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Hello everyone,

 

      I just finished upgrading this beautiful Williams 773 NYC Hudson for a fellow forum member. I installed ERR command control with large steam sound, I added a LED front headlight, and also a rear LED tender backup light. Removed the old smoke unit, and installed a Fan driven smoke unit with a 24 OHM resistor. There's also a full size Fat Boy speaker in the tender. All the electronics are in the tender, and I was able to use a 4 pin tether. Enjoy the photo's and video below.

 

Thanks for looking,

Alex

 

          ORIGINAL ELECTRONICS

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          NEW FAT BOY SPEAKER

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          ELECTRIC RAILROAD INSTALLED

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Alex,

 

The resulting sounds are great, for sure. Good job!

 

I don't know anything about older trains (prior to 2008) or brands other than MTH and Lionel, so I have a question. Your 'before' picture shows the original speaker with the cone pointing upwards. Is that how it was, or did you turn it upside down just for the picture?

 

AlexMalliae B4-Aft

 

Thanks!

 

Alex

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Last edited by Ingeniero No1

I am sure Alex will answer, but some Williams frames are solid and the speaker pointing down doesn't do much.  So you need to drill holes if the speaker points down.

 

Williams uses the back baffle, so you will find speaker pointing all sorts of way depending on the engine.  Vertical, horizontal, angled.  G

Hi Guys, I thank you all for the very nice comments and info.

 

Ken Oscale, the smoke unit is a Lionel 27 ohm unit, with a 24 ohm resistor installed

 

Jeff, no issue's with the shell and chassis, the coal load is plastic, so I was able to

install the antenna under the coal load.

 

Alex, George (GGG) hit the nail on the head, I had to drill out all the holes in the chassis for the speaker.

 

Again I thank you all,

Alex

 

 

It is a bit of a pain to do this.  I have done it a number of times, and I have a written list of steps I printed from the Bachmann forum.  I don't have them in front of me, so bear with me:  You have to remove a large screw that holds the gearbox down, remove the flexible coupling between the motor and the gearbox, remove two very small screws on each side at the left and right bottom of the gearbox, detach the side rods from the center wheels, and then lift up the entire gearbox with the wheels.  When you remove the gearbox and wheels from the chassis, you can then remove the small screws holding a cover plate on the bottom of the gearbox.  With this cover plate removed, you will see the gears and the inside of the gearbox exposed.  After cleaning the old grease and applying new lube and screwing on the cover plate, the real trick is getting the gearbox back into the chassis and lining up the square bearings that keep trying to spin everywhere but where they belong.  This is my least favorite Williams locomotive to lube.  All of the semi-scale steamers are a walk in the park compared with the scale Hudson.
 
Originally Posted by The Portland Rose:

I am still trying to figure out how to get grease into the gearbox on mine.  MTH makes their steam easy to service with a grease put screw but to grease a Williams requires removal of the shell and the gear box.  The shell on mine is removed but I have not been able to remove the gearbox.

 

Gordon Z:  It almost sounds like Williams never intended this to need service.  From the amount of disassembly necessary, I think I may pass on trying to re-lube the gear assembly.  It almost sounds like trying to change a clutch, in my garage, on a 68 'Vette.  Once, I did this, and it took me about 18 hours, on my back, with the car up on cinder blocks (a pretty dumb move, in hindsight) with a trouble-light and a LOT of muscle.  But, that's another story, for another forum.  

 

Anyway, I no longer have the acute vision I once had, nor do I have the dexterity in my hands to think about attempting this task.  Thanks for posting the information.

 

 

I hear you.  I think you may be right.  After lubing my 773, I pretty much decided that it will have to do for as long as I own it.  I definitely won't be checking or changing the grease every twenty-five hours of operation, as Williams recommends.  Fortunately, it seems to be running fine.
 
My vision, dexterity, and patience have also diminished over the years; and very tiny screws seem to find their way to the floor every time.  After that, they bounce and roll and head for cover.  I have invented new colorful language for times like that.
 
Originally Posted by Bob Severin:

Gordon Z:  It almost sounds like Williams never intended this to need service.  From the amount of disassembly necessary, I think I may pass on trying to re-lube the gear assembly.  It almost sounds like trying to change a clutch, in my garage, on a 68 'Vette.  Once, I did this, and it took me about 18 hours, on my back, with the car up on cinder blocks (a pretty dumb move, in hindsight) with a trouble-light and a LOT of muscle.  But, that's another story, for another forum.  

 

Anyway, I no longer have the acute vision I once had, nor do I have the dexterity in my hands to think about attempting this task.  Thanks for posting the information.

 

 

 

Gordon Z -

 

Thanks for the reply and info.  I will give it another shot this weekend!  The Williams Scale Hudson is a great performing and strong running engine.

 

Bob -

 

The Williams instruction booklet says to grease it every 25 hours and it is a major disassembly to do that.  I may just end up putting mine back together as it was Running just fine before I started taking it apart and I have been running it for more than 25 hours!  Here she is before disassembly:

 

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