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I may have the opportunity to buy those Ives cars and caboose. It seems that they came in an original set as there is also an oval of Ives tracks. Unfortunately the engine is gone, and no transformer. Looking at the website of the Ives Society it seems that they are from 1911 series ; I didn't find the 67 caboose.

So questions, are they rare models, price is not too much, fifty bucks. Of course they will never be in perfect condition but after some TLC they can be saved.

I would be happy to have your opinion about them; many thanks;  Daniel

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I like them, certainly not an Ives expert, I don't remember seeing that color combo on the caboose, would be neat just for that.  The passenger cars are nice, wheels can clean up and probably wax/clean the litho a good bit. I think the early cars like that can cost a good bit.

Maybe you can offer them $35 or $40 and make the deal feel better

Dennis Holler posted:

Ok, it's all back to normal, I found an old Bing 8 wheel PRR caboose missing the rood and cupola....  First pic is what the roof looks like, should be able to make that...  Cupola might be fun though....  I used to the four wheel version but let it get away long ago.... I feel better now!!

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OK, we will cancel the intervention, for now. 

Tom

Dennis Holler posted:

Ok, it's all back to normal, I found an old Bing 8 wheel PRR caboose missing the rood and cupola....  First pic is what the roof looks like, should be able to make that...  Cupola might be fun though....  I used to the four wheel version but let it get away long ago.... I feel better now!!

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Maybe you can find a cupola from an Ives or American Flyer junk caboose? Cutting the windows would be a challenge, or you could paint them like the windows on the door.

George

FRENCHTRAINS posted:

I may have the opportunity to buy those Ives cars and caboose. It seems that they came in an original set as there is also an oval of Ives tracks. Unfortunately the engine is gone, and no transformer. Looking at the website of the Ives Society it seems that they are from 1911 series ; I didn't find the 67 caboose.

So questions, are they rare models, price is not too much, fifty bucks. Of course they will never be in perfect condition but after some TLC they can be saved.

I would be happy to have your opinion about them; many thanks;  Daniel

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Those are the longer passenger cars and are not very rare. In better condition, a three car set would bring over $120 US. The frames and litho look ok. There is excessive rust on the wheels. The roofs are usually missing paint. The clerestory  comes off, so you could just paint the roof. I don’t recall seeing them with tab couplers. Mine have Ives snake couplers. I have not seen a caboose in those colors.

George

George S posted:
FRENCHTRAINS posted:

I may have the opportunity to buy those Ives cars and caboose. It seems that they came in an original set as there is also an oval of Ives tracks. Unfortunately the engine is gone, and no transformer. Looking at the website of the Ives Society it seems that they are from 1911 series ; I didn't find the 67 caboose.

So questions, are they rare models, price is not too much, fifty bucks. Of course they will never be in perfect condition but after some TLC they can be saved.

I would be happy to have your opinion about them; many thanks;  Daniel

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Those are the longer passenger cars and are not very rare. In better condition, a three car set would bring over $120 US. The frames and litho look ok. There is excessive rust on the wheels. The roofs are usually missing paint. The clerestory  comes off, so you could just paint the roof. I don’t recall seeing them with tab couplers. Mine have Ives snake couplers. I have not seen a caboose in those colors.

George

Ahh, here is the caboose, about halfway down the page. It’s one of the earliest 67 series.

https://www.ivestrains.org/CD/...htmlfiles/No67_1.htm

George

Dennis Holler posted:

Ok, it's all back to normal, I found an old Bing 8 wheel PRR caboose missing the rood and cupola....  First pic is what the roof looks like, should be able to make that...  Cupola might be fun though....  I used to the four wheel version but let it get away long ago.... I feel better now!!

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just add a roof and call it a transfer caboose(?)

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Wow.... lots of great stuff this week !

I almost thought for the second week running I would have nothing new coming to post about .... but thankfully I was saved at the last minute

So I managed to lay my chubby little paws on some more USA rolling stock , but from the UK , So I am stealing it from them rather than my fine mates posting here from the States

First up a Lionel Baby Ruth 1679 boxcar

And a boxed Am Flyer ...

Nothing special to many here no doubt , but rather groovy to me

Any Idea on dates folks? I am thinking pre-war/40's But as you know American Tin is not my forte

 

Robert S. Butler posted:

Fatman, your American Flyer flat car with the lumber dates from 1938 - the one year they made those odd couplers.

Ahh thank you Robert ! ... Now isnt that just like me .. getting something that was made just the one year ... makes getting the rest with matching couplers  so much easier lololololol!

Fatman posted:
Robert S. Butler posted:

Fatman, your American Flyer flat car with the lumber dates from 1938 - the one year they made those odd couplers.

Ahh thank you Robert ! ... Now isnt that just like me .. getting something that was made just the one year ... makes getting the rest with matching couplers  so much easier lololololol!

The curly Q couplers are not too difficult to find here in the states. Hardest for me was the wrecker and searchlight.

Steve

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Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

The curly Q couplers are not too difficult to find here in the states. Hardest for me was the wrecker and searchlight.

Steve

The Wrecker and Searchlight....

Personally, I think the curly coupler on the boxcar with early colors is the hardest.

This is a product of AC Gilbert Co. converting existing Chicago stock to 1938 trucks and couplers.  The bottom of the car shows evidence of the old style couplers being pried off.  This came to me with the above cars, all in their original boxes, fresh out of a 46+ year hibernation back in 2013 (the story was that the trains were not played with after the owners moved in 1967).

I guess the tank car in any color other than silver tank and light green frame with 1938 couplers is also a bit tough.

Might as well finish off with the other cars that came in the same group.

 

Interestingly enough, all of these cars were separate sale items and came in their original boxes.  The estate they came from included a 1937 Hudson streamline passenger set with the 1937 style coupler on the tender.  Note the home-made wire coupler adapter on the crane car.  

NWL

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