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Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by marker:

Nice Jonathan!  It's good to see at least one manufacturer is using dual headlamps with a proper lens that they can be appreciated.  Perhaps it will catch on.

I don't see the "dual headlamps with proper lens" in the above photos. Please elaborate.

I think he might be referring to the Amtrak unit. It seems to have a unique headlamp lens.

 

The Penn Central one looks great; tracking says mine will arrive on Tuesday. Can't wait!

Originally Posted by marker:

I don't see the "dual headlamps with proper lens" in the above photos. Please elaborate.

 
         

I probably should have posted dual sealed beams and a correct lens, but you knew what I meant and could have corrected the terminology. 

Not really. I have gone back to those photos posted above, MANY, MANY times, and I still don't see twin lights, OR sealed beam lights! What am I missing in those "dark" photos?

Yes, the twin lamp headlight is a really nice feature on the FL9.  One of the challenges for this project was that after several years in service there are several variations.  Some were replaced with single lamp headlights, while the orientation on others was vertical.  The New Haven model captures the as delivered twin lamp configuration in a horizontal orientation.

The Amtrak model represents the last version before Amtrak retired the FL9.  Amtrak retrofitted the FL9 with a Pyle headlight and that has been captured on that version along with the correct position of the reverse light between the windshields, the K5LA horn and the MU and HEP connectors retrofitted into the nose.  If anyone purchased the Maine Central version, they bought Amtrak 488 and 489 so these will be the same details.  The Metro North and NYC heritage schemes share details as well including ditch lights, a different MU and HEP connector set up and the Leslie K5LA horns. 

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I think he might be referring to the Amtrak unit. It seems to have a unique headlamp lens.

 

Nick - In the early 50's at some point EMD started installing dual sealed beams in the headlamp housing of their diesels.  (Hot Water, who worked for EMD is always able to correct at any time.) If you look at a lot of pictures of engines, you will find that dual sealed beams were commonly used, which isn't commonly seen in Atlas, MTH, and Lionel units, with a few exceptions.  3rd Rail chose to properly model that feature.

 

You can see what I'm talking about when looking at the lower headlamp of this Missouri Pacific diesel.

 

BTW - Hot Water is having a little fun tonight trying to keep me on my toes.

  

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Jonathan, cannot disagree on the fidelity and detailing of these locos, but what is it with the SIX foot long coupler in front of the three rail versions (admittedly my current pet peeve - too long couplers - now that Lionel and others are finally putting four chugs per revolution on all steamers I have something new to bother me)

I ordered the Maine Eastern pair 488-489, they have yet to arrive, will post pictures when i receive them!Originally Posted by GG1 4877:

Yes, the twin lamp headlight is a really nice feature on the FL9.  One of the challenges for this project was that after several years in service there are several variations.  Some were replaced with single lamp headlights, while the orientation on others was vertical.  The New Haven model captures the as delivered twin lamp configuration in a horizontal orientation.

The Amtrak model represents the last version before Amtrak retired the FL9.  Amtrak retrofitted the FL9 with a Pyle headlight and that has been captured on that version along with the correct position of the reverse light between the windshields, the K5LA horn and the MU and HEP connectors retrofitted into the nose.  If anyone purchased the Maine Central version, they bought Amtrak 488 and 489 so these will be the same details.  The Metro North and NYC heritage schemes share details as well including ditch lights, a different MU and HEP connector set up and the Leslie K5LA horns. 

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For the record, Pyle-National and Mars both manufactured dual sealed beam headlight castings which were mounted behind the bezel and glass of most EMD cab units built after August, 1949. Most customers specified the sealed beams, but some still specified the older glass reflector and screw-in light bulb. The assembly was mounted on a hinge and swung inward for maintenance or lamp replacement.

My Penn Central Turbo train.  Nice looking train.  Unfortunately it looks like MTH didn't do enough testing on gargaves O-72 curves.  If they had just put a little more space between the cars.  Problems stated in another post along with others.

 

 

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My son David repainted and decaled the Lionel early inspection car to SCL as a Hanukkah gift to me.

 

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Originally Posted by PeterA:

Jonathan, cannot disagree on the fidelity and detailing of these locos, but what is it with the SIX foot long coupler in front of the three rail versions (admittedly my current pet peeve - too long couplers - now that Lionel and others are finally putting four chugs per revolution on all steamers I have something new to bother me)

Peter to be fair, the coupler is only FOUR feet long .... ..... These are the first 3rd Rail diesels I've gotten in 3 rail and I can hardly disagree with you.  The coupler literally sticks out on these.  My growing collection of 2 rail diesels don't have this challenge.  I am going to try and modify the front coupler and see if I can shorten it or more likely mount a Kadee coupler on the nose side.  This is certainly a concern to address for the FP units coming up next. 

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