What is the PRR "Strasburg" paint scheme?

Are you trying to find out what paint schemes the ones at the Railroad Museum have on them?

If you are referring to #4935 which resides in the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania it is a Brunswick Green 5 stripe scheme.

http://www.rrmuseumpa.org/about/roster/gg1.shtml

To follow what Jack posted, the "Blackjack" in the museum has the Brunswick Green 5-Stripe (with red striping around the windows).

4800 is out in the yard, with plans to restore it to the first, proposed paint scheme:

http://www.steamlocomotive.com/GG1/prr4899constr.jpg

I have a Strasburg girder bridge and it is a kind of deep red/maroon.

John F

Just for point of clarification, GG-1's never ran service on Strasburg.  They were pulled from the PRR/Amtrak line at Leaman Place along Strasburg's line to the Museum.  So technically, there really isn't a Strasburg paint scheme (like they do with their steam locomotives to resemble the lines of origin but worded Strasburg Railroad).

Flat black with rust streaks?

Yup, never was one because the SRR line wasn't electrified.

It ain't prototypical...
Credit to SRR

Lots of input, but not what I was looking for.

First off, here are my thoughts on GG1 Dark Green Locomotive Enamel (DGLE)/Brunswick Green paint schemes.  There are 3 different PRR DGLE 5-Stripe paint schemes.  So to say you have a DGLE 5-stripe GG1 does not tell the whole story; is it the early prototype scheme (4800 only), the Loewy scheme, or the Modified Loewy scheme.  All GG1s were painted the Loewy scheme by 1937, and starting in 1941 most GG1s were repainted into the Modified Loewy scheme.  So when somebody asks which scheme my late 1940s era GG1s are painted, I don't say DGLE 5-stripe, I say Loewy or modified Loewy.  But I digress.

What prompted my OP was something I copied to my computer years ago (forgot where from), which stated one of the PRR DGLE schemes (there were 6 total) was referred to as the Strasburg scheme.  I was hoping someone knew which one it was.  However, since I can't find it anywhere and nobody here seems to have heard of it I now assume the original author was high on something, and there is no Strasburg scheme.

Thanks anyway.  Back to wiring the layout.

Okay, based on some of your comments (thank you) and some more research I think I came up with an answer as to why the article used Strasburg to describe a paint scheme.  When 4800 arrived at the Strasburg museum, it was initially repainted into its late prototype scheme (stripes farther apart than the Loewy scheme).  Instead of using the accepted terminology of "late prototype" he coined "Strasburg" for the scheme since this was a museum effort.  Apparently Sunset/3rd Rail also used this term for their model with this scheme.

I'm glad to hear from Eddie the museum plans to restore 4800 to its original "early prototype" scheme (as delivered).  I wonder if they will also use its original number, 4899?  Since this scheme had both numbers on it, keeping the more well known 4800 would be best.

Borden Tunnel posted:

It ain't prototypical...
Credit to SRR

You're telling me.  You almost never see a tug-of-war between steam and electric locomotives anymore.   

And WGAL right there to film it. 

George

The "Stasburg" paint scheme is a fictional name as mentioned above created as a way to distinguish the wide spacing of the striping that was applied to GG1 4800 as it's third paint scheme in 1935 and was a one off scheme.  3rd rail used the term to distinguish their 1935 model from the 1952 version.  All production GG1s were delivered in the now classic 5 stripe scheme of gold leaf stripes on a DGLE field of paint that were spaced tighter.  GG1 4800 was repainted to match the rest of the fleet at some point prior to the change from gold leaf to Dulux Gold (yellow) stripes and lettering. 

Currently GG1 4800 is scheduled for a cosmetic restoration back to it's original appearance as GG1 4899 with all the original details that were removed after the Raymond Loewy restyling.

As delivered from Baldwin to the PRR for testing.

1935 Scheme (I.E. Strasburg)

Production scheme with narrower stripes.

And off as God intended it to be......

Speaking of a Strasburg Railroad paint scheme, can anyone tell me what font the Strasburg Railroad uses for the lettering on it's tenders and coaches?

GG1 4877 posted:

The "Stasburg" paint scheme is a fictional name as mentioned above created as a way to distinguish the wide spacing of the striping that was applied to GG1 4800 as it's third paint scheme in 1935 and was a one off scheme.

This is great info.  I know of only two paint schemes 4800 had before it was painted in the Loewy scheme, referred to as "early", or the original, and "late", I guess now called the Strasburg, prototype schemes.  What was the second scheme?

All production GG1s were delivered in the now classic 5 stripe scheme of gold leaf stripes on a DGLE field of paint that were spaced tighter.  GG1 4800 was repainted to match the rest of the fleet at some point prior to the change from gold leaf to Dulux Gold (yellow) stripes and lettering. 

I think there was a font change also when it went to the modified Loewy scheme.  The Loewy was DGLE, 5 gold pinstripes and gold leaf sans-serif Future lettering, with the engine number inside the side keystone.  The Modified Loewy was DGLE, 5 gold pinstripes and Dulux Gold serif Clarendon lettering, with PRR inside the side keystone.  The transition from Loewy to Modified Loewy started in 1941, with most units getting the modified scheme.  I don't have many GG1s, but I try to get the Modified Loewy scheme when I buy one for my late 1940s era layout.

 Here is a picture of my MTH GG1 in the Modified Loewy scheme:

Eddie Marra posted:

Just for point of clarification, GG-1's never ran service on Strasburg.  They were pulled from the PRR/Amtrak line at Leaman Place along Strasburg's line to the Museum.  So technically, there really isn't a Strasburg paint scheme (like they do with their steam locomotives to resemble the lines of origin but worded Strasburg Railroad).

As far as I have heard the Strasburg RR never had a GG-1 engine, Strasburg was all steam power to the best of my knowledge. Also Strasburg was a sort of small railroad so having enough money for a GG-1 may not have been possible.

Lee Fritz

phillyreading posted:

Eddie Marra posted:

Just for point of clarification, GG-1's never ran service on Strasburg.  They were pulled from the PRR/Amtrak line at Leaman Place along Strasburg's line to the Museum.  So technically, there really isn't a Strasburg paint scheme (like they do with their steam locomotives to resemble the lines of origin but worded Strasburg Railroad).

As far as I have heard the Strasburg RR never had a GG-1 engine, Strasburg was all steam power to the best of my knowledge. Also Strasburg was a sort of small railroad so having enough money for a GG-1 may not have been possible.

Lee Fritz

But Strasburg DID repair (replace a bad bearing) on a Penn Central GG1 for Amtrak in their shop in 1974.  How/Why?  Strasburg had the closest drop pit when the bearing failed.

(Trains Magazine January 1975. c. Kalmbach Publishing Co.)

Rusty

phillyreading posted:

Eddie Marra posted:

Just for point of clarification, GG-1's never ran service on Strasburg.  They were pulled from the PRR/Amtrak line at Leaman Place along Strasburg's line to the Museum.  So technically, there really isn't a Strasburg paint scheme (like they do with their steam locomotives to resemble the lines of origin but worded Strasburg Railroad).

As far as I have heard the Strasburg RR never had a GG-1 engine, Strasburg was all steam power to the best of my knowledge. Also Strasburg was a sort of small railroad so having enough money for a GG-1 may not have been possible.

Lee Fritz

Are we getting our museums mixed up here?  The GG1 we are talking about is at the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania, just outside of Strasburg, PA.  This museum seems to be incorrectly called the Strasburg museum, or the museum at Strasburg. 

The Strasburg Museum is a great little museum in the town of Strasburg, VA.  Been there, love it but it is definitely not the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania outside of Strasburg, PA.

Probably instead of calling the paint scheme I am asking about the "Strasburg" just because the museum that painted it that way is near Strasburg, PA, they should have called it the "museum" scheme or something like that.  I think I'll stick with what is in the books: Late Prototype scheme.