Weekend tinplate photos 📸 and videos 📽 7/4/19!

Classic Lionel for the weekend, nothing better than a good old 42.  I have this one since a long time and it has lost her steps. Single motor and sliding doors, good running so as Joe Mania makes repro steps I think it is time to restore it, unfortunately the red paint has been touched up and i am not sure if I can remove it but I can leave with.

Have a nice weekend,   Daniel

Bing Schlitz Beer Reefer

Before Prohibition

After Prohibition

...and, even though it isn't tinplate...what the actual Schlitz car looked like back when billboard reefers rolled on US railroads.

Atlas Reefer

Kerming all der whay dowenn schouwph from Schunny Schweden ( ok ok its more a norwegian/dutch accent, but its hard to type the difference in scandi pronunciation) is my latest find ...

What I think is a Karl Bub Electric Outline Clockwork Loco?

Any info on definitive maker/ year etc gratefully absorbed ...

I found this small postal/bagage car last week on a swapmeet; it is not marked but the body is exactly the same as some Schuhmann cars I have, so it is AS (Adolph Schuhmann from Nürnberg):

I assume the roof is not original, but it makes a nice train:

The other two Schuhmann cars both have interior with some tinplate passenger:

Regards

Fred

Fatman posted:

 

Any info on definitive maker/ year etc gratefully absorbed ...

It has a nice French look to it; I will see if I can find something about it.

Regards

Fred

sncf231e posted:

It has a nice French look to it; I will see if I can find something about it.

Regards

Fred

I Concur Fred ... it certainly has a SNCF  "je ne sais quoi" about it

I guessed at Bub mainly due to the folded side over end construction I have seen in some Bub carriages?

It is definately German in origin tho

Just an old CV looking shiny on the Filing Cabinet Central

RSB: CONGRATULATIONS on your recent TCA Quarterly cover! Loved it! And those Bing beer reefers (bier wagens) are exquisite! THANKS for all your knowledge and sharing your treasures with us! BRAVO, Sir.

FRED: Especially love that Schuhmann Speise Wagen and coach with those metal painted figures! Exquisite!

Thanks for the compliment Tinplate Art.  If you are interested in the details I posted a how-I-did-it about the cover over on the Buy/Make Anything Cool Lately (Tinplate Version) thread.

Fatman - I think you electric is a Doll product.  I checked my Sammlerkatlog's and none of the various Bub couplers matches.  On the other hand, in the Band 8 which covers Kraus-Fandor, Doll, and Fleischmann on page 206 is a picture of a Doll Gepackwagen with couplers that exactly match yours.

Robert S. Butler posted:

Fatman - I think you electric is a Doll product.  I checked my Sammlerkatlog's and none of the various Bub couplers matches.  On the other hand, in the Band 8 which covers Kraus-Fandor, Doll, and Fleischmann on page 206 is a picture of a Doll Gepackwagen with couplers that exactly match yours.

The couplers are Märklin Fix couplers. As far as I know Doll made no clockwork trains.

Regards

Fred

Ok, so I guess the collector (sammler) catalog has mistakes too.

RSB: To err is human. I also found a few minor errors in the latest LGB Kompendium, Bild I und II, also done by Sammler I believe!

Finding those mistakes is kind of a perverse pleasure! LOL!

Fatman posted:

Kerming all der whay dowenn schouwph from Schunny Schweden ( ok ok its more a norwegian/dutch accent, but its hard to type the difference in scandi pronunciation) is my latest find ...

What I think is a Karl Bub Electric Outline Clockwork Loco?

Any info on definitive maker/ year etc gratefully absorbed ...

The seller had two of them, I had buyed the other :-)

This is no Bub and no Doll. Was made by Distler in the 30s. Was part of a set. The loco is the bigger model, the catalog shows only the smaller.

Arne

THANKS TO ARNE, Mystery solved!  ☺

The knowledge and reference base on this forum is impressive!

