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Buying traditional/non-scale before I truly appreciated "scale". Then selling them off too-too cheap. 

Buying all of the FasTrack to build my attic layout and then selling it NIB for $0.50 to the $1.00 when I decided to switch to GarGraves/Ross.

Assuming that "I don't care" is an implied permission to buy something as simple as Glenn Snyder shelves. They never made it into the house and are currently in a land-fill.

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Oh and another mistake that was not totally my doing alone.  When I was maybe seventeen or so, I really wanted a Super 8 movie camera, with a projector and screen.  The set of pre-war Lionel my parents bought used for my brother and I when we were about 10 and 7 respectively, was traded for a movie outfit.  The trains consisted of a scale steam switcher and three Madison passenger cars, a tin 4-4-2 w/Vanderbilt tender and three red tin passenger cars, numerous freight cars, a 4x12 platform with two ovals of track, switch tracks, Tin Lionelville station, signals, Z transformer, and Plasticville buildings that we had bought ourselves.

Sometimes we just don't think things through.  The movie camera and projector were replaced with newer models when I was in the Navy.  The originals are long gone.  The last time I pulled out the reels of film to watch them was about thirty-five years ago.  

So post-war trains are still around and running.  All of that other technology is too much for us to be bothered with these days.  

Farmer_Bill posted:

Buying too many engines that were out of reach as a kid and suddenly affordable as an adult.  

$100 here and there soon adds up to real $$$ that might have been invested elsewhere.

And not completing a layout to run them all (though there’s still time for that). 

 

Ditto!  I always wanted my grandpas engines!  Now that I can afford them myself I buy them and wonder “why the heck did I want this?!”

I've been in this hobby a very long time ... and THE biggest mistake ever was buying MTH PS-1 locomotives.  The ensuing debacle made me leave that certain brand.  

I do, however, have to include a positive:  joining TCA/TTOS way back when as well as meeting the greatest toy train guy ever ... Hank Schmidt who owned a train shop in Santa Clara, CA, back in the early '70s.  Sadly, Schmidty passed before the end of that decade.  

A few things quickly come to mind -

Expecting O by today to evolve into the same detail level as H.O. If you ever looked through a Walther's catalog, you'd see what I mean. EX: Properly sized scale and period era scale vehicles still has not been addressed even today. One cannot quickly gather all the components to build a layout. Many items have to be hand made. The O industry needs to develop a one stop shopping with layout in a box.

Choosing Gargraves toy tubular track. "I've learned a thing or two" 

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I only regret not getting back into this hobby sooner.

Im grateful I listened to Dale at Dale’s Trains in Norfolk, VA when he told me two things;

1. He said this stuff is REALLY expensive so be sure what scale, gauge and quality you really want to buy. Educating myself and reading this forum really saved me tens of thousands of dollars.

2. Dale also told me the the most important thing; THESE ARE TOY TRAINS! It doesn’t matter how much ballast, weathering, painting, building or sound-proofing you do, it is still a toy train. Whether it’s a simple loop of track or a grand layout, I love seeing trains run and my biggest kick is when a small child or an older soul sees the train run they get that look of wonder and joy. 

I was recently set free of that (it doesnt look right) frustration when I accepted the fact that these are expensive toys that make us happy and not trying to make it something it will never be. For that reason my eyes have been opened to the joy of tinplate trains cuz they don’t pretend to be anything but toys.😃

 

Mark Gannucci posted:

 

 

2. Dale also told me the the most important thing; THESE ARE TOY TRAINS! It doesn’t matter how much ballast, weathering, painting, building or sound-proofing you do, it is still a toy train. Whether it’s a simple loop of track or a grand layout, I love seeing trains run and my biggest kick is when a small child or an older soul sees the train run they get that look of wonder and joy. 

I was recently set free of that (it doesnt look right) frustration when I accepted the fact that these are expensive toys that make us happy and not trying to make it something it will never be. For that reason my eyes have been opened to the joy of tinplate trains cuz they don’t pretend to be anything but toys.😃

 

Well said. My wife often says, you get to a certain point how much better is it going to be? Sometimes I believe we try and make them do too much, and certainly a lot more than they were originally meant to do. This is a great hobby and nothing else.

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PaPa Steve,

   As I reread the thread I happened to notice your post on letting in to much plastic.

I think this happens to the best of us Tin Plate guys, however I do not view this as a mistake, just a pleasant learning experience, that is if you purchased the correct plastic!

However no matter what plastic you purchased, it's never as good as the Tin, and IMO never will be.

