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I love that fireball logo to c.sam.  My Western Maryland roster includes a Challenger, Russian Decapod, shay, 2-8-0 consolidation, A-B-A sets of F3's and FA's (I don't think WM had B units for these though), VO1000 switcher, S-2 switcher, GP35, and SD40.  A GP9 is coming soon!

 

I don't have an answer for you Henry.  I know during that weekend, they were shoveling coal by hand. 

Making all that smoke, I feel sorry for the guy that has to clean the fire at the end of the day.

 

As a "steam guy" I REALLY do not like photo charters. They are very hard on the engine, with wide swings of boiler temperature. You go from stopped to wide open to stopped again in 3 minutes. The best fireman in the world cannot prevent massive temperature swings when forced to run like that.

 

And the SMOKE! The photographers aren't happy unless you make a lot of smoke, even though that is a sign of bad firing technique.

I rode in the cab of 734 and operated GP30 502 last weekend...the engine does have a stoker. According to forum member Ed Mullan, who met us at the station, it was installed right around 1999/2000. It came from China. 

 

Strongly recommend coughing up the $200 for a cab ride to Frostburg and back...what a ride that was! Hope to do it again before the summer is over. 

Originally Posted by OGR Webmaster:

Making all that smoke, I feel sorry for the guy that has to clean the fire at the end of the day.

 

As a "steam guy" I REALLY do not like photo charters. They are very hard on the engine, with wide swings of boiler temperature. You go from stopped to wide open to stopped again in 3 minutes. The best fireman in the world cannot prevent massive temperature swings when forced to run like that.

 

And the SMOKE! The photographers aren't happy unless you make a lot of smoke, even though that is a sign of bad firing technique.


The smoke (which some railroads DO tend to overdo) on photo charters tends to be minimized when operating in colder weather.  The two-fold advantage is that you get a lower sun angle which tends to make for better lighting.  The secondary advantage is the cold air condenses the steam, so you get the appearance of steam without wasting a lot of coal.

 

The phototographers tend to want the smoke to show movement and dramatics in the picture, but there is a very fine line between putting on a show, and the often-present "Burning of Rome" style of photo runby.  See said advantage for cold-weather photo charter.  You won't stop the temperature swings, but it is a way to minimize the coal usage and overfiring that would otherwise be "suggested".

Kevin

Originally Posted by toddstrick:

I never fired a steam locomotive. So how do they make all the black smoke? Just keeping feeding fuel to the fire? If yes would this make a big mess of unburned fuel? 

 

Thanks


Rich and others could explain better, but yes.  Overfiring creates the smoke, and most of the coal goes straight up the stack.

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