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We have seen some tinplate beer reefers from various makers on the forum. The French toy train makers of course did not make beer reefers, their reefers were for milk. But they did make wine cars! Here a JEP and a Hornby France wine car. I do not know why they were red, maybe this type was used for red wine; the Hornby version mentions Bordeaux wine.

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Fred

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It has been a busy week, and it looks like a busy weekend ahead; so this week we make a visit to the archives.

This is American Flyer's Set #1469  - Frontier Town

This is the catalog illustration.  It came with quite a few accessories.

This is my example of the set; assembled over a number of years.  As Robert Butler pointed out a few weeks ago, it is almost impossible to take a photo that shows the set as it is pictured in the catalog. 

I don't have any Wide Gauge track set up at the moment, so no video this week. I hope to have at least a loop of 5 rail track like Papa Eastman and others on the forum have.  I predict that will finally happen when retirement comes. (Unless of course USA track decides to sell 5 rail track some day.)

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

Greg J. Turinetti posted:

It has been a busy week, and it looks like a busy weekend ahead; so this week we make a visit to the archives.

This is American Flyer's Set #1469  - Frontier Town

This is the catalog illustration.  It came with quite a few accessories.

This is my example of the set; assembled over a number of years.  As Robert Butler pointed out a few weeks ago, it is almost impossible to take a photo that shows the set as it is pictured in the catalog. 

I don't have any Wide Gauge track set up at the moment, so no video this week. I hope to have at least a loop of 5 rail track like Papa Eastman and others on the forum have.  I predict that will finally happen when retirement comes. (Unless of course USA track decides to sell 5 rail track some day.)

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

Greg, can you use Hoge 5-rail?

 

Picked up a few Non Pareil and Hafner freights this week.

8-wheel 53264 Gondola, 8-wheel D37350 hopper and 168917 Santa Fe and Southern 4-wheel boxcar

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This is only the third time I have seen the Santa Fe available and once was in the Non Pareil book. Mine has been converted from balloon wheels to o-gauge wheels. Have not taken photos since I unpacked them. This one with the proper wheels was at a Stout auction in 2014.

168917 boxcar stout 3-8-2014

buncha different Hafner tank cars, also got the orange 1010 Phillips tanker with these. 15731 phillips 66 tanker w 1010 tankers

 

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Tinplate Art posted:

WOW! GREAT start to this thread with very colorful selections! Did not know about the Unique switch tower until this morning! Especially love the wine cars and the AF clockwork set and station by RSB. 

I probably had about 20 of the Unique towers pass through my hands before acquiring a good one that I used to upgrade a boxed set. When I sold the set, I got about $150.00 bump for the working tower.

Steve

Greg, the things one doesn't notice until way after the fact.  I was looking at your catalog illustration of the Frontier Town set and I realized the passengers for that train are, apparently, expected to go in the back door of the station whereas the passengers for the Bluebird get to go in the front door.  Obviously, American Flyer thought more of O gauge passengers than they did of Wide Gauge passengers. 

Frontier Town - back door

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Bluebird - front door

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AF #96 - back door

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AF #96 front door

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Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:
Tinplate Art posted:

WOW! GREAT start to this thread with very colorful selections! Did not know about the Unique switch tower until this morning! Especially love the wine cars and the AF clockwork set and station by RSB. 

I probably had about 20 of the Unique towers pass through my hands before acquiring a good one that I used to upgrade a boxed set. When I sold the set, I got about $150.00 bump for the working tower.

Steve

The one I got isn't great, but I paid less than $10 for it so it's ok for me.

 

I got my AF whistling billboard. I don't think mine has lights. I have never seen them so don't know where to look.

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Mine has a label instead of the insert I have read about. Is the label original or aftermarket? It has two wires (yellow and green). I know some had three wires. Maybe the third wire is for units with lights? There is a slot in front of the sign, so it would be easy to put it over a light to illuminate the sign. I have not tried the whistle yet but doubt I will have trouble getting it to work.

George

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beachhead2 posted:
George S posted:

I know some had three wires. Maybe the third wire is for units with lights? There is a slot in front of the sign, so it would be easy to put it over a light to illuminate the sign.

George, this one has three wires.  Yes, the slot in front is for the lights to shine up on the sign.IMG_4546IMG_4547

Yours looks like a label too. I definitely don't have lights, but the holes are in the frame if I want to add them now that I see how yours are mounted. You are very lucky with your paint and label condition! Mine has more paint nicks and scratches.

George

Jim O'C posted:
Greg J. Turinetti posted:

It has been a busy week, and it looks like a busy weekend ahead; so this week we make a visit to the archives.

