Weekend Tinplate photos 📸 and videos 📽 1/30/20!

I managed to procure uber cheaply some rather interesting bits of history , one I would think not so rare , and the other a little bit more IMHO 

now before anyone gets too excited ( lol ) I need to explain these probably count more as emphemera as opposed to O gauge collecting !

Now that I have expectations managed ... I present to you ...

A couple of desk paperweights !!!

Whoo hooooooo !!! lololololol...

But bear with me ... the first is one from the British Empire Exhibition held in the UK in 1924 , I am presuming these were made in a fair amounts as the exhibition as nearly 27 million people visited it in the two years it ran for ... Wembley Stadium was built for this event as well as some enormous buildings finished off or commissioned , most notably The Crystal Palace ... The Flying Scotsman as well as many other Locomotives were present and on display ..

So it appears that Canada took part with both its railways having smaller pavillions ... where an astute collector  could pick up a nice paperweight ...

As you can see it still has 96 years of dust to be lightly cleaned off

Its also been banged up a bit , probably bombed in the Blitz LOL!

Described on a British Museums website as ...

"British Empire Exhibition 1924 Wembley Model Locomotive an interesting and unusual model of a Canadian National Railways Locomotive being then the heaviest Locomotive in the World at that time weighing 290 tons. Made by Britain Ltd of London, this was sold at their stand at the exhibition, an ideal desk paperweight "

The other one is I think much rarer and the two came to me at the one price

As can be seen condition on this one isnt A-1 either with the tender suffering from a bit of oxidation, and coming loose on one side ... but its the engraving that makes this little beauty a star in history

" NORTH EASTERN RAILWAY

IN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF VOLUNTEER SERVICE

NATIONAL RAILWAY STRIKE -1919 "

From my research into this piece the Great Railway Strike of 1919 was a major turning point in Industrial Relations in the day , the strike was monumental in that it truly was NATIONAL , not just one company or area , and the British Govt really needed it to fail , but in the end the Govt lost the battle , as unions turned to the media outlaying huge sums , up to £1500 a day for advertisements which quickly got the general public onside , it only lasted 9 days but the entire 400,000 members of the National Union of Ralway Men and the Associated  Society of Locomotive Engineers and Firemen held strong basically crippling the entire countries freight and passenger networks

Fatman posted:

I managed to procure uber cheaply some rather interesting bits of history , one I would think not so rare , and the other a little bit more IMHO 

now before anyone gets too excited ( lol ) I need to explain these probably count more as emphemera as opposed to O gauge collecting !

Now that I have expectations managed ... I present to you ...

A couple of desk paperweights !!!

Whoo hooooooo !!! lololololol...

But bear with me ... the first is one from the British Empire Exhibition held in the UK in 1924 , I am presuming these were made in a fair amounts as the exhibition as nearly 27 million people visited it in the two years it ran for ... Wembley Stadium was built for this event as well as some enormous buildings finished off or commissioned , most notably The Crystal Palace ... The Flying Scotsman as well as many other Locomotives were present and on display ..

So it appears that Canada took part with both its railways having smaller pavillions ... where an astute collector  could pick up a nice paperweight ...

 

As you can see it still has 96 years of dust to be lightly cleaned off

Its also been banged up a bit , probably bombed in the Blitz LOL!

Described on a British Museums website as ...

"British Empire Exhibition 1924 Wembley Model Locomotive an interesting and unusual model of a Canadian National Railways Locomotive being then the heaviest Locomotive in the World at that time weighing 290 tons. Made by Britain Ltd of London, this was sold at their stand at the exhibition, an ideal desk paperweight "

The other one is I think much rarer and the two came to me at the one price

 

 

As can be seen condition on this one isnt A-1 either with the tender suffering from a bit of oxidation, and coming loose on one side ... but its the engraving that makes this little beauty a star in history

 

 

Ahh, looks like the dreaded zinc pest struck the wheels. 

