Weekend Tinplate photos 📸 and videos 📽 1/16/20!

Scott Smith

I think you might have something there.  Nice trains.

The arrival of the Mundhenke E63 was bittersweet. These engines come in a 0.5” thick wooden box. Trouble seems to be though that if you do not use the arresting bolt to secure the locomotive to the box then you may as well just put it in an envelope and hope for the best. Luckily, I’ve been able to straighten out the bends for the most part. Fixing the enamel loss will be a bit harder. Also, finding E5.5 19V bulbs is no easy thing either. All in all, it could have been much worse. It runs well and the directional lighting is intact. DHL / USPS can be brutal. Also shown as ‘new’ is the Marklin 1841 passenger coach.

How about some presidents.

Steve

PHILLYCHRIS: The seller owes you a serious discount for not properly securing the engine!  😐

Wow Chris , always disappointing when something shows up banged up in the post

This week I have a couple of new to the collection items

Although not O gauge I hope this nifty little Johann Hoefler set passes muster !

Such a cute little bugger and while not representative of anything , in its own right I am sure it gave the biggest smile to some young eyes at some point in its past ... Probably from the early 50's the clover trademark on it was changed in 1958 to a different style

Continuing with what is fast becoming a habit is another early hornby M1 from the 20's to 30's

But its differently numbered so it had to come visit

Last week Daniel showed a complete series of postwar JEP cars. JEP made this cars , which were based on a postwar SNCF design (called DEV) also in S gauge:

In S gauge these tinplate cars were relatively longer and having 7 instead of 5 windows; in S only a first/second class car, a combined passenger baggage car and a sleeping car weer made:

Regards

Fred

With MTH out of the Standard gauge business, we won't see any additional special cars from them, it seems. Here are three 200 series cars seeing duty under the holiday tree: the SGMA covered gondola and B & O  hopper, and a green and cream work caboose. 

Some look alike 4 wheel bobbers

Bing

Fandor

KBN

cooking with tinplate

Some more Blue Comet.

While I try to limit the American Flyer portion of my collection to pieces in original paint, I will stray when it comes to the products of other manufacturers.  Here is an example from Ives.

This is a representation of Ives' Knickerbocker set from 1930 with one extra 133 Pullman.  The 4 passenger cars came in one purchase. The seller did the repaints and claimed that the cars had originally been in these colors.

The #3261 engine was a separate purchase which I believe is in its original paint.

Before I found the engine I paired the cars with a #3251. (1924 -1928)

I really like the black and red color combination.

Could there be a Black Diamond in my future?

Have  a Great Tinplate weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

NJCJOE posted:

Some more Blue Comet.

Nice, Joe...I always wished Mike had made a JC/BC caboose.

During the thirties JEP has offered a great variety of "autorails" which are based on a standard model ot North Railways.      They have been very popular in their time and where less expensives than classic train sets.

And a smaller one in his original box.

After the war it has been produced with a SNCF stamping,

Have a nice weekend,  daniel

DANIEL: VERY NICE  and unique models! ☺

Only a few news in the collection this week.

Found a set of 4 Bub coaches No 4611, made 1933-1936. This coaches are from a german luxury train called "Rheingold"

The roofs are in wrong colour.

Some differents, oldest withe the windmill logo.

And a Adolf Schuhmann No 62 watchmans hut made around 1925. Was made with different signal arms.

Greetings

Arne

Jim Kelly-Evans posted:

NJCJOE posted:

Some more Blue Comet.

Nice, Joe...I always wished Mike had made a JC/BC caboose.

I've never seen one (maybe Joe has one?) but MTH's website shows one: 11-30146

Robert S. Butler posted:

Some look alike 4 wheel bobbers

Bing

Fandor

KBN

and Dorfan?

New to me this month.

Fandor coach asst.

Hafner "hurts the eyes" passenger cars

JC Schrey tunnel ( a little faded, I may have to touch up).

Sturdy little bugger, it has an inner structure that mates to the outer for extra stability. 

Bing 425 PRR baggage

Bauer gravity railway coaster coach

Well Jim O'C, why stop at hurting the eyes - let's go the distance and make 'em water outright! 

Robert S. Butler posted:

Well Jim O'C, why stop at hurting the eyes - let's go the distance and make 'em water outright! 

 

they had the technology to make an actual observation-shaped body, yet they made this observation the same as the Pullmans. Escapes me.

Jim Kelly-Evans posted:

NJCJOE posted:

Some more Blue Comet.

Nice, Joe...I always wished Mike had made a JC/BC caboose.

Me too Jim.

The Blue Comet freight train in action:

Robert S. Butler posted:

Well Jim O'C, why stop at hurting the eyes - let's go the distance and make 'em water outright! 

 

Probably says a lot about my taste and preference for "toy" trains ... but I really like that set

Hey , its supposed to be fun right ?

