Vendor parts quality

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They did successfully require the vendors to mark their parts "R" for reproduction or replacement parts.

The requirement is only for parts sold at TCA shows.

There are an awful lot of reproduction parts out there without the "R".
I had reproduction helicopters both with and without the "R

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StPaul posted:

did i miss more replies to this?

I'm with STPAUL on this , Is this a two person conversation , or has some of the thread been deleted  ?

For all you conspiracy theorists...

The thread does start a bit oddly, but I am not aware of anything being deleted here.

I believe the OP stated that he had changed the title of the thread thus the reason why it is the way it is...

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The first post in this thread continues a side comment from another thread on the #60 Trolley

I guess that I might as well mention that some of the parts that modern era Lionel has been making since 1970 have been modified from what was originally made by the Lionel Corp prior to 1970. I guess that in most cases, new numbers were assigned. So those parts won't always fit postwar pieces without a bit of adjusting. 
Just something to be aware of.

C W Burfle posted:

The first post in this thread continues a side comment from another thread on the #60 Trolley

Thank you for clearing this up for me . One part of me agrees with you that the TCA has little to do about replacement parts , the other side of me thinks ,who else is out there that is capable of policing the vendors who make these various parts .One area that I can think of is the replacement parts for the USMC military loads . It used to be that you could tell if a truck was original by the fact that it had a PYRO logo on it . Not anymore , someone is reproducing them with the PYRO logo .You have to look very closely as there is only one ring around the logo .Originals have two . It really muddles the issue as to originality , and to the value of these items . Jim

 One area that I can think of is the replacement parts for the USMC military loads . It used to be that you could tell if a truck was original by the fact that it had a PYRO logo on it . Not anymore , someone is reproducing them with the PYRO logo .You have to look very closely as there is only one ring around the logo .Originals have two . It really muddles the issue as to originality , and to the value of these items .

That part would already be covered by existing TCA standards. According to the TCA, the part should be clearly marked as a reproduction. The only enforcement power the TCA has would be to ban their sale at a TCA show, but I bet you would still be able to find them at a TCA show if you looked hard enough. The TCA really cannot be the police force for the reproduction parts business.

Years ago the TCA put out some material on identifying reproduction parts and fakes. It would be great if updated material could be issued. But the TCA would need someone to create it. (Hey! How about a periodic column in the TCA Quarterly, where paying members can see the information. Might help boost the membership)

Some of the reproductions have been around so long, that they have patina, and are found in the train sets owned by the general public. It's up to those of us who care to educate ourselves.

To be clear, IMHO there is nothing wrong with reproduction parts. I use them. I would prefer that they were marked in some place that wasn't in plain view, but could be found without difficulty. The "R" on the bottom of most reproduction helicopters is a good example.

Summerdale Junction posted:

C W Burfle posted:

The first post in this thread continues a side comment from another thread on the #60 Trolley

Thank you for clearing this up for me . One part of me agrees with you that the TCA has little to do about replacement parts , the other side of me thinks ,who else is out there that is capable of policing the vendors who make these various parts .One area that I can think of is the replacement parts for the USMC military loads . It used to be that you could tell if a truck was original by the fact that it had a PYRO logo on it . Not anymore , someone is reproducing them with the PYRO logo .You have to look very closely as there is only one ring around the logo .Originals have two . It really muddles the issue as to originality , and to the value of these items . Jim

That is because the gentleman who is/was making the pyro truck loads, owned the Pyro Trademark and logo and was permitted to use them when he made the trucks. I am not sure if he is still making them or not.