This is American Flyer's Set #1469  - Frontier Town

This is the catalog illustration.  It came with quite a few accessories.

This is my example of the set; assembled over a number of years.  As Robert Butler pointed out a few weeks ago, it is almost impossible to take a photo that shows the set as it is pictured in the catalog. 

I don't have any Wide Gauge track set up at the moment, so no video this week. I hope to have at least a loop of 5 rail track like Papa Eastman and others on the forum have.  I predict that will finally happen when retirement comes. (Unless of course USA track decides to sell 5 rail track some day.)

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

Greg, can you use Hoge 5-rail?

 

Jim,

I have never seen any of the Hoge 5 - rail track.  Is it dual gauge; O and Wide?  I am expecting to have to make my own like other folks have.

 

Robert S. Butler posted:

Greg, the things one doesn't notice until way after the fact.  I was looking at your catalog illustration of the Frontier Town set and I realized the passengers for that train are, apparently, expected to go in the back door of the station whereas the passengers for the Bluebird get to go in the front door.  Obviously, American Flyer thought more of O gauge passengers than they did of Wide Gauge passengers. 

Frontier Town - back door

BackSide_96

 

Bluebird - front door

FrontSide_96

AF #96 - back door

AF96_Backscred

 

AF #96 front door

Flossmore_96_1933red

 

Robert, 

You don't think that Flyer had a bias for Narrow Gauge do you?    Nice catch. I always find it interesting to see the interpretations that the artists placed in their work.

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

Hello all, just thought I'd mention Gargraves is making 5 rail track for any two gauges wanted. A friend is helping me bend and install it on one of my 2 loops that at present are on standard gauge. Bending it to 72 inch has not been hard. We cut a peice of plywood to the radi and use clamps to bend the track to the desired curve. The track is sandwiched between the two peices of plywood that we squeeze together. Gargraves gentleman on the fone told me bending to 52 inch has been done and after working with it I can see it's not so difficult.

Last year I purchased this Sakai (Japan) EB5783 loco. It is a three-rail electric boxcab in a 4-6-4 wheel arrangement. When it arrived the reverser would only chatter but the engine would not move. This morning I removed the motor from the shell, cleaned up the brush boxes and re-soldered a loose wire, and now it runs great. It will however need some new brushes at some point; and interestingly they are rectangular instead of circular as on most of my engines. 

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I couldn't stand that terrible quality reproduction label on my 577. I found a hi res image online, printed it on photo paper, removed the old label and glued the new one on.

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I also had to make new mounts for the whistle and install those.  Much better!

Lastly, I found some very cool magnetic signs online and bought a couple. I'll show those when they arrive.

George

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George S posted:

I couldn't stand that terrible quality reproduction label on my 577. I found a hi res image online, printed it on photo paper, removed the old label and glued the new one on.

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I also had to make new mounts for the whistle and install those.  Much better!

Lastly, I found some very cool magnetic signs online and bought a couple. I'll show those when they arrive.

George

You can buy 8.5 x 11 magnetic printer sheets and make your own as long as you have the metal back.

Steve

John Smatlak posted:

Last year I purchased this Sakai (Japan) EB5783 loco. It is a three-rail electric boxcab in a 4-6-4 wheel arrangement. When it arrived the reverser would only chatter but the engine would not move. This morning I removed the motor from the shell, cleaned up the brush boxes and re-soldered a loose wire, and now it runs great. It will however need some new brushes at some point; and interestingly they are rectangular instead of circular as on most of my engines. 

Sakai EB5783 loco 5

Hello John,

this is a great train. Has the Sakai loco a matching coupler for the Bing tank car or is it changed?

And the model behind the locos, ist that a coal elevator?

Greetings from Germany

Arne

Arne posted:
John Smatlak posted:

Last year I purchased this Sakai (Japan) EB5783 loco. It is a three-rail electric boxcab in a 4-6-4 wheel arrangement. When it arrived the reverser would only chatter but the engine would not move. This morning I removed the motor from the shell, cleaned up the brush boxes and re-soldered a loose wire, and now it runs great. It will however need some new brushes at some point; and interestingly they are rectangular instead of circular as on most of my engines. 

Sakai EB5783 loco 5

Hello John,

this is a great train. Has the Sakai loco a matching coupler for the Bing tank car or is it changed?

And the model behind the locos, ist that a coal elevator?

Greetings from Germany

Arne

Hi Arne,

  The next time you make one of your hand-made tinplate beauties, any chance that you can record it and share your process from start to finish?

Tom 

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