Weekend tinplate photos/videos 4/20/17!

A combination of four chrome McCoy passenger cars and a repro American Flyer 4689 Mayflower. Now dubbed the McFlyer set. The loco was originally a 4686 Ace, but I found the 4689 Mayflower shell and trim on the bay and converted it.

Steve

Last week at a swap-meet in Netherlands I found this 0 gauge American Flyer set of 3 cars. It is very rare to find that kind of thing here. 

The coach and observation both have number 1206 and name Seattle. I wonder, did they have a separate catalogue number to distinguish them?

Here is a run with a American Flyer 401 as pulling power. I do not know whether that is a correct combination, but it looked good to me.

Regards

Fred

beautiful stuff guys.

got both of my new to me 7" Marx cars converted to 3/16 trucks. And since the 1684 motor I got for my 259E project didn't have the headlight like the original did, I found a Marx light bracket in the parts bin and adapted it.

sncf231e posted:

Last week at a swap-meet in Netherlands I found this 0 gauge American Flyer set of 3 cars. It is very rare to find that kind of thing here. 

The coach and observation both have number 1206 and name Seattle. I wonder, did they have a separate catalogue number to distinguish them?

Here is a run with a American Flyer 401 as pulling power. I do not know whether that is a correct combination, but it looked good to me.

Regards

Fred

The 401 definitely works for me, but I have seen the 1205 baggage and 1206 Seattle coach paired with a 3012 loco.

Soulis Auction:

Also with a 1218 and the 1206 Seattle Observation substituted with a 1207 Chicago. Obs. for the Chicago Milwaukee and St. Paul set, however the 1206 Coach had the railway name above the windows instead of American Flyer Lines.

Ralston auction from last month:

Some nice little tinplate trains from JEP. They are the most economic ones produced from 1925 at a time the more sophisticated electric models where not afordables to everybody.

Those little trains runs on a smaller gauge than O, i find they have a lot of charm....

As usually, have a great tinplate weekend         Daniel

Hi Gang,

I tried to upload a video of Dirk Hertel's Bing Midland Single running on my layout with no success. So you'll have to make do with regular photographs.  Enjoy.  Lew Schneider

Picked up a Chein/Flyer Toy Town station this week

Also a decent Marx Deluxe truck load that needs a grille, axles and wheels.

and this 3-car HWN passenger set

lewrail posted:

Hi Gang,

I tried to upload a video of Dirk Hertel's Bing Midland Single running on my layout with no success. So you'll have to make do with regular photographs.  Enjoy.  Lew Schneider

I think this is the video Lew is referring to.

Steve

https://youtu.be/PLMMmCaH9Hs

After seeing others Mid '20's Flyer passenger cars, I had to drag out mine to share. The coaches re a year or two older that the obs and baggage car, as they have the older style, slightly taller trucks. Have not had the good fortune to aquire an appropriate AF engine. I use a Marx powered home brewed loco to pull my train.

really liking those small Flyer passenger cars

The first page of the catalog...first with trains that is...American Flyer 1922

 Set #53 - top left

Great pic so far everybody!     

Fred.   I didn't realize you are from the Netherlands.   My wife has a couple of good friends from there.  

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

lewrail posted:

Hi Gang,

I tried to upload a video of Dirk Hertel's Bing Midland Single running on my layout with no success. So you'll have to make do with regular photographs.  Enjoy.  Lew Schneider

I think this is the video Lew is referring to.

Steve

https://youtu.be/PLMMmCaH9Hs

Many   thanks Steve. Don't understand why I couldn't upload it. 

Lew Schneider

sncf231e posted:

Last week at a swap-meet in Netherlands I found this 0 gauge American Flyer set of 3 cars. It is very rare to find that kind of thing here. 

The coach and observation both have number 1206 and name Seattle. I wonder, did they have a separate catalogue number to distinguish them?

Here is a run with a American Flyer 401 as pulling power. I do not know whether that is a correct combination, but it looked good to me.

