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Lionel standard gauge 408 / 408 / 402 triple header roaring around the layout.
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Freight cars from BLZ in France. They are from 1950, all original condition and in need of a serious cleaning, they belonged to a friend who got them around 1951-52 and have been abandoned since all those years. The car transport has been loaded with a french military truck made by Dinky Toys, a correct time period to match with the car.
Have a great tinplate weekend, Daniel
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it has been a few years since i added a new Flyer type to the collection and this past week i was lucky enough to find this pair, one of Flyer's first clockwork locomotives, and one of their last...
Type III, No. 0, was Flyer's first, small, low priced CI locomotive introduced in 1910. this is the 1915 production model. previous versions did not have the three rows of rivets. cataloged sets with this locomotive typically included a 328 tender pulling a single coach.
the motor does not match Schuweiler's description of having stamped steel wheels, but the one in this engine definitely shows signs of being an early model and with no drive rods being correct, i'm going to propose this is all original with the 10-spoke cast iron wheels. after a bit of cleaning, there is every indication it will be a great runner.
Type XVI, No. 40, (1931) was only cataloged for a single year appearing in two passenger sets. the motor is unfortunately the cheaper Hummer model and this one seems to be ungoverned, but it does work and often the drag of the locomotive itself is enough to give it some speed control. i'll have to see how it performs on the track. only a couple years short of its 90th birthday, i'm sure this one will still be doing a few laps occasionally when it hits the century mark.
cheers...gary
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Following up last week's photos of the beautiful, restored full size Wagons Lits Orient Express cars, here is a tinplate car that I found in the Orange Hall at York last month. It's a Maerklin Gauge 1 57 cm 1942J dining car (1932-8) with full interior. The 57 cm cars were the largest Gauge 1 passenger cars that Maerklin made.
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Jim Kelly-Evans posted:Following up last week's photos of the beautiful, restored full size Wagons Lits Orient Express cars, here is a tinplate car that I found in the Orange Hall at York last month. It's a Maerklin Gauge 1 57 cm 1942J dining car (1932-8) with full interior. The 57 cm cars were the largest Gauge 1 passenger cars that Maerklin made.
I love how the lamps are painted on the windows. I have seen the miniature lamps on later models. Really interesting.
George
Has anyone seen the “tunnel box” listed in the Ives catalog?
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scott.smith posted:Has anyone seen the “tunnel box” listed in the Ives catalog?
I have seen the tunnel boxes over the years, but do not own one. They show up on ebay occasionally.
NWL
John Smatlak posted:Lionel standard gauge 408 / 408 / 402 triple header roaring around the layout.
John (or anyone), who made that fencing? I'm interested in the type shown here in your photo but also the type shown in your video. Thanks.
MikeH posted:John Smatlak posted:Lionel standard gauge 408 / 408 / 402 triple header roaring around the layout.
John (or anyone), who made that fencing? I'm interested in the type shown here in your photo but also the type shown in your video. Thanks.
Good question- I've wondered about that myself. Neither of the fence types on my layout (this one is tinplate, the other type is cast) is from one of the major toy train makers. Of course it could also have been made for doll houses or other toys of the day. You see them both pop up on Ebay or at train meets- I found mine at train meets over the years.
Indeed, I see it frequently enough on layouts that I assumed one of the train manufacturers made it. Thanks.
MikeH posted:Indeed, I see it frequently enough on layouts that I assumed one of the train manufacturers made it. Thanks.
Looking through my photos from past online auctions I found it- the tinplate fence was made by JC Schrey, and the cast fence is apparently by Dent.
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John Smatlak posted:MikeH posted:Indeed, I see it frequently enough on layouts that I assumed one of the train manufacturers made it. Thanks.
Looking through my photos from past online auctions I found it- the tinplate fence was made by JC Schrey, and the cast fence is apparently by Dent.
Excellent. Thank you!
One more addition to the Dorfan collection
Have a Great Tinplate Weekend
Northwoods Flyer
Greg
Another American Flyer Oddity
In the 1931 dealer price sheet Flyer highlighted a series of low priced express sets. The steam engine in the set numbers 932 and 933 was a new electrified cast iron shell with the engine designation of 1084. The set came in a small box with track, and either a two passenger set (932) or a two car freight set (933). Neither set included a transformer which had to be purchased separately.
Dealer Price Sheet
Sometime during 1931 or perhaps 1932 Flyer offered the set #932T. The "T" designation indicated the inclusion of a transformer. That set also included an additional passenger car. One thing that catches the eye is the mismatched passenger cars. The 932 set has a coach and an observation with litho treatment that matches the observation in the picture of the 932T set. For whatever reason, 932T did not follow this practice and, on top of everything, also included a baggage car which did not match either of the other two cars.
