Weekend tinplate photos/Vidio's 9/30/16! "Photos added"

Greetings and happy tinplate weekend all. 

My contribution this week takes the form of an inquiry. While going through a box of my father's equipment, I found this lamp post with a group of readily identifiable Lionel street lights. This particular piece has no identification printed on it. Would anyone have an idea regarding its manufacturer or estimated time frame of production? Thanks in advance. 

Bob

Not positive but it looks like a Marx lamp post to me but I'm certainly no Marx expert.  

The previous weekend Lew showed us some Danish Wittrock trains (which were unknown to me until then); when I saw the loco I noticed the similarity with a Belgian Gils loco I have. I assume it is coincidence; I cannot imagine that Gils new Wittrock or the other way around. Anyway, here are some pictures of a Gils locomotive and some cars. The cars are lithographed tinplate.

Gils was made from 1941 till 1965; the locomotive shown here was introduced in 1948. Gils trains were 3-rail electric in a special way; The outside rails were isolated and when power was supplied to the left and the middle rail the train went forward an when power was supplied to the right and the middle rail the train went backward. All cars have isolated plastic wheels. The rail in the pictures is not Gils rail, I have none. But I can run Gils in the garden:

Regards

Fred

CNJ 3676 posted:

Greetings and happy tinplate weekend all. 

My contribution this week takes the form of an inquiry. While going through a box of my father's equipment, I found this lamp post with a group of readily identifiable Lionel street lights. This particular piece has no identification printed on it. Would anyone have an idea regarding its manufacturer or estimated time frame of production? Thanks in advance. 

Bob

I'm thinking Noma.

Steve

Hello tinplaters,

Today i will show you an uncomon JEP train made for Germany during the second world war.

France was occupied and many factories had to work for Germany, it has even been the fact for toy train manufacturing..... 

So JEP produced a clocwork train for the german market, a specific model. As you can see the engine is similar to a classic french model but with a german style marking KF3. It also has steel embossed wheels, no zamack ones due to restrictions of materials.

The pullman car is a classic one but without mention of the SNCF french railways just an indication of class. Also with steel wheels.

The luggage van is more special, it is green so different color of the classic grey model and it bears a german Deutch Reichsbahn marking on each side with PWG for Pack Waggen. So a specific model made for the german market.

At the end of the war, there where a stock of those specific models in Jep factory but as you can imagine they could not be an easy sale with those markings; so Jep modified the german mark with a touch of green paint to hide the german symbol and sold them to the french market. Nothing was loose....

On the right you have the german model and on the left the one modified for the post war french market.

Nobody has any idea of quantities produced, certainly not very high, this train was of a lower quality but it was war time.  

That is a little story of toy train production.

Have a nice tinplate weekend,    Daniel

A wealth of knowledge here this week. Really like the look of the Gils, although I must say their coupling system is unique to say the least. The only Gils I have seen previously is a photo of this one passenger set

I enjoyed Daniel's information on the German-made JEP trains also. Should I be scratching the green paint off my luggage van? Kidding of course.

If you are a collector you know how difficult it can be to limit your collecting activities to specific goals and areas. If you have the “collector gene” you know how nigh unto impossible it is not to wander outside of your chosen collection limits. I discovered this years ago. My collecting energies were originally limited to American Flyer S gauge.   After a while I expanded to American Flyer Pre War O and Wide gauge; “Just so I could have a representative example of the other things that Flyer produced” The 9 years since then have been a wonderful time of learning and research and acquiring trains in those categories. During that time I discovered the products of the major competitors of American Flyer. I also started to do some exhibits and demonstrations locally. I had a novel thought : I should have some examples of those other manufacturers “Just so I could have a representative example of what Flyer’s competitors produced.”   I’m sure you can see where this is going. 

My offering this week is one of those wanderings into other manufacturers.

This is a Wide Gauge Ives set from the transition era.

I spotted it on ebay and I knew it would be a great example to add to the collection. I didn’t know a great deal about Ives Wide Gauge so I started my research. If you haven’t visited the Ives Train Society website I encourage you to do so.   It is a wonderful resource and a great place to spend some hours doing research.

From what I can tell this is a Tiger set from 1930. It is Outfit #1071. Obviously from the transition era, it has a Lionel designed engine and I believe the brass railing on the Observation is also Lionel designed.

The Tiger set came with the 3236R Engine, and a #185 Parlor Car and a #186 Observation.  

 My set came with an extra #185. The wear on both Parlor cars matches the condition of the other cars in the set. I am tempted to believe that they have been together all of their lives.   There was a 3 car set offered in 1929 – Outfit #1082, but it has a matching   #184 baggage car.  So you can probably figure out what car I am looking for.

If any of the folks who know their Ives better than I do would like to comment I would love to hear from you.

Greg

Northwoods Flyer

Bob, I think those simple, green steel arc lamps with the green phenolic or bakelite sockets are quite old. Illustrations (line drawings) in Voltamp catalogs ca. 1910 show this type of lamp design, although Voltamp did not catalog them. In addition to the "Big Four" early American 2" gauge manufacturers (Voltamp, C&F, Knapp and Howard,) the Electoy Company of New Jersey marketed electric trains for a short time in the early years of the 20th century. However, Electoy trains are No. 1 gauge, not 2" gauge.  Here are photos of an Electoy freight set that I acquired at one of the ATMA shows in Allentown, PA a couple of years ago. A good write up abotu Electoy can be found here: Electoy

Guys, this has to be the most global of the forums on OGR!  Great to see all the tinplate from around the world!