PCRR/Dave

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1. Going with an o-60 max radius instead of o-72. When I started I was running all semi-scale stuff so it wasn't an issue.

Then I aquired the taste for scale size and detail. All the semi-scale stuff was sold off.  The only good thing is maybe the smaller radius has saved my pocketbook....nah.  Instead of one $1000  loco I'd probably buy two $500 locos anyway.

2. Not learning enough about MTH's control system before going "all Lionel" while constructing my layout. I'm still contemplating on adding DCS, but I'm fearful my wiring could create signal issues with it.

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My biggest mistake since going into "O" from "N", it also made me distrust any further having upgrades done, and soured me and almost made me give up "O" and go to "HO" instead. Was trusting someone to upgrade an engine my wife bought for me to get started. Then I realized how easy it was to upgrade myself.

It still sours me, but with the Forum, I'm enjoying "O" more so now.

In August of 1997, Davis Trains in Milford, Ohio offered K-Line RB, B&B heavyweight baggage cars at $34 out the door.  I bought six.  At the time I was in my NYC heavyweight passenger train phase.  The six cars were sprayed Pullman Green.  Later, some were sold and others were painted for different railroads.  John in Lansing, ILLK-Line hvywt baggage repaint to NH

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Accepting a new employment position that turned out not to be as advertised.  Terrible work environment and demands.  I've worked for several best in industry organizations, this is not one of them.

It requires a massive amount of longer hours to achieve success than expected leaving ZERO TIME or ENERGY to focus on the O gauge hobby.

Boo hoo.  I've spooned the tears of self pity out of my coffee and I'm networking to land elsewhere.

Need to get back to the rails!!

 

 

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1. Selling my trains that I had as a kid - in particular the train set that my Aunt gave me for Christmas when I was 8 years old.

2. Selling off HO scale to get to N Scale then selling N Scale to get back to O gauge then move to S Scale, then back to O gauge. etc etc. 

3. Buying used JUNK on ebay ... what a deal but after the costly shipping...well it adds up and Hindsight is always 20/20

RickO posted:

1. Going with an o-60 max radius instead of o-72. When I started I was running all semi-scale stuff so it wasn't an issue.

Then I aquired the taste for scale size and detail. All the semi-scale stuff was sold off.  The only good thing is maybe the smaller radius has saved my pocketbook....nah.  Instead of one $1000  loco I'd probably buy two $500 locos anyway.

2. Not learning enough about MTH's control system before going "all Lionel" while constructing my layout. I'm still contemplating on adding DCS, but I'm fearful my wiring could create signal issues with it.

Rick, Eric's Trains runs both MTH DCS and Lionel Legacy on his layout. I think he has a tutorial on his YouTube channel on how to avoid that or how to wire it up so it doesn't do it.

"Getting into Command Control"

No - if Command Control - specifically TMCC - hadn't come along, I would have been gone long ago; poor-running locos and F-N-R standing at a transformer was really getting on my nerves. Still does.

"3. Buying used JUNK on ebay ... what a deal but after the costly shipping...well it adds up and Hindsight is always 20/20"

My experiences on eBay have been 180 degrees in the other direction - and I've bought most of my stuff there in the last 15 years. (If the s/h is too high, don't buy it...) I don't buy anything that raises any red - even light red - flags.

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My personal greatest error would have to be, considering how much of this stuff I like, which generates purchases that at this point have largely ended but have been excessive over time, getting into this hobby to begin with. The unfocused should not do it; this stuff is big. I don't impulse buy, but a wide range of prototypes do fascinate me, so...too much stuff and I can't enjoy most of it. 

Pine Creek Railroad posted:

PaPa Steve,

   As I reread the thread I happened to notice your post on letting in to much plastic.

I think this happens to the best of us Tin Plate guys, however I do not view this as a mistake, just a pleasant learning experience, that is if you purchased the correct plastic!

However no matter what plastic you purchased, it's never as good as the Tin, and IMO never will be.

PCRR/Dave

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Dave;

Your photo reminded me of one of my many mistakes (or as I prefer to call them, character building exercises) over the years... I bought a number of things that I planned on using when I finally built a permanent layout. Two of the biggest items were bridges - the Rockville Bridge and the Hellgate. As my design progressed, I had to eliminate an elevated section which would have incorporated the two bridges (fortunately, I was able to use the 213 lift bridge in the final design). I'd still love to find a way to use the Hellgate - it is just too cool, but my final design has three parallel loops of Fastrack, so I don't think it will fit. As mine is packed away and not easy to access, could you tell me if the opening is wide enough for two tracks of Fastrack to fit on the bridge???

Thanks

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