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As some of you may have read (06 Feb 2015), three days after I received the loco back from Lionel for repairs I noticed that my VL Big Boy was missing its bell. I had looked everywhere, including the box, but did not find the bell. The day before that, a reporter had come to visit and had taken many photos. I asked him if in looking at his photos he could tell whether the bell was on the loco. He replied that there was no bell.

 

I called Lionel and explained the situation, and they promptly sent me another bell and cradle, which I received today. It appears that the cradle is secured from the inside with a screw, and since I do not want to get inside the loco (for now, anyway), I removed (unscrewed) the new bell from its cradle, and proceeded to install it on my loco.

 

However, instead of screwing on, the bell just sort of slipped onto the threaded portion of the clapper. This made me think that the clapper threads were stripped or damaged. I easily removed the new bell (slipped it off), added a drop of Testors cement (orange tube), waited a few seconds, and screwed the new bell on the old cradle. It seemed to screw on OK this time, and once dry, it now appears to be secure.

 

Since the threaded portion of the clapper (the one on the loco) appears to have been the problem, I wondered if the bell could have slipped off while it was running on the layout, or perhaps when I was taking the loco out of the box when returned from Lionel, so I went on another search.

 

Sure enough, I had opened the outer box and removed the inner, shiny black box using one of the viewing stands in the train room as a work surface, and there was the bell, next to one of the uprights that make up the safety railing. I screwed the ‘old’ bell onto the new cradle, and it screws on fine and tight, so there is no question that the problem was the original threaded clapper. I feel bad about not finding the bell sooner, so I will call Lionel tomorrow and offer to return the new cradle with the old bell.

 

New cradle and bell

VL BB Bell - Cradle IMG_0873

 

New bell screwed on the clapper

VL BB Bell on Cradle IMG_0874

 

Big Boy without the bell

VL BB No Bell IMG_0869

 

... and with a new bell!

VL BB With Bell IMG_0877

 

 

Moral of the Tale (to VL Big Boy owners)

 

Make sure that the bell is secure!

 

Alex

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  • VL BB Bell on Cradle IMG_0874
  • VL BB No Bell IMG_0869
  • VL BB With Bell IMG_0877
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Originally Posted by BFI66:

It rang a bell for me too.....as I found mine a bit loose.

 

-Pete

Pete,

That is why I posted , in case anyone else's Big Boy may need to have the bell 'secured'.

Thx!

 

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Originally Posted by 1drummer:
A Tale of Two Bells...

By the way, I had an awesome and inspiring visit to your Layout.
I forgot so many questions I planned to ask..
Like the wire gauge you ran to the relays..
And the average length of your blocks.

Thanks again for a great tour.

Glad you enjoyed your visit and the layout!

 

Wire gauges:

• Transformers (two ZW-L’s) to two TIU’s are 12 AWG

• TIU’s to distribution (relay) blocks (8 blocks x 6 relays) are 14 AWG

• Distribution (relay) blocks to Tracks (20 main districts + 28 sidings and spurs) are 16 AWG

 

The way I have placed the TIU’s and distribution blocks allows me to keep:

• The 14 AWG wire runs from the TIU’s to the distribution blocks to 15 to 20 feet

• The 16 AWG wire runs from the distribution blocks to the tracks to 10 to 15 feet

• The 12 AWG wire runs from the ZW-L’s to the TIU’s are 40 and 60 feet

 

Track-block lengths:

• Mainline (dual) track districts are 20 to 30 feet long

• Sidings are 10 to 25 feet long

• Spurs are five to 15 feet long

 

I run the relays with 24 AWG wire, and some of these runs are over 100 feet long.

 

Thanks for the kind words.

Alex

Last edited by Ingeniero No1

I wrote in my original post that it appeared to me that the bell cradle is attached to the top of the boiler with a screw, from the inside. I said this because it tried to lightly pry the cradle off the boiler, and it did not budge.

 

Now I question whether my notion that a screw holds the cradle from inside the boiler is correct? If correct, at least part of the locomotive would have to be disassembled to gain access to that screw; wouldn’t that sort of void the warranty?

 

Anyway, the bell is still on. And yes, I am afraid I will be checking that bell for some time to come.

 

Thx!

 

Alex

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