Nice find though!

George

Chris Lonero posted:

Let’s see your tinplate! 
 
I’m cheating a little here but my new subway set is “plated” so.......

 

Looks like the chrome came out nice and shiny like my Santa Fe cars! Looks great! Did you add the passengers or did they come with it?

Maybe you should make a rush hour version with a hundred people squeezed in pressing up against the doors?

George

The history of British Trix is quite complicated with their relation with German Trix (see http://www.tcawestern.org/trix.htm). The British Trix trains wore the brand TTR for Trix Twin Railway. The 00 gauge system was based on 3-rail track were the rails were all insulated, so 2 trains could run on the same track individually. Last week I found this TTR set with a simple 0-4-0 locomoptive with cast metal body; the tender and coaches are lithographed tinplate:

It has British Railways lettering so it is from the fifties.

Regards

Fred

Verrrrry Nice set Fred !

I only have one rake of TTR .. but semi-snap!

With some of the older bakelite track

A good site for all things Trix ( UK side) is

http://www.trix-twin.co.uk/index.html

Since we seem to be in a European mode for the first part of this week's tinplate - here's a few more both from Bing

Passenger Car

Freight car

American Flyer Mayflower by Lionel Classics early 1990’s.

Hello All,

 This is my first post of my small (but growing) collection of Standard Gauge and Tinplate. I got bit by the bug and am also starting my first Standard Gauge Layout finally. A bit on the small side, but I need portability at time, but it will have the feel and charm of the 1920's-1930's. Exposed cloth wiring, original accessories etc. Picked up a refurbed Lionel Z, it has that Art Deco look that will complete the scheme. I drew up the layout in AutoCAD to mess with the design. I am going to start to sell off most of my modern rolling still remaining and go all Prewar. I am keeping my MPC era stuff to keep my 70's childhood memories alive.

Picked up this Lionel 517 recently:

Years ago I bought an MTH standard gauge freight set with a 392E up front with a string of brass-trimmed 500-series freights. For whatever reason, the dealer shipped me a 517 with the late all-red scheme with nickel trim. At the time I didn't throw a fit, but I came to hate the one out-of-sync car. This original 517 will be its replacement. Just a bit of polishing up and it'll be good to go.

PD

Layout vignettes.

Back on the farm

JKE: SPLENDID, as always! Especially love those figures and Marklin drums! ☺

Lirr Fan1 posted:

Hello All,

 This is my first post of my small (but growing) collection of Standard Gauge and Tinplate. I got bit by the bug and am also starting my first Standard Gauge Layout finally. A bit on the small side, but I need portability at time, but it will have the feel and charm of the 1920's-1930's. Exposed cloth wiring, original accessories etc. Picked up a refurbed Lionel Z, it has that Art Deco look that will complete the scheme. I drew up the layout in AutoCAD to mess with the design. I am going to start to sell off most of my modern rolling still remaining and go all Prewar. I am keeping my MPC era stuff to keep my 70's childhood memories alive.

Welcome to the tinplate world! I too started with more modern equipment. There is some modern gear I plan to keep, but I need to reduce some of the modern rolling stock too.

George

ratpak posted:

Back on the farm

Ratpak,

Are these yours? They are wonderful dioramas! They look like museum pics.

George

Lirr Fan1 posted:

Hello All,

 This is my first post of my small (but growing) collection of Standard Gauge and Tinplate. I got bit by the bug and am also starting my first Standard Gauge Layout finally. A bit on the small side, but I need portability at time, but it will have the feel and charm of the 1920's-1930's. Exposed cloth wiring, original accessories etc. Picked up a refurbed Lionel Z, it has that Art Deco look that will complete the scheme. I drew up the layout in AutoCAD to mess with the design. I am going to start to sell off most of my modern rolling still remaining and go all Prewar. I am keeping my MPC era stuff to keep my 70's childhood memories alive.

Great display.

Somebody needs a bigger cabinet.