Regards

Fred

Fred, Very nice finds especially considering where you live. Hope you got a good price.

I've enjoyed watching trains run on your outdoor layout whenever you post. I think your set-up is pretty spectacular. Can you talk a little about the construction, the overall size, how long ago you built it, the track used and any issues of rust, etc.? Also, I remember seeing some vintage tinplate rolling stock bouncing along...anything ever get damaged in a derailment?

Tom 

Time for me to stop just looking and to contribute. Here is an early 1950s Zeuke streamliner that I picked up from one of my favorite dealers in Germany last year. Even had the box too. Miketg 

Sorry I posted the same post twice, just cleaned it up. Miketg

Thanks for the great photos again this week folks.  My Saturday morning coffee goes great with Tinplate.

Fred,

Congratulations on finding a very nice set of Flyer Cars. I enjoyed the video.  I have always focused my collecting efforts on putting together equipment as it appeared in the catalogs. When you matched up the cars from the early to mid 1920's with the #401 from the 1930's it looked great.  It also got me started thinking (which is always dangerous).  First of all I pulled out my set of cars that are like yours:

(BTW yours are in much better condition than mine)

and a second set of cars from the same era.

First I replicated the set you assembled for your video.

And then I started to get creative, using other engines from different eras and sets

You know,  this collecting trains and playing with them is a lot of fun!

Now if I could get to some of the bigger train shows here in the States I might just find some European trains to add to my collection.  (Oh no!  That sounds like a very expensive proposition )

Thanks again folks for another great show.

Have a Great Tinplate weekend.

Greg

Northwoods Flyer

Miketg...that engine looks great! And Greg, those boxcabs are getting to me, gonna have to get serious and start the hunt. I've spotted a couple nice fixer uppers, but they all needed wheels, and those double the price. 

and this just in (thanks mail lady!)

my recently aquired 259T for my 259E.didn't even waist time to clean it before I snapped some pics.

Two gun metal gray O gauge prewar American Flyer streamlined steam engines compared ... A "Chicago" Flyer No. 1688, a Gilbert Flyer 3/16" scale No. 553, and both paired with Mr. Barclay.

Bob

MNCW posted:

sncf231e posted:

 

Fred, Very nice finds especially considering where you live. Hope you got a good price.

I've enjoyed watching trains run on your outdoor layout whenever you post. I think your set-up is pretty spectacular. Can you talk a little about the construction, the overall size, how long ago you built it, the track used and any issues of rust, etc.? Also, I remember seeing some vintage tinplate rolling stock bouncing along...anything ever get damaged in a derailment?

Tom 

Thank you, Tom,

Something about the construction of my outdoor layout: 

Around 1990, when I moved into my current house, I had some Gauge 1 live steam trains so made sure the new house had a back garden waiting for a Gauge 1 track. A friend designed a layout construction. I planned to have a double track oval. Total track length is 30 meter per track (60 meter total). I use Tenmille track (nickel silver bullhead rail) which is floating on ballast in a metal gutter. The gutter is resting on a metal construction with metal poles such that track is at about 75 centimeters from the ground. The metal construction and gutter was being built by a construction workshop; they took care of galvanizing the substructure which shows after more than 25 years still no rust. The Tenmille track is especially made for outdoor layouts and needs no maintenance, except for cleaning the railheads be fore a run. Four bus wires, one for each of the two rails of the two tracks, run through the ballast, and to each fishplate a wire is soldered which is clipped on to a bus wire. I later started to think about adding a gauge 0 track to my garden railway. At first I made plans to add a separate parallel track between my two gauge 1 tracks but found that there just wasn’t enough room. So I thought of adding an extra rail to one of my tracks, making a dual gauge 1/0 track. Since I also have some gauge 0 3-rail trains I also added yet another rail as third rail for 0 gauge. So I drilled small holes in all sleepers and added 2400 chairs and 60 meter of rail to the inner loop of my layout. Recently I added another 30 meter of nickel silver bullhead rail and some 1200 chairs to the outer loop so I can also run S gauge trains. 

