Weekend tinplate photos/videos 12/29/17 Happy New year!

Märklin made 0 gauge tinplate passenger cars in different sizes; here are a restaurant and a sleeper 8-wheel car in the medium size (24 cm). These have opening doors and an opening roof but my version has no interior:

Wishing you a good tinplate year-end and more tinplate in 2018!

Fred

picked up this 814, paint looks to be on the rough side so I'm thinking maybe a repaint, but I'll decide when it gets delivered.

 Happy a great and Happy New Year guys!

I have collected more Ives over the years than I have realized.  This is the Ives Set #570  - Yankee Clipper   -  from 1930.

Here is wishing you all a Happy and Blessed New Year filled with time to enjoy your collecting hobby.

Have a Great Tinplate weekend and a wonderful year.

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

To continue in the same spirit of Fred s post here is the passenger car for next year. A Marklin gauge one car with opening roof and compartments from 1920. Those cars where  all handmade and painted and they are a perfect symbol of Marklin quality.

Now to all my fellow tinplaters i wish you a great and healthy new year and hope to still share some new trains discoveries .

Daniel 

From the back pages of the 1931 American Flyer Dealer's Price Sheet  we have this uncatalogued #742 Express set with an IC #509 tender

Price Sheet (set illustrated in lower left)

...and the set itself

Dave McEntarfer posted some great photos on the "Other tinplate" Facebook page this week of American Miniature Empire Express coaches from the early 1910s. Yet another reason to love t-trucks!

Since Fred and Daniel brought up the subject of Marklin passenger trains with hinged roofs and interiors I thought that rather than wait until next Friday I'd go ahead and post some pictures of the Fandor version from the same time period.

Fandor Passenger Set

Fandor Speisewagen interior

  It is interesting to note that at one time the speisewagen had some passengers glued to a couple of the seats but they vanished before I purchased this set.

Fandor Schlafwagen Interior

  The mail car in the set also has a hinged roof and there are tab slots in the frame which would suggest an interior was available for this car as well.  

Marklin and Fandor = QUALITY!  :-)

Got my tender for my 262. 

Also got my 262 motor to install in the Ives electric engine.

George

Darn George, I really like those beer reefers, too bad mth canceled the Goetz one, I had it on order!

Dennis Holler posted:

Darn George, I really like those beer reefers, too bad mth canceled the Goetz one, I had it on order!

 

Thanks Dennis. Those were hard to find, and I paid standard gauge prices for them. I had the Goetz one on order too. Did they ever officially cancel it? Last I heard, they wanted more pre-orders. MTH also cataloged a beer train with 2800 series cars. I have not been able to find one. I am not sure whether it was actually made.

George

I have been working on restoring some Lionel standard gauge 200 series trucks that I am note sure what I will use them on.

I also received my first Dorfan Wide Gauge boxcar the day after my birthday yesterday from my wife. Awesome wife and awesome tinplate!

George S posted:

Dennis Holler posted:

Darn George, I really like those beer reefers, too bad mth canceled the Goetz one, I had it on order!

 

Thanks Dennis. Those were hard to find, and I paid standard gauge prices for them. I had the Goetz one on order too. Did they ever officially cancel it? Last I heard, they wanted more pre-orders. MTH also cataloged a beer train with 2800 series cars. I have not been able to find one. I am not sure whether it was actually made.

George

I think two beer trains were made way back in 2005-2008 timeframe.  One with beer reefers and one with tank cars. I remember your thread when you found those cars a while back. Your right, they are pricey, but they are really cool too 👍

Somehow I missed adding this photo to my earlier posting.  So here is the Ives Yankee Clipper in a profile shot.

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

I've had three 620/2620 searchlight frames on the shelf and have wanted to make one out of the three. I picked the 620 frame since I have Dad's 2620. Of course this was the body in the roughest shape, but some time with a hammer and some pieces of metal it straightened out pretty good. One frame had the hand rails, another the yoke.Need the latch couplers and brake stands. Don't know if I'll score a searchlight. but I'll find some use for the car till I do.

Took the Mrs to one of our antique malls, and brought these home. Thinking the 55  Tie Ejector chassis might get one of these bodies if I can find one cheap enough...

DOC,

   Thom your Tin Plate layouts are always top shelf, simply fantastic!

PCRR/Dave

For you gentlemen who have never visited DOC's Tin Plate World, you are really missing something incredible!

Thanks Dave

That picture was from a few years ago.

a big THANKS to Dennis Holler. I fired up the confuser this morning and had an e mail from Dennis, he found a searchlight for my 620 project.

Got both trains running on the Christmas floor layout. Added a couple of cars to the trains.

George

I see you found a motor for that 1694.  👍 Looks great, running smooth.