Some time ago i have completed a pair of Marklin gauge One switches with electro magnets. Founded the control box which is a transformer you plug on 110v or 220v and it sends an impulsion of 25V to activate the magnets. Also add a pair of lamps and all is now with original clothed wires from Marklin.  Dates from around 1925-30.

Daniel

DANIEL: YIKES! Maybe TOO much authenticity and LESS safety concerns? 😐

George S posted:

ratpak posted:

Back on the farm

Ratpak,

Are these yours? They are wonderful dioramas! They look like museum pics.

George

Looks like the Porsche museum in Germany, here a other picture of them.

Arne

Yes Art, it was a time where the boys run live steam trains and high voltage trains, so different from today....

Daniel

Arne posted:

George S posted:

ratpak posted:

Back on the farm

Ratpak,

Are these yours? They are wonderful dioramas! They look like museum pics.

George

Looks like the Porsche museum in Germany, here a other picture of them.

Arne

If I knew they had trains, I would have made the trek to see them when I was there.

George

If it wasn't for my daughter flipping through the travel brochures in Salzburg I would have missed it. There were only about 20 Porsches not including the toys. I took the train from Salzburg to Bad Reichenhal then a cab to Anger to the museum. Lots of Tin toys then the Layout.....I'm glad I went.

ratpak posted:

If it wasn't for my daughter flipping through the travel brochures in Salzburg I would have missed it. There were only about 20 Porsches not including the toys. I took the train from Salzburg to Bad Reichenhal then a cab to Anger to the museum. Lots of Tin toys then the Layout.....I'm glad I went.

 

Oh, this isn't in Stuttgart, but in Anger? I wasn't near Anger.

George

Here are some photos from the archives of American Flyer's Wide Gauge set 1469  Frontier Town

Have a Great Tinplate weekend

Northwoods Fyer

Greg

Karl Bub small stations for train-sets, cleaned and repaired this week.

George S posted:

 

 

Oh, this isn't in Stuttgart, but in Anger? I wasn't near Anger.

George

It was described here before (with pictures): https://ogrforum.com/...29#60557904329602129

Regards

Fred

sncf231e posted:

George S posted:

 

 

Oh, this isn't in Stuttgart, but in Anger? I wasn't near Anger.

George

It was described here before (with pictures): https://ogrforum.com/...29#60557904329602129

Regards

Fred

I remember now Fred. Thank you! Still beautiful presentations!

George

Guys what great inputs

Fatma

n - the history surrounding those paperweights is priceless, what a find

SNCF231E - Trix twin rails set is quite something, the e_ arly days of smaller scales is not as well documented as it is for O

Jim Kelly Evans -Tinplate pictures (Marklin?) are superb, a real treat to see some of this classic material _

RatPack - Cattle car and ramp...Loved it...You know out here in Texas folks tell us that cows smell...well we tell them that they do smell, to us they smell like MONEY!

Arne - Karl Bub stations are super, thanks for sharing.

So what have i got today...well I have a Hornby M-1 Goods Set from about 1950 or so. Pictures are below.  It is very complete including track, connecting clips, a paper invitation to join the "Hornby Railroad Club" and even the inspection slip from the inspector who (according to his inspection stamp) packed and inspected the set.  The set also included two small lithographed "suitcases" with the Hornby name in the litho probably thrown in as play value to put in the cars.

Have a good weekend

Don

STD Gauge Freedom Train

Steve

Don McErlean posted:

Guys what great inputs

Fatma

n - the history surrounding those paperweights is priceless, what a find

SNCF231E - Trix twin rails set is quite something, the e_ arly days of smaller scales is not as well documented as it is for O

Jim Kelly Evans -Tinplate pictures (Marklin?) are superb, a real treat to see some of this classic material _

RatPack - Cattle car and ramp...Loved it...You know out here in Texas folks tell us that cows smell...well we tell them that they do smell, to us they smell like MONEY!

