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I'm in the middle of writing volume two of my 'Streets books, on modifying, bashing, and scratch building cars, buses, tractor trailers, etc: every project I cover I actually build while writing the book, taking pictures as I go.  I did this project yesterday and today and thought I would share it.  It turned out to be a jewel.  Photos and video below.

 

I know Lionel makes a nice Birney trolley: I have one.  However, this Corgi 1:50 is: a) much more of a detailed model - just beautiful and jewel-like in its detail, looking at lot less "toy," b) a bit smaller than the Lionel, which I like, including being about 1/4 inch lower (important clearing my 'Streets tunnel portals).  Most important it has a shorter wheelbase, since it rides on the WBB panel van chassis, and this means it sort of shrugs off D-16 'Streets curves as no big deal rather than treated them as a bother that should cause it to slow noticeably.  I also love the fact that I can see clear through both sets of windows to the other side of the street as it passes. 

 

The WBB panel van chassis the trolley sits on has had its motor upgrade to a larger motor (Lionel part #710069100 - the motor in the Hall Class locos like Hogwarts Express): double the power and a flywheel to make it run smoother. Exactly analogous to dropping a big block V8 in a car that had a small block in it.   It is faster, can carry more weight, and climb better, yes, but the real reason to do this conversion is that with the larger, lower RPM motor, and a flywheel, it will run very slowly, as a trolley should through downtown.  

 

This is actually two projects in the boo, both quite straightforward.  Putting the bigger motor in the plastic panel van chassis is perhaps the easiest project in the book.  To convert the trolley I just removed the wheels and cut a rectangle out of the bottom of the trolley: I didn't even take it apart.  The chassis then just fits into that hole and screws in.  That took less than an hour.  Interestingly, I had to add 18 cents worth of weight (eighteen pennies) to the trolley to get enough traction for it to run well.

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It's small enough it does not overwhelm other traffic like the Williams Peter Witt or a scale PCC does, yet is has a presence.  I love it.  

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 It will run a lot - probably ever day - I think it will be a near permanent fixture downtown.  It will cruise at about half this speed but this is about what I will run it at. 

 

 

 

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Very nice. Have you ever looked at the Bowser die-cast trolleys? As I recall there were two different ones, a four-wheel Birney and a larger, two-truck Brill car. They were nice looking cars, not highly detailed but well made. They have been out of production for many years, but are still often found at train shows and on eBay. I have the Brill; I'll post a photo if I can find it to take a picture. 

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Lee,

 

Lee, what happens when when you try a motorized Corgi PCC car on "streets"?  I presume the PCCs require D21 curves.

 

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I converted the Corgi PCC trolley shown below some time back. I posted photos and video then, but couldn't find them just now.  Anyway, the Corgi body was shortened some, and it uses two WBB sedan chassis so it has four axles and has two standard 'Streets motors powering it.  

 

In describing why I don't run this often, I need to distinguish between running on D-16 'Streets and running on the D-16 on my layout.  This trolley will run fine on D-16, if it is set up on, say, a flat tabletop with nothing around it.  But on my layout, it has such long overhang at each end that as it goes around a D-16 curve in my downtown the nose and tail sweep out like a bull in a china shop and knock into all manner of things nearby. It is much smaller than the Williams Peter Witt trolley but has such long overhang that it is just about as dangerous on my layout.  That is why i like this little Birney: it looks good and is courteous to all around it as it runs around the layout. 

 

 

 

 

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Here's a photo of the Bowser Brill trolley. It has somewhat less overhang than the PCC car, so should be less of a problem on crowded city streets. I don't know how tight a curve it will take - I don't have Streets and the tightest curve on my layout is 0-42. The power unit is typical of its era - an open-frame motor on one truck, worm drive, and rollers on the other truck. Might be an interesting project, or better yet, the smaller Bowser Birney car. 

 

 

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That is a nice looking trolley.  It would probably do nicely on at least D-21, maybe D-16, since it has swiveling trucks (its the two axle ones that struggle), and it does not appear to have too much overhang.  

 

One thing I love about the converted Corgi Birney is that I can see right through it as it goes down the street. The motor and all barely stick up past the lower sill of the windows, but I painted them flat black and you don't notice them.

 

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kj356 posted:

I wondered if the handcar bottom ends from any of the manufacturers would work any good for smaller trolleys or car or truck conversions for the streets.

In fact, the K-line handcar/speeder chassis-es make dandy single trucks for trolleys!  Here are an Enco and Corgi done by Bill Ondekko of Springfield, MO: GEDC2228GEDC2231

Note how the Corgi sideframes are a nearly perfect match for the K-line chassis!  The Enco uses sideframes from the Bachmann On30 single trucker...

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