So many amazing posts, I don't know where to start!  Steve, your layout is a feast for the eyes. Ratpack, your collection is mouthwatering. Love the bobbers, Robert. I'm fascinated by everything that Daniel and Arne post. Great finds, Jim. Really this thread is outstanding. Thanks, all.

Haven’t dipped my toes in Tin Plate yet...... How and where does one starting looking ? What to stay away from...all that good stuff. Thanks

Jim O'C posted:

Robert S. Butler posted:

Well Jim O'C, why stop at hurting the eyes - let's go the distance and make 'em water outright! 

 

they had the technology to make an actual observation-shaped body, yet they made this observation the same as the Pullmans. Escapes me.

I would hazard a guess at " low cost " production and simplicity in the manufacturing process

Every deviation from the norm cost's $$$'s either in tooling, lithograpy or assembly time , and Hafner making mucho trains for kids, as opposed to us fussy collectors 50 or 70 years later, realism didnt come into it I would say

Bright colours and play-ability would have sold more that authenticity in the day .

I think thats why I like them so much , my inner kid is triggered by this type of thing .

Fatman - so do I - in addition to eye catching colors it runs well, has a bell with a clapper that is actuated by the track ties as it passes over them and has a battery to power the headlight.

Stay away from all of it... trust me.

Nessmuck posted:

Haven’t dipped my toes in Tin Plate yet...... How and where does one starting looking ? What to stay away from...all that good stuff. Thanks

That needs its own thread

Nessmuck posted:

Haven’t dipped my toes in Tin Plate yet...... How and where does one starting looking ? What to stay away from...all that good stuff. Thanks

Ooh now there is a rabbit hole in the making LOL!

Depends a LOT on why you want to acquire tinplate and what you intend it to evolve into ?

Me personally , I collect tinplate trains for toy value and appeal , and love diversity, collecting from any country, any manufacturer,and any time period from the 1800's up to the late 1960's and in my case 90% Clockwork ( or wind-up as you guys say)

There are some collectors who will spend their whole lives looking for just one thing ... thats how diverse it is

Some will collect for rarity and monetary value, others will cherish a rusty heap of crap ( like me lol)

Others love the challenge of bringing something back to its former glory ( this is not usually the way to improve on investment as repaints etc command less than originals in 99% of the cases) but they do it because it brings them the pleasure and challenge .

but Golden Rule , buy what you like and what you can afford .. That way you will always enjoy your collecting

Nessmuck posted:

Haven’t dipped my toes in Tin Plate yet...... How and where does one starting looking ? What to stay away from...all that good stuff. Thanks

I would say go to a train show and see what you like. You'll see a lot of Lionel pre-war in O gauge and Standard Gauge, but there were quite a few US manufacturers of electric trains at the time like American Flyer, Ives, Dorfan. There is also a whole world of European tinplate and a world of clockwork trains. This forum is a good way to learn. There are a lot of real experts here. I myself am relatively new to tinplate ( from postwar and modern) and having the resources of an artist, I find things that need a little TLC to restore. I don't think you can go wrong if you buy what you like and what you can afford.

you'll be sorry!

I granted myself permission to use a picture taken by myself

Nessmuck posted:

Haven’t dipped my toes in Tin Plate yet...... How and where does one starting looking ? What to stay away from...all that good stuff. Thanks

The best place for someone to start looking is really antique malls and auction houses. If you scared of the prices (they vary with what you are looking to buy) then eBay is your next best bet. The things to stay away from are really untested or damaged pieces as per everything else, also, make sure that the lithograph is in good shape (as there’s not really much repair that can be done to faded or rusted lithographs. Also, I prefer to just clean off items with a dry cloth, and q tips, basic non-abrasive items. I sometimes use 3 in 1 oil to shine up the paint, as it is a cleaner. 

                                                 Trainfam 

Iam going to the Big E next weekend to poke around....haven’t been there in a while. Might see something there....

MikeH posted:

Jim Kelly-Evans posted:

NJCJOE posted:

Some more Blue Comet.

Nice, Joe...I always wished Mike had made a JC/BC caboose.

I've never seen one (maybe Joe has one?) but MTH's website shows one: 11-30146

Hummm...the other BC freights are 500 series I believe, tank car , searchlight car and box or baggage car. I wasn't aware of this car.

Saw this sweet looking roundhouse at an auction house last weekend.  It was on a top shelf and looked like some else had already purchased it so this was the only photo I could get.

Jim Kelly-Evans posted:

MikeH posted:

Jim Kelly-Evans posted:

NJCJOE posted:

Some more Blue Comet.

Nice, Joe...I always wished Mike had made a JC/BC caboose.

I've never seen one (maybe Joe has one?) but MTH's website shows one: 11-30146

Hummm...the other BC freights are 500 series I believe, tank car , searchlight car and box or baggage car. I wasn't aware of this car.

I have seen that caboose but don't have one. I wasn't interested because as you said Jim, this is a 200 series car while the others were 500 series.