Happy belated 4th to all! Interesting additions have been hard to come by of late. Recent acquisitions include a Kibri station clock and an 0 scale metal switching tower. The tower is too perfect to be an original Marklin piece and there is no stamp under the base, but happy to have it none-the-less.

short Dorfan work train

Arne posted:

Fatman posted:

Kerming all der whay dowenn schouwph from Schunny Schweden ( ok ok its more a norwegian/dutch accent, but its hard to type the difference in scandi pronunciation) is my latest find ...

What I think is a Karl Bub Electric Outline Clockwork Loco?

 

The seller had two of them, I had buyed the other :-)

This is no Bub and no Doll. Was made by Distler in the 30s. Was part of a set. The loco is the bigger model, the catalog shows only the smaller.

Arne

Arne!!!

I feel so much better that I did not bid you up on the one you got then !!! ( I did think about it lol as yours finished earlier than mine )... I had a bit of confusion about them because the seller listed both in comments as not working , but on the one I eventually chose he stated that the clockwork worked on my one ? So I thought lets pay the extra and get one that at least might work LOL!!! I suspect it would only be something minor with a bit of luck ..

Thank you once again for sharing your awesome knowledge and I am proud to be a "Distler Twin" with such a fine companion

( I am betting postage was a bit kinder to you than me as well  LOL! )

Hello Fellow Tinplaters...

Here is my Hornby clockwork locomotive, my only clockwork piece. 

Tom 

MNCW posted:

Hello Fellow Tinplaters...

Here is my Hornby clockwork locomotive, my only clockwork piece. 

Tom 

Dear Tom .....

You need more ... many many more ... Mah-huh-huh-hawwwww <--- evil laugh

( But that lovely 101 Tank loco is a great place to start )

jhz563 posted:

Just an old CV looking shiny on the Filing Cabinet Central

There is a locomotive like that in a collection that I bought last week.  It has no identifying marks.  Is this a Marx locomotive ?

mlaughlinnyc posted:

jhz563 posted:

Just an old CV looking shiny on the Filing Cabinet Central

There is a locomotive like that in a collection that I bought last week.  It has no identifying marks.  Is this a Marx locomotive ?

Absolutely Marx.  Lots of folks here much more knowledgeable than myself.  Please post a picture if you can 

Fatman posted:

MNCW posted:

Hello Fellow Tinplaters...

Here is my Hornby clockwork locomotive, my only clockwork piece. 

Tom 

Dear Tom .....

You need more ... many many more ... Mah-huh-huh-hawwwww <--- evil laugh

( But that lovely 101 Tank loco is a great place to start )

Thanks for the advice!? 

Seriously, thanks for the comment on the loco. Good luck on your latest clockwork piece.

Tom 

Fatman posted:

MNCW posted:

Hello Fellow Tinplaters...

Here is my Hornby clockwork locomotive, my only clockwork piece. 

Tom 

Dear Tom .....

You need more ... many many more ... Mah-huh-huh-hawwwww <--- evil laugh

( But that lovely 101 Tank loco is a great place to start )

It's all he can do to get in the front door with all those Prewar switchers he has.......

Steamer posted:

Fatman posted:

MNCW posted:

Hello Fellow Tinplaters...

Here is my Hornby clockwork locomotive, my only clockwork piece. 

Tom 

Dear Tom .....

You need more ... many many more ... Mah-huh-huh-hawwwww <--- evil laugh

( But that lovely 101 Tank loco is a great place to start )

It's all he can do to get in the front door with all those Prewar switchers he has.......

Dave, First off you have to stop peaking through my front door.  By the (right-of-) way, sometimes other important things are by that front door, needed for day to day living...like a box of tubular track donated by a certain Forum member from Ohio. 

Also, that's the kind of "Fake News" that can get a guy in trouble at home. For example, a careful analysis of Lionel's prewar #228 switchers finds that I do not (currently) own more than 0.026666666666667% of the total production run of Lionel’s 15,000 #228’s. By the way, do you have any #228's to sell? 

Tom 

to celebrate the Chicago Century of Progress...