Here is a1940 or so Sears special set 8102W passing the recently worked 1942 1132W set.  The 8102W included a 229, 2689W 2613 2614 & 2615 all in two tone Green. The 1132W set included a 1664, 2666W , 2640, 2640, & 2641 also in two tone Green.  Both locos are the late prewar versions with rubber stamped numbers and the 2689W has the appropriate high coupler for the 2613 cars.  The same cars came in cataloged sets in 1940 only with the 226E, 763, & 263E.  Funny thing is that I have two sets and both came with the 229 from estate sales which may lend credence to the idea that Sears probably sold a lot more of their special sets than Lionel did of some of their higher end cataloged sets in this case.  The green cars are among my favorites.

I'm a Greenie at heart....

been thinking about doing a 229.....got a spare six drivered motor gathering dust....

Here's another set of what do I have photos - from the ods and ends of an estate collection.

First an unlabeled American Flyer 2-4-(4 ?).  It looks similar to the 403 in  the 1939 catalog, but the side and main rods are different.  What year and model would have that rod configuration ?

The second is an unmarked battery powered engine.  On the side of the magnet bracket is a diamond logo with KKK or K&K and it's stamped "Japan".  Any one recognize this ?

Second engine id Marx I think.   The Japan is the motor which came from there.  I am not sure, but possibly Marx contracted the loco made in Japan as well, I have read that Louis Marx was among the first to experiment with overseas production.  Others will have more details.  The AF loco is anearlier versionwith more detail. 

agree on the second shell sure looks like Marx.

The first engine is American Flyer - its wheel arrangement of 2-4-0 is correct as are the valve gear and connecting rods.  It is the engine for the uncatalogued Blue Streak set and the machinery behind the motor which takes up most of the cab space is a mechanical whistle.  According to the Greenberg Guide the engine was manufactured in the 1935 time frame and was listed in the Somer's catalog for that year.  The Blue Streak set was listed by Somer's in 1937.

Blue Streak Set

Dennis Holler posted:

I see you found a motor for that 1694.  👍 Looks great, running smooth.

I had visions of creating directional headlights but had to settle with having both illuminated. I think it would require a polarity sensing circuit, which I wasn't in the mood to figure out or build.

263E Work Train running on the new FasTrack over head layout in the new Train Room

PCRR/Dave

Thanks Robert.  As I now look more closely at the underside of the loco, I see the gearing and fins of the whistle.  I'll try it on my test track tomorrow and see how the whistle sounds.  Any thoughts as to what its value is ?

mlaughlinnyc posted:

Here's another set of what do I have photos - from the ods and ends of an estate collection.

First an unlabeled American Flyer 2-4-(4 ?).  It looks similar to the 403 in  the 1939 catalog, but the side and main rods are different.  What year and model would have that rod configuration ?

The second is an unmarked battery powered engine.  On the side of the magnet bracket is a diamond logo with KKK or K&K and it's stamped "Japan".  Any one recognize this ?

 

 

From the Marx 591 family. Battery powered.

Steve

More on that AF Blue Streak locomotive.  I ran it this afternoon.  It's a real jackrabbit !  It was hard to get it to run slow enough to not fall off the curves on my O gauge test loop.  So I ran it on my large test track which is O-72.  I think it's the fastest thing I've ever had running there.  It gives random toots as it goes along.  Can you imagine a ten year old engineer of the 30's entertaining his mother and sister running that around the Christmas Tree, tooting without end - no control.

Greenburg Guide - Robert Butler m,entioned this.  Is there a Greenburg book that is a really good reference for American Flyer O.  It seems that every early postwar Lionel collection that I get has one or more AF O gauge items, so I ought to have some reference material.

  There is a very good Greenberg Guide to American Flyer O gauge unfortunately it is out of print and it is my understanding that there is no hope of a re-run.  From time to time the book does show up in the American Flyer subsection of toy trains over on e-bay and it is usually expensive. 

  The best publicly available reference is the thread "Pre-War American Flyer Pictures - An Invitation" started by Greg Turinetti over on another forum. 

Right now there is a copy of it on ebay selling for $75 Buy it Now.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/GREEN...d:g:0JMAAOSwa81aOCEh

It isn't mine.  I use my copy frequently and while it has its flaws it is still the best resource in print. I recommend it.

Northwoods Flyer 

Greg

The thread is the work of many collectors and contributors.  It will soon celebrate 10 years being online.  It too has its flaws, but if you don't mind doing some hunting it has great information and photos.

It's a great book, I also have one and use it often.

Greg J. Turinetti posted:

Right now there is a copy of it on ebay selling for $75 Buy it Now.

 

I'd also recommend this book highly and $75 is a pretty good price - I wish I could have gotten mine that cheap!

Thanks to all of you for the advice.  I just bought  that GB AF guide on eBay.

About that photo thread.  How can I find it  ?

Compared to Lionel the AF S gauge is boring to me.  But I'm finding the AF prewar O guage to be very interesting.  In my shop queue right now are a 401 restoration and two green 3171 Pullmans looking for roofs.

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http://cs.trains.com/ctt/f/95/t/116423.aspx

MLAUGHLINNYC, regarding the running qualities of your engine - what would you expect for an engine that was head end power for a train with the name "Blue Streak" ????