Update B3SU (Base3 System Utility) uploaded 2/5/2025 V1.0.13

Neither the update nor the original program will install on my Dell Latitude E6410 running Windows 7 Professional.

Neither the original program or the update will go past the first phase of the installation.  Stuck permanently at

Copying Files, Please stand by,

Processing VBSTKIT.DLL

John

@Craftech posted:

Neither the update nor the original program will install on my Dell Latitude E6410 running Windows 7 Professional.

Neither the original program or the update will go past the first phase of the installation.  Stuck permanently at

Copying Files, Please stand by,

Processing VBSTKIT.DLL

John

This is a tough one. Support for Windows 7 ended on January 14, 2020. Even if it did install, I'm betting you'd run into strange errors with wifi and shared software libraries in particular. Maybe Lionel support has some workarounds, but I wouldn't bet on it.

@J.Dooley posted:

This is a tough one. Support for Windows 7 ended on January 14, 2020. Even if it did install, I'm betting you'd run into strange errors with wifi and shared software libraries in particular. Maybe Lionel support has some workarounds, but I wouldn't bet on it.

I'm running on Windows 10 without issues.  I have the previous version on my Windows 11 machine.

I have the same result as Craftech, except I'm running Windows 10. Had the same issue on the original install attempt when B3SU came out.  Was able to install it on my Windows 11 laptop along with the update Marty mentions. Strange, but at least I got it on a device I can carry to the train room!

@J.Dooley posted:

This is a tough one. Support for Windows 7 ended on January 14, 2020. Even if it did install, I'm betting you'd run into strange errors with wifi and shared software libraries in particular. Maybe Lionel support has some workarounds, but I wouldn't bet on it.

System Requirements:

• Base3
• A PC that is running Windows XP (SP3) through Windows 10

John

@MartyE posted:

• Wi-Fi connection optimizations

• 4-Digit engine optimizations

That's the sum total of the release notes?

@gunrunnerjohn posted:

That's the sum total of the release notes?

You can go look for yourself if you don't believe me.

@MartyE posted:

You can go look for yourself if you don't believe me.

I did, just couldn't believe they were so short.

@Craftech posted:

Neither the update nor the original program will install on my Dell Latitude E6410 running Windows 7 Professional.

Neither the original program or the update will go past the first phase of the installation.  Stuck permanently at

Copying Files, Please stand by,

Processing VBSTKIT.DLL

John

You may need to run the setup program as an administrator or make sure you are logged as the Administrator when you run the setup program.

OR this can be done the hard way, and that is to open the Base3SystemUtility.CAB (it works much like a compressed ZIP file) file directly and copy the files directly to a folder on your C Drive. You still need to register the VBSTKIT.DLL file which is where your computer is having trouble in the first place.

To register the DLL file:

Copy the VBSTKIT.DLL to the c:\windows\system32 folder.
Next, open a command prompt window with administrator privileges.
   *   The methods of doing this vary between Windows versions. Generally, find the command prompt in the start menu, right-click on it, and select "run as Administrator"
type regsver 32 /i VBSTKIT.DLL and press enter

Now from the folder where you copied the Base3SystemUtility.CAB files, right-click on base3systemutility.exe, select "send to" and then click on "Desktop (create shortcut)".

Use the new shortcut to open the base 3 utility.

@Craftech posted:

Neither the update nor the original program will install on my Dell Latitude E6410 running Windows 7 Professional.

John

I noticed the is no DOS or Win 3.1 support either

@cbojanower posted:

I noticed the is no DOS or Win 3.1 support either

To be fair, the compiler and installer used by Lionel for the Base 3 Utility are almost as old as Windows 3.11 / 95.

Another trick with old install applications is to unpack the install files into a folder right off root, and make sure it is a short name (no more than 8 characters with no spaces).  There was issues with longer names or names with spaces in them for the older installer.

@H1000 posted:

You may need to run the setup program as an administrator or make sure you are logged as the Administrator when you run the setup program.

OR this can be done the hard way, and that is to open the Base3SystemUtility.CAB (it works much like a compressed ZIP file) file directly and copy the files directly to a folder on your C Drive. You still need to register the VBSTKIT.DLL file which is where your computer is having trouble in the first place.

To register the DLL file:

Copy the VBSTKIT.DLL to the c:\windows\system32 folder.
Next, open a command prompt window with administrator privileges.
   *   The methods of doing this vary between Windows versions. Generally, find the command prompt in the start menu, right-click on it, and select "run as Administrator"
type regsver 32 /i VBSTKIT.DLL and press enter

Now from the folder where you copied the Base3SystemUtility.CAB files, right-click on base3systemutility.exe, select "send to" and then click on "Desktop (create shortcut)".

Use the new shortcut to open the base 3 utility.

Thanks for this.  Here is what I did:

1.  Create new folder C:/Program Files/Lionel/B3SU  which is the only folder the program (according to Lionel) can reside in.

2.  Extract the Base3SystemUtility.CAB file to that folder using 7-Zip

3.  Right click on base3systemutility.exe and create a shortcut on the desktop

4.  Right click on the desktop shortcut and under Properties / Compatibility  check the box Run this program as an administrator and click Apply.

5.  Didn't have to register any .dll files

Although I haven't connected it to the Base 3 yet, the program opens.  I post back if it doesn't run properly for some reason.

John

And just so there is no confusion, this update is for the Base3 System Utility program made to run on a PC.  It allows the PC to communicate with the Base3 for doing some house keeping and such.  This is not something you install on the Base3.

Read all about it here.

@MartyE posted:

And just so there is no confusion, this update is for the Base3 System Utility program made to run on a PC.  It allows the PC to communicate with the Base3 for doing some house keeping and such.  This is not something you install on the Base3.

Read all about it here.

HEY MARTY,

THANKS so much for clarifying this "UPDATE"!   I guess a Person has to read more closely !!!

THANKS AGAIN !!

FREDSTRAINS

To check to see if the UPDATE :    V1.0.13 has been made to the B3SU.

CLICK:  "HELP: at the Top of the B3SU,  THEN

CLICK:  "ABOUT B3SU"

This will show you if the UPDATE has neen Accomplished.  It should Read:  VERSION 1.0.13  ( V1.0.13 ).

Thanks,

FREDSTRAINS