American Flyer offered this floor toy in 1933 for a limited time...

thousands sold? ... where did they all go??

i've only ever seen one other, including an original box(!!), and as i recall it sold for a price even too crazy for me...

$0.30 in 1933 would be ~$5.80 today.

cheers...gary

mlaughlinnyc posted:

jhz563 posted:

Just an old CV looking shiny on the Filing Cabinet Central

There is a locomotive like that in a collection that I bought last week.  It has no identifying marks.  Is this a Marx locomotive ?

there were many different Marx CV versions both electric and clockwork.
just a few... and one Merc...

Even Us Aussies have a crusty Marx lurking at the back lol

Fatman posted:

Even Us Aussies have a crusty Marx lurking at the back lol

You had your Dolphins which were near clones of the Marx CV.

Steve

The band is on the verge of getting tanked.

Steve

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

The band is on the verge of getting tanked.

Steve

Steve, 

  Tanks for the high caliber of humor!  

Tom 

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

Fatman posted:

Even Us Aussies have a crusty Marx lurking at the back lol

 

You had your Dolphins which were near clones of the Marx CV.

Steve

Correct ! However they were simple push floor trains ( even tho they had flanged wheels)

Sadly I do NOT have one .. still looking , but they command a chunk of change usually and do not come up too often ... However you will be pleased to know you have set off a brain worm in me trying to find/research one ... they do have a stamped dolphin mark , but I believe that is just a mark whacked in there by the maker who was perhaps WynToy or Boomaroo .. but I am coming up a blank looking for a pic on the web for them so I could be very wrong ? However in a bizarre twist of fate I just this very minute sniped a ROBILT clockwork locomotive at a VERY fair price ....

Robilt were an Australian toy maker who set up trade in 1946 after the war to address the shortage of toys due to aforesaid conflict ( as both Germany/Europe and the UK were our main source of toys pre-war ... but of course due to our good mate Adolf getting all puffy chested , toy manufacutring plants quickly got turned into armament or munitions supplier, or got bombed in the blitz! )

Unlike the USA or even the UK you have to remember that Australia in 1946 was a huge country and sparsely populated with only 7.4 million of us , so as you can imagine it wasnt a huge customer base, so it was a very risky operation by a coule of brave men is what was basically a terrace workshop not much larger than a fair sized garden shed LOL They pretty much made the first lot by hand and had it ready for Xmas 1946!  ... Despite the humble beginnings they went on to become Australias biggest post war toy manufacturer and ran through to the 60's before they diversified into other areas .. Great history at http://www.tcawestern.org/robilt.htm 

As such they are not "Rare" here ( but probably ultra super unicorn status compared to American "rare" status lol )  , but are well loved by collectors and go for good dosh, so it has taken up til today that this cheapskate got one

I am fairly sure this is an early 1950's model and should have come with the usual cylinder mouldings, but it was not rare for them to be removed if some rough handed kid bent the rods and they bound up or cracked the castings  ... nonetheless I am uber stoked to add a new bit of Australia to the collection

 ( Oh and thats a pretty "good" condition one !.. us Aussie kids were ruff on toys lol ! ... I have seen more worse thanthis as opposed to better , taking away "restored" examples   )

overlandflyer posted:

to celebrate the Chicago Century of Progress...

American Flyer offered this floor toy in 1933 for a limited time...

thousands sold? ... where did they all go??

i've only ever seen one other, including an original box(!!), and as i recall it sold for a price even too crazy for me...

$0.30 in 1933 would be ~$5.80 today.

cheers...gary

They were cheaply made and did not hold up well.  I have seen a number of them over the years, most heavily dented or bent, or lots of rust.  

I have seen 2 in original boxes and both sold for lots of money (I know both current owners).  I could have bought the second one at York a number of years ago, but I felt the price was too high for the condition.  It later sold on an auction for even more than it was being offered for at York.

A friend in the area picked up one that was not so nice and installed an electric motor in it.  It is pretty cool!

