Weekend tinplate photos/videos 6/30/17

The trains made by L R in France, aka Le Rapide are very specifics, they are a little low sized compared to others but are very well made, heavy tin, well engineered motor parts and the use of wood for tracks geaves them a specific appeal among collectors. Unfortunately the paint used was not the best quality and without any primer it tends to flack. The models pictured below are from the beggining of production around 1927-28 and are high voltage ones running with 60 volts.

The 2D2 type loco even has the correct number of wheels and it was in her time a very modern and powerfull locomotive. 

One of the most successfull models was the type of loco nicnamed "boite à sel" (salt box) not really representative of a real existing model but it has been produced during a long time, to the end of LR trains in 1956 with a lot of variations. The one illustrated is the first model.

And a variation from 1935,

A side by side comparison of the firsts models,

Have a great tinplate weekend, Daniel

Since I acquired a new LR (Le Rapide) locomotive this week I was already planning to show some LR. This is a good match with Daniels pictures, I think.

After WW II LR made a number of steamliners loosely based on the famous French SNCF 232R and 232S 4-6-4 express locomotives. These LR locomotives had cast bodies. The first were a couple of simple tank type locomotives in 0-4-0 for the clockwork and 0-4-2 for the electric version. The electric version is not catalogued and apparently only made for a couple of years after WW II. The clockwork version has catalogue number 111L and appears in catalogues until 1954.

As can be seen in  these locomotives were of a tank type but you could wonder where they kept the water. According to knowledgeable people from the French train collectors society CFE the uncatalogued 0-4-2 electric version also came with a tender and just last week I found this version. So here you see the tank locomotive version next to the tender locomotive version. The tank locomotive has buffers and is closed at the back.

And here is the loco with its tender:

And here is a video of a run with the clockwork version with some later, plastic, LR coaches:

Regards

Fred

Fred, that is nice, you have founded a not comon variation of the LR tank loco. The tender on your model is based on the pre war body used for the Flèche d'Or train with modern die-cast bogies. Maybe it was the opportunity to use old parts in stock. Just after this one, 1949-50, LR has used another model of tender, more "modern" i have one in my collection but in not very good condition.

Just after 1950 the tender was coupled with the  442 or 221 die cast model. It has been manufactured in green and black. Also made without smoke deflectors.

It is funny but it seems it is LR weekend for both of us....

Very best,  Daniel

FRENCHTRAINS posted:

Also made without smoke deflectors.

 

It is funny but it seems it is LR weekend for both of us....

Very best,  Daniel

Daniel,

I do have the version of the 221 without smoke deflectors in green:

And as normal with LR there is some paintloss. But it does run:

Regards

Fred

Our trip to England and France is at an end.  We return to the USA to find a complete 1685, 1687 Lionel ex Ives 3 car train set with original paint.  Note that the first coach has an original different paint scheme and number.  The set is pulled first by the  Lionel 226E and second by the streamlined 1688.

great pics as always guys. Those European trains are amazing, thanks for sharing.

1879 took a small work train out today to help get some run time. Got a few bugs worked out, and ran better the more it was out.

Have not bought much here at the convention, but this pair  Dorfan 789 passenger cars were very nice and the gentleman was in a dealing mood, so they will soon be on the way to meet me in CA.

Steve

I like those Steve. Now I really wish I had gone to the convention...oh well..look down when you fly out, some of the flights from Greater Pittsburgh goe over my house...I;ll be the one waving!

AF Set #6 - 1918 - catalog

The real thing

Other than some 200 series truck frames, the only trains I've bought besides the Dorfan coaches is this Mexican Marx (Plastimarx) freight set. Quite a hard one to come by. This is a duplicate for me, so I will cherry pick and sell off the duplicates. The main thing I wanted was the tender. My other set came without one, so I made my own. Nice to have it correct. The guys price was pretty good already and he came down another $30.00. I think he was happy to meet someone who actually knew what it was.

Steve

I apologize for the unclean layout, but with all the LR above here are some more LR passenger cars I bought earlier this year.  I don't have an engine for them just yet, but they seem to look ok behind the AF 559 Pacific. Again, thanks to Daniel and Fred for their help and knowledge when I was trying to pick up some French trains!  Sooner or later I'll find an LR engine to go with these I hope.

it was a special honor to have my lti Milwaukee Hiawatha running on the sgma layout that the tca convention,,,,,i almost need to be hit with the paddles

Helping a coworker with his childhood trains, a Lionel 252 set. Engine does run but needs to be re-wheeled to last another 90 years. To bad its summer and train shows are hard to come by to look for parts so it may take some time to get on track again. I think I will just paint the frame for the loco but pretty much leave things alone just clean and shine what I can.  Anyone know a good source for Lionel prewar wheels?

Pre-war wheels: Hennings or Jeff Kane

Don

those are my two choices.

Thanks for the info, hopefully I can get the disk type not the spoked.

Happy and safe Fourth!

Lately I find myself being interested in Ives trains.  So recently I picked up a nice 3 car passenger set in buff.

My resources on Ives are not very thorough but I think that these cars came with an electric outline engine in 1926 -1927.  I don't have an Ives engine in buff, but I do have a spare Ives tender.  I matched it up with the cars when they arrived.

I don't have a spare #1122 steam engine to go with the steamer so I paired it up with a #423 American Flyer engine.

Both of the coaches are marked "Made in The Ives Shops"

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

nice find Greg. I've got one Ives transition car, and one genuine Ives car. Keeping a lookout for more.

terry hudon posted:

it was a special honor to have my lti Milwaukee Hiawatha running on the sgma layout that the tca convention,,,,,i almost need to be hit with the paddles

Where did the DD-1's come from.  Awakening old memories.  I used to see them on the LIRR from the window of my uncle's apartment in Queens.

terry hudon posted:

it was a special honor to have my lti Milwaukee Hiawatha running on the sgma layout that the tca convention,,,,,i almost need to be hit with the paddles

Paddles?

Bob Nelson

yes to shock me back to life

Greg J. Turinetti posted:

Lately I find myself being interested in Ives trains.  So recently I picked up a nice 3 car passenger set in buff.

 

My resources on Ives are not very thorough but I think that these cars came with an electric outline engine in 1926 -1927.  I don't have an Ives engine in buff, but I do have a spare Ives tender.  I matched it up with the cars when they arrived.

I don't have a spare #1122 steam engine to go with the steamer so I paired it up with a #423 American Flyer engine.

Both of the coaches are marked "Made in The Ives Shops"

Have a Great Tinplate Weekend

Northwoods Flyer

Greg

Greg

I highly recommend you join the Ives Train Society. http://www.ivestrains.org/

In the members only section is a matrix for determining what came in most known sets. You can search by engine type or car type.

Steve "Papa" Eastman

Thanks Steve,

I have been on that site many times.  In fact I have it bookmarked now. I guess its time to join. The information that I have gleaned from the site has been very good.

Greg