Regards

Fred

sncf231e posted:

MNCW posted:

sncf231e posted:

 

Fred, Very nice finds especially considering where you live. Hope you got a good price.

I've enjoyed watching trains run on your outdoor layout whenever you post. I think your set-up is pretty spectacular. Can you talk a little about the construction, the overall size, how long ago you built it, the track used and any issues of rust, etc.? Also, I remember seeing some vintage tinplate rolling stock bouncing along...anything ever get damaged in a derailment?

Tom 

Thank you, Tom,

Something about the construction of my outdoor layout: 

Around 1990, when I moved into my current house, I had some Gauge 1 live steam trains so made sure the new house had a back garden waiting for a Gauge 1 track. A friend designed a layout construction. I planned to have a double track oval. Total track length is 30 meter per track (60 meter total). I use Tenmille track (nickel silver bullhead rail) which is floating on ballast in a metal gutter. The gutter is resting on a metal construction with metal poles such that track is at about 75 centimeters from the ground. The metal construction and gutter was being built by a construction workshop; they took care of galvanizing the substructure which shows after more than 25 years still no rust. The Tenmille track is especially made for outdoor layouts and needs no maintenance, except for cleaning the railheads be fore a run. Four bus wires, one for each of the two rails of the two tracks, run through the ballast, and to each fishplate a wire is soldered which is clipped on to a bus wire. I later started to think about adding a gauge 0 track to my garden railway. At first I made plans to add a separate parallel track between my two gauge 1 tracks but found that there just wasn’t enough room. So I thought of adding an extra rail to one of my tracks, making a dual gauge 1/0 track. Since I also have some gauge 0 3-rail trains I also added yet another rail as third rail for 0 gauge. So I drilled small holes in all sleepers and added 2400 chairs and 60 meter of rail to the inner loop of my layout. Recently I added another 30 meter of nickel silver bullhead rail and some 1200 chairs to the outer loop so I can also run S gauge trains. 

Regards

Fred

That's fantastic ! You got me wanting to get live steam now.  I would love  to have one engine that I could run on my standard gauge layout.

I think, here is a meeting of the American Flyer 1205 and 1206 trains this week .  As add, Flyer Chicago train meets Bing Chicago train.

Arne

Bob Bubeck posted:

Two gun metal gray O gauge prewar American Flyer streamlined steam engines compared ... A "Chicago" Flyer No. 1688, a Gilbert Flyer 3/16" scale No. 553, and both paired with Mr. Barclay.

Bob

I had never realized that the American Flyer "Torpedo"  2-4-4 had the 1688 number. So did the Lionel

2-4-2 Torpedo.  Coincidence?  Lew Schneider

Well... If we are going to make this a CM&St.P weekend then we might as well go all in...

American Flyer - Solid Shield Baggage

Bing - Baggage Car 

American Flyer - Gondola

New Marx - Hybrid Dump Car

New Marx - Prototype Dump Car

sncf231e posted:

MNCW posted:

sncf231e posted:

 

Fred, Very nice finds especially considering where you live. Hope you got a good price.

I've enjoyed watching trains run on your outdoor layout whenever you post. I think your set-up is pretty spectacular. Can you talk a little about the construction, the overall size, how long ago you built it, the track used and any issues of rust, etc.? Also, I remember seeing some vintage tinplate rolling stock bouncing along...anything ever get damaged in a derailment?

