Anything NASCAR. They couldn't give them away before, why do they think it will be any different now?
More than 30 pages.
I wish Lionel would go back to a separate traditional catalog and then one for the high end and scale stuff. One of each per year PLEASE!
Originally Posted by PC9850:
Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by KevinB:
Scale engines which are offered only Conventional.
Confusing. Who offered "scale engines" with ONLY conventional control?
Lionel experimented with a few. The ones I remember were a Santa Fe F Unit and some USRA 0-8-0s.
The 2-6-0 come to mind and I want to say they offered the 4-6-0 (as seen in Legacy) in Conventional.
I have a Legacy-era Atlantic, a Mogul, and two 0-4-0 Shifters, all essentially scale and all conventional rather than Legacy. I'd buy everything in conventional if I had to, since conventional is all I run, but frankly the extra money is worth it to me because the Legacy versions come with cruise which is really nice to have, and have a a bit more detail (two cab figures rather than one, etc.). As far as I care, Lionel can make all its locos Legacy as long as Legacy locos run as well as they do now in conventional. I'd prefer they do that rather than make special versions of scale locos in non legacy, then they could put that effort into making more different loco models. An ATSF 2900. Bring out a Legacy Veranda turbine, and that Stalin-era Russian, non-articulated steamer with 14 drivers would be fun. . .
Originally Posted by Lee Willis:
My wife threw it - not through a window but out into the trash when I was at work one day.
I really liked that brick - it was handsome
Jerry
From time to time in a cycle, the tinplate goes back on their shelves and I run recent stuff. What I don't want to see is what I have seen before, again and again.
If the best they can do for something new and different are fantasy schemes or NASCAR, or overly complicated re-do's of the same old models, or putting new paint on a old model, in my book, thats either coasting or in neutral as far as progress and supposedly new product is concerned.
Are not the RTR Lionel FT's close to "scale"? Amd they are usually Conv.
Was that an MTH brick or a Lionel brick? Did Lee's wife throw it out because the electronics wouldn't work? (better hide your engines!)
Things I don't want, or don't want to see in the next catalog?
Things I don't want:
Scale trains, licensed trains, NASCAR trains.
Things I don't want to see:
Trains that don't sell.
Jon 