George

Jim Kelly-Evans posted:

Bob, I think those simple, green steel arc lamps with the green phenolic or bakelite sockets are quite old. Illustrations (line drawings) in Voltamp catalogs ca. 1910 show this type of lamp design, although Voltamp did not catalog them. In addition to the "Big Four" early American 2" gauge manufacturers (Voltamp, C&F, Knapp and Howard,) the Electoy Company of New Jersey marketed electric trains for a short time in the early years of the 20th century. However, Electoy trains are No. 1 gauge, not 2" gauge.  Here are photos of an Electoy freight set that I acquired at one of the ATMA shows in Allentown, PA a couple of years ago. A good write up abotu Electoy can be found here: Electoy

Jim,

Where did you get the track?  I assume that is a different rail spacing than Std Gauge. 

George

George,

Yes the spacing between the rails for No. 1 gauge is 1-3/4" vs 2-1/8" for Standard gauge. While no one is making 1 gauge tinplate track here in the US to my knowledge, vintage 1 gauge track made by Ives, Maerklin and Bing can sometimes be found. The new 1 gauge track in my photos and the video below came from Europe. This video shows my Electoy set in operation. The locomotives are usually found not in operating condition with blown apart motor commutators. The locos are difficult to disassemble and repair. It took me a while and a lot of effort, but I got this loco running again with an assist from the Motor Doctor, who repaired the commutator.

ETS reefer:

PD

had my Streamliners out today. have a 221 boiler on the way for the next project.

Sorry I've been absent for the past few weeks... the weather has been nice, so I have been outside playing with the "Big Tinplate":

Latest project...

This week I'm taking it a bit easy. I've chosen 4 interesting "non current" photos, but I think you will enjoy them.

One shows a close up of 4 of my Bing super clockwork locomotives.  A second shows one of my cabinets containing Hornby, Wittrock,  and even a common postwar SNCF JEP.  The third shows the layout  emphasizing the 1931 Hornby Lattice Girder Bridge, an interesting piece using Meccano parts which graced the Hornby catalogues from 1921 through 1934.  Finally there is a beautiful picture of my "North Wall" plexi-glass cabinet taken by a friend a few years ago.

Lew Schneider

A pair of Dorfan's

Here is an LCT 384E PRR Passenger set

Chris Lonero posted:

hi guy's.  sorry about the delay but Photobucket was acting up on me again!   Let's get the party started anyway and I'll catch up! OK. here is a set of ore cars I got from a forum member that I repainted to add to my work train and what work train is complete with out a tool car? This one was made from my MTH standard gauge tool box. Let's see your tinplate! 

Nice!Here is an LCT 384E PRR Passenger set

In keeping with the tinplate from around the world theme - here's a KBN set made for the American market.

I have always liked this set.  Very nice! 

Happy Friday  everyone .  I had fun firing up the Boucher 2500 for some test running going around and around.  Even with a 80" circle  the Pacific would like to play on a larger radius .  The Boucher rail seems to be a thinner gauge than the big boys ( Lionel, Ives, Flyer )  and seems to be more prone to bending over the years ... I'll need to make a track gauge to fine tune the gauge as the 6 drivers with a long wheel base does not like narrow rail pinch points. The 2500 is a large engine ..the envy of the "big"3  who were standardized with a 42" circle  that the 6 wheel drive would never negotiate.

Cheers Carey

man I want one of those!

Chris Lonero posted:

I have always liked this set.  Very nice! 

Thanks Chris it took me 10 years to locate the set it is a very special set to me because I helped a friend acquire one right before he passed away he fell in love with my tinplate and since he was from Pennsylvania originally he wanted something with that road name and so I helped him get this set.

This set has PS3 so I will enjoy it for a very long time and think of him when running it thanks to my wifeWill be looking for add-on passenger cars now

Joeg

Original 385E/385W with a strong whistle.

Priceless...

Here is a little Marx and American Flyer running. The Marx is the Monon pulling some 3/16 old marx freight and a Marx 666 pulling some new Marx freight with a old Marx caboose I put a light in. The American Flyer is being pulled by 2 Lionel switchers as the only American Flyer engine I have is a little 1121 switcher and tender that I need to make a adapter for link couplers on the freight cars. Always enjoy everyone's photos and videos so let's see I can get this video posted here. 

Luv me some 384.

Feel the thunder.

She's a people lover, people mover, mostly.  Likes lace curtains on the windows and hot coffee for the crew.  Leave that messy freight haulin to the 385s and 1835s.  She's high steppin, high class all the way.  Hammer down girl...

Now to find the green one.

Steve

Trainlover160 posted:

Here is an LCT 384E PRR Passenger set

I have the set also with an extra car. Me and my train buddies love it, but the audience at shows seems to prefer the more brightly colored trains.

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

Trainlover160 posted:

Here is an LCT 384E PRR Passenger set

I have the set also with an extra car. Me and my train buddies love it, but the audience at shows seems to prefer the more brightly colored trains.

I can understand that Steve, but I have always felt it was a classy looking set with the passenger car colors.

JoeG