of the cab, both are correct. All the UP "all weather cabs" have a foldaway rear cab wall, so in bad weather it is all closed up, while in good warm weather it is open.
The only O scale model I've seen that models this detail correctly is the new Kohs Challenger. It has the hinged folding rear cab walls with opening doors within the walls. It's a lot more robust than your would think but a lot of extra time to fabricate I'm sure.
None of my FEF-3's had this feature regardless the cost.
Butch
None of my FEF-3's had this feature regardless the cost.
Butch
Models, yes. Obviously the real ones did. On the other hand, the "closed up" version on the Lionel Legacy FEF-3 model is hard to beat, since it is all closed up.
Oh, you are right! I never noticed it, and I have had the thing apart. Not sure I care - but I think I would rather be able to see in there. Now I shall go check the USH.
Not sure I care - but I think I would rather be able to see in there.
I agree, if you're going to the trouble of putting a nicely detailed interior in a loco you want to see it better than just peeking through a window. The Keys and OMI's had nice cab interiors in their FEF's, Challenger's and BB's and had opening cab doors (closed cabs) but it was harder to see all the nice detail. The Kohs with the fold-away rear wall opens it up to the viewer....................and it's a fantastic interior too.
Butch
Not sure I care - but I think I would rather be able to see in there.
I agree, if you're going to the trouble of putting a nicely detailed interior in a loco you want to see it better than just peeking through a window.
Butch
With the cab interior light on, the cab interior detail is pretty visible, at least on my Legacy FEF model. I also have a modified MTH UP Challenger with the real of the cab "closed up", and the interior details are still pretty visible.