Arne - Karl Bub stations are super, thanks for sharing.

So what have i got today...well I have a Hornby M-1 Goods Set from about 1950 or so. Pictures are below.  It is very complete including track, connecting clips, a paper invitation to join the "Hornby Railroad Club" and even the inspection slip from the inspector who (according to his inspection stamp) packed and inspected the set.  The set also included two small lithographed "suitcases" with the Hornby name in the litho probably thrown in as play value to put in the cars.

Have a good weekend

Don

 

I always love the box-art-versus-contents aspect of toy train marketing...

Greg J. Turinetti posted:

Here are some photos from the archives of American Flyer's Wide Gauge set 1469  Frontier Town

 

Have a Great Tinplate weekend

Northwoods Fyer

Greg

I think I have those passenger cars.

George

Speaking of passenger cars, here is my Franken-Ives pulling some Ives cars.  This little guy pulls better than my 1122.

George

Store Display Globe - c. 1930

Don't recall the actual year and I am too lazy to look it up at the moment.  This globe is shown on top of a dealer display that was offered through the Dealer Catalog's somewhere around 1930 or so.  There are a couple of different styles of lights on these displays and I have only seen one other style (and only one example of that style).  This globe is relatively rare, but I have seen at least a half dozen of them over the years.  The one thing I have never seen is the shelving display that these globes were shown with in the dealer catalogs.

NWL

Busy few days here , Thought I might have nothing new for posting in this thread and now here I am with my third entry for the week ...

Just scored myself a nice Bandai No 414 train set from 1950 I believe ?

The box lid is the only imperfection I can see it what looks to be a rather mint set , I am unsure at this stage as to whether it is operable , but to my eye it looks  to have had minimal if any practical use .

I already have the Bandai Aerotrian Set but it came sadly without the controller , so this will rectify that lack in the collection albiet a different model Station house to the one here .

Bandai in their later train sets and indeed in their whole tinplate line became less realism based and more toy themed , for example the Atomic Armoured Train Set and even their santa fe representation ...

Although not "in Hand " yet it really appears that Bandai here was trying to put out a worthy set in terms of tinplate and design ? Just my opinion anyway ... Seems to be a decent quality?

Better shots of the loco and cars can be seen here at https://spur00.de/bandai

That was the only resource I found searching ... Anyone got one?

Fatman posted:

 

That was the only resource I found searching ... Anyone got one?

 

http://www.binnsroad.co.uk/railways/bandai/index.html

Regards

Fred

LOL !!!

I meant for that particular set Fred not just Bandai , I had already looked at Binns and a lot of my other resources, the Spur00.de was the only one I could find with the 414 set depicted

George S posted:

I think I have those passenger cars.

George

Hey George,  There are a number of variations on the orange cars.  You have to look closely sometimes to see the difference . For instance, in this case, your cars have no defined letterboards (just the names) and litho doors.... Gregs have operating doors and turquoise letterboards with the names...  both equally cool!

Great stuff!  I really enjoy the catalog pages then showing the real deal.  Kudos to Turinetti.  That is neat.

My layout might be coming up.  Time to make room on the dance floor.  Not sure about that yet.  Might have a few runs left in me.  I’ll add a video if inspired.

Enjoy the Super Bowl!       W1

Rob English posted:

George S posted:

I think I have those passenger cars.

George

Hey George,  There are a number of variations on the orange cars.  You have to look closely sometimes to see the difference . For instance, in this case, your cars have no defined letterboards (just the names) and litho doors.... Gregs have operating doors and turquoise letterboards with the names...  both equally cool!

Here are some comparisons of the the two sets that I have that illustrate what Rob is pointing out.

I think that there is another difference between George's cars and mine.  My set has black trucks.

William1 wrote:

"Great stuff!  I really enjoy the catalog pages then showing the real deal.  Kudos to Turinetti.  That is neat."

Thanks for the compliment. 

Have a Great Tinplate weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg