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Originally Posted by Rapid Transit Holmes:

"Thank god its the R44's last stand  Hunks of junk."

 

Dear Blueliner,

 

The Westinghouse versions were junk but the GEs were just fine... until "rebuilt" by NYCTA.

Dear Rapid Transit Holmes   They are all hunks of junk

 

 

If you want something dood the Pullman Standard R-46 would be a better bet  Best subway ever made

Last edited by bluelinec4
Originally Posted by Rapid Transit Holmes:

Regarding the R-46s, I couldn't agree more.  I prayed that we'd get them as replacements for the 44s but the transit gods weren't listening.  Funny that the 44s and 46s were St. Louis and Pullman's last stands, respectively.  St. Louis was always and "also ran".

Pullman is still around but they will never make subway cars again as they lost their shirts on th R46.  The 46 had so many problems in the beginning that NY sued them over it and won  They make auto parts

Last edited by bluelinec4
Originally Posted by John Pignatelli JR.:
Originally Posted by david1:

why don't we all just wait for the catalog to be released. Now that is an original idea. 

No! What fun is that!

Agreed. It's always fun to wonder what will be in the new catalog. 

 

I'm hoping for another Premier steam locomotive in -2 that I can add to my fleet. 

Originally Posted by bluelinec4:
Originally Posted by Rapid Transit Holmes:

Regarding the R-46s, I couldn't agree more.  I prayed that we'd get them as replacements for the 44s but the transit gods weren't listening.  Funny that the 44s and 46s were St. Louis and Pullman's last stands, respectively.  St. Louis was always and "also ran".

Pullman is still around but they will never make subway cars again as they lost their shirts on th R46.  The 46 had so many problems in the beginning that NY sued them over it and won  They make auto parts

"... the remaining portions of the Pullman interests were spun off in May 1985 by Waste Management, Inc... As of late 2004, Pullman Co. (now the brand name Clevite), as a manufacturer of automotive elastomer products, was still under the control of Tenneco Automotive." (Wikipedia)

 

A sad end to a once great railcar producer that became too arrogant, too entrenched and too top heavy.  I wonder how much of the company wound up in the Staten Island Dump or Chicago's equivalent, "Mount Trashmore"?

Unfortunately I doubt we will see new tooling but the 44 tonner is nice and I bet we will see more road names.  It would be cool though if MTH built more small scale switcher locomotives.  I have always like the GE 45 tonner switcher.  I wonder how hard it would be for MTH modify the tooling 44 tonner and make one. 

Originally Posted by FECguy:

Unfortunately I doubt we will see new tooling but the 44 tonner is nice and I bet we will see more road names.  It would be cool though if MTH built more small scale switcher locomotives.  I have always like the GE 45 tonner switcher.  I wonder how hard it would be for MTH modify the tooling 44 tonner and make one. 

Physically, the 45 tonner is smaller than the 44 tonner.

 

Rusty

Originally Posted by D500:

Protosound-Universal (PS-U), which will respond to all basic TMCC/Legacy commands as well as those from DCS. M. Wolf (bless him) will finally give in to the pressure. This will open my wallet to him.

 

OK, it's not April 1 any more, but it's my birthday, and I get this wish.

HA! That's a good one. Happy Birthday!

Originally Posted by david1:
Originally Posted by John Pignatelli JR.:
Originally Posted by david1:

why don't we all just wait for the catalog to be released. Now that is an original idea. 

No! What fun is that!

You guys are just flailing in the dark, kinda like DC EH John.

Have a look at this:

https://ogrforum.com/t...-with-no-new-tooling

 

https://ogrforum.com/t...e-to-see-from-lionel

 

https://ogrforum.com/t...-in-the-new-catalogs

 

https://ogrforum.com/t...e-to-see-lionel-make

 

....etc.

Originally Posted by FECguy:

Unfortunately I doubt we will see new tooling but the 44 tonner is nice and I bet we will see more road names.  It would be cool though if MTH built more small scale switcher locomotives.  I have always like the GE 45 tonner switcher.  I wonder how hard it would be for MTH modify the tooling 44 tonner and make one. 

There would have to be modifications made to the trucks because, speaking of "flailing", the 45 tonners have SIDERODS.  Watching one approach at speed is a riot, the little siderods are flailing away to beat the band - here's the best video I could find on Youtube, though it's none too good:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXJTz0UNe3s

probably more on their WiFi modules that looks like a tiny TIU.

 

Maybe a side-sensor; a better version of a sensor device that attaches to the side of Any track. Or a sensor that clips to any accessory remotely controlling it thru an app..

 

Maybe an IR reader that is a boxcar that can be loaded with engine info as though it were the pulling engine and read/write  info to/from the side-sensor

 

An Android app to enter a layout and control the trains and accessories

 

Maybe pigs that fly!

Last edited by AlanRail
Originally Posted by Rapid Transit Holmes:

"... the remaining portions of the Pullman interests were spun off in May 1985 by Waste Management, Inc... As of late 2004, Pullman Co. (now the brand name Clevite), as a manufacturer of automotive elastomer products, was still under the control of Tenneco Automotive." (Wikipedia)

 

A sad end to a once great railcar producer that became too arrogant, too entrenched and too top heavy.  I wonder how much of the company wound up in the Staten Island Dump or Chicago's equivalent, "Mount Trashmore"?

 

I seem to recall that during the 1980s Pullman's passenger car manufacturing was spun off as Pullman Technology, while their freight car arm was spun off as Pullman Transportation Company, with Pullman Technology being bought out by Bombardier and Pullman Transportation being absorbed by Trinity Industries.

Originally Posted by John Korling:
Originally Posted by Rapid Transit Holmes:

"... the remaining portions of the Pullman interests were spun off in May 1985 by Waste Management, Inc... As of late 2004, Pullman Co. (now the brand name Clevite), as a manufacturer of automotive elastomer products, was still under the control of Tenneco Automotive." (Wikipedia)

 

A sad end to a once great railcar producer that became too arrogant, too entrenched and too top heavy.  I wonder how much of the company wound up in the Staten Island Dump or Chicago's equivalent, "Mount Trashmore"?

 

I seem to recall that during the 1980s Pullman's passenger car manufacturing was spun off as Pullman Technology, while their freight car arm was spun off as Pullman Transportation Company, with Pullman Technology being bought out by Bombardier and Pullman Transportation being absorbed by Trinity Industries.

May the light eternal shine upon it.  Amen.

Originally Posted by Larry3railtrains:

Regardless of what is actually in it, it's always nice to just go through it all.  I like Trains - ANY MAKE.

I have had a weakness for catalogs since I was a little kid, train catalogs included. Love to read them. I think it all started with the Sears before Christmas toy catalogs. I remember always circling everything I wanted in those, usually had lots of circles.  

CNJ 3676 - on the Ingalls 4-S - absolutely; I was never aware of it, but it worked most

of its life in Mobile (my home town) as a switcher (plus locals), and was built just over the state line in Pascagoula MS at Ingalls Shipbuilding. It would have been great to have a locomotive builder in my back yard.

 

I finished/painted/etc this one for a friend, as the original builder had become unable to do the work any longer. It has Weaver mechanicals, and sits a wee bit high on the trucks (I couldn't really change that without risky mods) - but I like it; wish that it was mine:

 

IMG_0329

 

 

Now, how about someone making some double-ended CNJ Baldwin Babyfaces? I'd

love one. 

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