The last nice one I saw, I passed on as I wanted the set with this Pennsylvania car in it and figured I could not afford both.  Sadly, I was wrong and I picked this up with engine and tender for $175 plus buyer's premium and shipping, but the trolley sold a few lots prior to this car, so I could not bid on it at that point.

NWL

MNCW posted:

Steamer posted:

Fatman posted:

MNCW posted:

Hello Fellow Tinplaters...

Here is my Hornby clockwork locomotive, my only clockwork piece. 

Tom 

Dear Tom .....

You need more ... many many more ... Mah-huh-huh-hawwwww <--- evil laugh

( But that lovely 101 Tank loco is a great place to start )

It's all he can do to get in the front door with all those Prewar switchers he has.......

Dave, First off you have to stop peaking through my front door.  By the (right-of-) way, sometimes other important things are by that front door, needed for day to day living...like a box of tubular track donated by a certain Forum member from Ohio. 

Also, that's the kind of "Fake News" that can get a guy in trouble at home. For example, a careful analysis of Lionel's prewar #228 switchers finds that I do not (currently) own more than 0.026666666666667% of the total production run of Lionel’s 15,000 #228’s. By the way, do you have any #228's to sell? 

Tom 

well maybe you haven't cornered the market on 228s...but you haven't mentioned the possible horde of all the other model Prewar Switchers.......

How about some BIG o gauge tinplate?  All mth. Anyone willing to part with the matching baggage car!!?

My daughter was my train buddy again this morning. At her request the Halloween engine got some laps in. She wanted pictures with herself in them so I had her pose with the loco’s.  She enjoyed watching me navigate the inside track train to the outside for the pictures.

Fatman posted:

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

Fatman posted:

Even Us Aussies have a crusty Marx lurking at the back lol

 

You had your Dolphins which were near clones of the Marx CV.

Steve

Correct ! However they were simple push floor trains ( even tho they had flanged wheels)

Sadly I do NOT have one .. still looking , but they command a chunk of change usually and do not come up too often ... However you will be pleased to know you have set off a brain worm in me trying to find/research one ... they do have a stamped dolphin mark , but I believe that is just a mark whacked in there by the maker who was perhaps WynToy or Boomaroo .. but I am coming up a blank looking for a pic on the web for them so I could be very wrong ? However in a bizarre twist of fate I just this very minute sniped a ROBILT clockwork locomotive at a VERY fair price ....

Robilt were an Australian toy maker who set up trade in 1946 after the war to address the shortage of toys due to aforesaid conflict ( as both Germany/Europe and the UK were our main source of toys pre-war ... but of course due to our good mate Adolf getting all puffy chested , toy manufacutring plants quickly got turned into armament or munitions supplier, or got bombed in the blitz! )

Unlike the USA or even the UK you have to remember that Australia in 1946 was a huge country and sparsely populated with only 7.4 million of us , so as you can imagine it wasnt a huge customer base, so it was a very risky operation by a coule of brave men is what was basically a terrace workshop not much larger than a fair sized garden shed LOL They pretty much made the first lot by hand and had it ready for Xmas 1946!  ... Despite the humble beginnings they went on to become Australias biggest post war toy manufacturer and ran through to the 60's before they diversified into other areas .. Great history at http://www.tcawestern.org/robilt.htm 

As such they are not "Rare" here ( but probably ultra super unicorn status compared to American "rare" status lol )  , but are well loved by collectors and go for good dosh, so it has taken up til today that this cheapskate got one

I am fairly sure this is an early 1950's model and should have come with the usual cylinder mouldings, but it was not rare for them to be removed if some rough handed kid bent the rods and they bound up or cracked the castings  ... nonetheless I am uber stoked to add a new bit of Australia to the collection

 

 ( Oh and thats a pretty "good" condition one !.. us Aussie kids were ruff on toys lol ! ... I have seen more worse thanthis as opposed to better , taking away "restored" examples   )

 

I sold this pair of Dolphins to a fellow forum member a while back. Had them for years.

Steve