The second thing I find interesting is the paint trim treatment of the #1084. Based on what I've seen, the mix of red and yellow highlighting seems to be associated with early production. At some point the yellow was replaced with red and still later the highlighting consisted of a single band of red paint across the cab windows and cab side. My assumptions concerning the above sequence is based on what I know of manufacturing processes - always striving to make things better, cheaper, faster. In this case a trend to simplification of painting trim.
Set 932T
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KUDOS especially to OF for that exquisite AF clockwork loco, and also to JKE for that beautiful Marklin Wagon Lits dining car!
A couple of late, uncataloged American Flyer illini sets, c. 1932
First with two-tone green 3115
Second with steam engine
Note the early dark green litho doors on the steam set and uncataloged 3357 locomotive.
These two illini sets are the latest variations of these cars, as evidenced by the trucks, which feature gray paint and spring detail.
seems to be a lot of Dorfan showing up lately.
No new Dorfan for me this week, but I did get a Lionel 820
Also Greg Turinetti graciously made a donation to my project parts box.
I'm already thinking of a repower for this Marx shell. I'm guessing that the hole in the side means this originally a clock work.
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Steamer posted:seems to be a lot of Dorfan showing up lately.
No new Dorfan for me this week, but I did get a Lionel 820
Also Greg Turinetti graciously made a donation to my project parts box.
I'm already thinking of a repower for this Marx shell. I'm guessing that the hole in the side means this originally a clock work.
No brake slot in the boiler so it was electric. They used the same frome for both, but not the boiler.
Steve
Thanks Prof! There'll be an apple on you desk 
Do you know the item #?
Steamer posted:Thanks Prof! There'll be an apple on you desk
898, came with a SR or DR motor. 1946-52
Steve
Robert S. Butler posted:Another American Flyer Oddity
...The second thing I find interesting is the paint trim treatment of the #1084. Based on what I've seen, the mix of red and yellow highlighting seems to be associated with early production. At some point the yellow was replaced with red ...
thanks for that information, Robert... i wondered why the hightlights on this loco seemed a bit different than their normal paint dabs....
cheers...gary
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Bavarian State Railways 4-4-4 from 1906:
Who says the Lionel 400E is un-prototypical?
PD
Dang, makes that Bing seem a lot less toylike doesn't it!!!!
New tinplate. MTH finally made the Gerber 2814R afterall!! Thank you Sidetrack HOBBIES. Also decided to get my first MTH tinplate loco.
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Dennis Holler posted:
New tinplate. MTH finally made the Gerber 2814R afterall!! Thank you Sidetrack HOBBIES. Also decided to get my first MTH tinplate loco.
What is this!?!? New shiny stuff? Obviously someone hacked Dennis Holler's OGR account!
Dennis Holler posted:
Who is this REALLY????????? 
Tom
Its so out of the ordinary! Lol the Gerber was only $50 so heck! Why not
Nice Dennis, new shinning tinplate is also nice when not expensive.
I just got an ETS car with different publicity printed on each sides for french mineral water, even if i am not a great fan of mineral water I have made an exception, the car is nice....
Daniel
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MikeH posted:Dennis Holler posted:
What is this!?!? New shiny stuff? Obviously someone hacked Dennis Holler's OGR account!
I could put a tinplate motor in it!
PD, yes Lionel's contribution could be viewed as somewhat prototypical...on the other hand Bing just looked out their window and copied what they saw. 
Bing 4-4-4 - Live steam O gauge
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Here it is at home on the layout
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Robert S. Butler posted:PD, yes Lionel's contribution could be viewed as somewhat prototypical...on the other hand Bing just looked out their window and copied what they saw.
Bing 4-4-4 - Live steam O gauge
Hey, Robert, that's a pretty faithful attempt for tinplate! Looks sharp. Here's a Hornby model of a more recent vintage:
PD
Dennis Holler posted:
Obviously it is one of two things going on here...the Russians have hacked Dennis's computer, or the more than likely, Dennis is a victim of alien abduction and has been replaced with an imposter.
I was gone all last week, I’m surprised my wife didn’t give you a call to come pick up a truckload!!!!!
pd posted:Robert S. Butler posted:PD, yes Lionel's contribution could be viewed as somewhat prototypical...on the other hand Bing just looked out their window and copied what they saw.
Bing 4-4-4 - Live steam O gauge
Hey, Robert, that's a pretty faithful attempt for tinplate! Looks sharp. Here's a Hornby model of a more recent vintage:
PD
There are a number of manufacturers that made models of the Bavarian S2/6, but I doubt that Hornby made one. The picture might be a Märklin H0 model?
Regards
Fred