Tom 

Thank you, Tom,

Something about the construction of my outdoor layout: 

Around 1990, when I moved into my current house, I had some Gauge 1 live steam trains so made sure the new house had a back garden waiting for a Gauge 1 track. A friend designed a layout construction. I planned to have a double track oval. Total track length is 30 meter per track (60 meter total). I use Tenmille track (nickel silver bullhead rail) which is floating on ballast in a metal gutter. The gutter is resting on a metal construction with metal poles such that track is at about 75 centimeters from the ground. The metal construction and gutter was being built by a construction workshop; they took care of galvanizing the substructure which shows after more than 25 years still no rust. The Tenmille track is especially made for outdoor layouts and needs no maintenance, except for cleaning the railheads be fore a run. Four bus wires, one for each of the two rails of the two tracks, run through the ballast, and to each fishplate a wire is soldered which is clipped on to a bus wire. I later started to think about adding a gauge 0 track to my garden railway. At first I made plans to add a separate parallel track between my two gauge 1 tracks but found that there just wasn’t enough room. So I thought of adding an extra rail to one of my tracks, making a dual gauge 1/0 track. Since I also have some gauge 0 3-rail trains I also added yet another rail as third rail for 0 gauge. So I drilled small holes in all sleepers and added 2400 chairs and 60 meter of rail to the inner loop of my layout. Recently I added another 30 meter of nickel silver bullhead rail and some 1200 chairs to the outer loop so I can also run S gauge trains. 

Regards

Fred

Fred, Thanks very much for all the details on your construction of your layout. That looks pretty darn sturdy. Keep posting those videos! 

Tom 

You guys know a thing or two about my affinity for Marx 6" tin and also the refresh I did on that old clockwork CV. If you've watched for a while, I've gotten further and further away from the Lionel plastic stuff and deeper into tin with the addition of a host of Marx goodies including a tunnel and minty control tower. It wasn't just Marx though, there was that very sharp, complete Hafner set, and then this Mecanno Hornby #40 reversing clockwork. It's just interesting. Tin, for me gives the best "play factor" with the noise and shine of the cars and buzzy old locomotives or dingy clockwork bell. Don't need to spend thousands of dollars on the best and brightest when the locomotives smoke without smoke units!

At the TCA Western Division meet today I brought out my equipment to do free DCS 6.0 updates for folks attending the meet. Afterwards I had fun running convention and command tinplate from my worktable across the hall. We also had a Dorfan Tank Car consist and a McFlyer on the meet loop. Lots of tinplate today!

Looks like someone has cornered the market on Dorfan Std tank cars!  Love it!!!!

Chris Lonero posted:

Hi gang. This week I have a video of an original American Flyer wide gauge Shasta I totally restored from the ground up. It has a Timco can motor with the bell ringer. I may add sound to it eventually. Now let's see your tinplate!  

Very attractive set Chris.

Joe Gozzo

Rob Shaubach posted:

Looks like someone has cornered the market on Dorfan Std tank cars!  Love it!!!!

Rob, I have more on the way. I think 10 is a good place to stop. I love tanker trains.

Steve

"I can stop anytime I want to......." does Southern California have a tinplate rehab?

Trainlover160 posted:

Chris Lonero posted:

Hi gang. This week I have a video of an original American Flyer wide gauge Shasta I totally restored from the ground up. It has a Timco can motor with the bell ringer. I may add sound to it eventually. Now let's see your tinplate!  

Very attractive set Chris.

Joe Gozzo

Thanks Joe. I love the bell and how the movement is in sync with it and you can turn it off with the lever on top. I can only do a few laps of it before it starts to drive me a little nuts!  

Chris,

You ain't joking. That dinging sound after a while can drive most nuts!!  

Sunrise

lewrail posted:

Bob Bubeck posted:

Two gun metal gray O gauge prewar American Flyer streamlined steam engines compared ... A "Chicago" Flyer No. 1688, a Gilbert Flyer 3/16" scale No. 553, and both paired with Mr. Barclay.

Bob

I had never realized that the American Flyer "Torpedo"  2-4-4 had the 1688 number. So did the Lionel

2-4-2 Torpedo.  Coincidence?  Lew Schneider

FLASH!!1  Just learned from a friend that the AF 2-4-4 Torpedo was numbered 1668 not 1688.  Close

to the Lionel version but no cigar.