What "One of a Kind" Engine Would You Like To See Produced

1) Diesel:  CB&Q A-B-A sets of the fluted stainless steel E5A & E5B models.

2) Steam:  Baldwin Locomotive works #60000 3-cylinder 4-10-2 demonstrator.

Narrow Gauge SAR Class 26, "The Red Devil" which reminds me of what the NYC would have come up with if Wardale and Porta could have refined the advanced design of a Niagara Class further. A second choice would be the 101, that Henschel designed V8 streamlined steam locomotive. I could probably not afford either one. 

While not literally "one of a kind" it's certainly unique and only 3 units were built:  The Alco DH-643.

http://espee.railfan.net/spdh-643.html

The Milwaukee Road's very first 4-8-4, #9700 (class S1) - later renumbered as 250. Built by Baldwin in 1930, the locomotive was basically a stretched version of the F6 4-6-4. It was known as "Orphan Annie" because it was the only one of its class. In 1937 the Milwaukee  built another S1, #251, in its own shops. Orphan Annie was converted to oil burning in 1932 and used in the Idaho Division gap between the two electrified sections. 

For Lionel to do a scale Legacy DMIR Yellowstone.

John,

 Nice choice!

 But, how about Canadian Pacifics sole MLW M-640? That 18 cylinder 251 must of had a unique sound to it!

I would like MTH to do the GN Y-1a electric #5011, which was the single Y-1 boxcab rebuilt with FT cabs on each end after it was wrecked in 1945. 

Would also love NP2626, i.e. the ex-Timken 1111 "Four Aces" 4-8-4, in a modern, accurate and reliable version from any of the manufacturers.

Jersey Central Baldwin DRX-6-4-2000, built specifically for the CNJ.

Tony Sincius

TCA# 97-45101

1 - the NYC #5500 poppet-valve (your automobile has poppet valves) Niagara - the

Niagara that was the most embarrassing Niagara to the General Motors E7's.

(Easy model project, too - the external differences were few.) 

2 - I will -definitely- second the GE steam-turbine electric (they were never "UP" locos - the UP never owned them; they were soon returned to GE and actually spent WWII-time on the Great Northern, lettered for no one in particular, I believe; then scrapped.)

3 - also a second to the SAR Red Devil - in S-gauge/O-scale, as this would yield the

correct 42" prototype gauge of the South African Railways. How about a premium train set, complete with lions and elephants?!

4 - wonder how a Niagara would look in red? 

another along the same lines, only 3 built...

GN O-8 Mikado, #3397 - #3399

I find it hard to believe that the Great Northern had ONLY THREE O-8 Mikados!

It was NEVER built!

And yet another "not one of a kind but close:"

Morrison-Knudsen MK5000C

http://espee.railfan.net/spmk5000.html

Equipped with a Caterpillar 3612 V12, it was the most powerful single-prime mover diesel-electric locomotive ever made at the time it was built (5,000 hp), until GE came out with the AC6000 a year later.  Only 6 were made, half of them going to the SP, the other half to UP, both deliveries as demonstrators.

Oh, there was one other on my list. Don

Just for the record, EMD had a 6000HP, SD90MAC before GE did.

You sure about that?  From what I've read, GE's AC6000 came out in 1994 and the SD90MAC the following year.

Yes, The GE "people" saw, for the first time, the EMD SD90MAC at the out door exhibit as part of the Railway Supply Convention, in Chicago. They just about sh&$ their pants, and IMMEDIATELY had all the GE top executives from Erie, fly to Chicago the next day. GE then quickly worked out an agreement with a German diesel engine manufacturer, and THAT is what they used in their 6000HP locomotives. The German engines never really cut the mustard, and the EMD electrical system couldn't stand up to the big four stroke cycle 6000HP engine.

All the 6000HP units are now history, mainly since the U.S. railroad industry really didn't need 6000HP units anyway. The EMD 16 cylinder four stroke cycle engine is doing quite well in China, and the EMD 12 cylinder is also getting lots of interest.

March 2003 "Trains" has a photo on P.6 of a sharknose Baldwin-Lima-Hamilton diesel that pulled a Talgo type trainset named the Xplorer.  It was on the NYC, but instead of the usual gray, was yellow and blue, and lower in height than average for the late 1950s.

The Soviet A20-1.   The only 4-14-4 locomotive ever made.

I don't think an exhibit display really counts.    I think when one hears the term "released" in terms of product, it's understood to mean that it's released into the market, in this case, into service to the railroads, not at a convention.  Doesn't really matter who came up with it first, it's about who beats the competition to the market.  In this case, I believe that GE won.

Not quite history. GE builds the GEVO V16 engine used in the ES58Aci for Brazil and the ES59Aci (HNX5)used in China. Both of these units are quite successful. The engines used in the AC6000's have been replaced with the new GEVO engine to essentially make a ES60Ac. The 6000 hp rating is retained. Maybe not extinct but on the way out.

http://www.railroad.net/forums....php?f=8&t=47078

6000hp while powerful, is not all that impressive when compared to locomotives on the international scene. There are quite a few locomotives that greatly exceed 6000hp; however, they usually use their hp to go fast rather than pull heavy loads.

As far as other locomotives to be produced......

How about modern gas turbines? Russia has the GEM-10 and the GT1-001. The GT1-001 in heavy haul tests pulled 170 cars weighing in at 16,000 metric tons (17,600 US tons)!  The GT1-001 can develop 8300 kW (that's 11,130 hp!) of power and when fully fuelled can drive the train 750 kms with a top speed of 100 km per hour.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/...ational/message/9605

http://eng.rzd.ru/newse/public...d=4530&id=105623

http://trainspo.com/class/3353/gallery/

Leave it to Uncle Joe to come up with the biggest and heaviest....works OK for locomotives, but really for aircraft !  

I would like to see:

GM's Train of Tomorrow 

Rohr Turboliner

I wish that someone would do a PRR BP-20 in plastic...or it would be nice for Weaver to re-run their brass version.  I want a pair so bad but can't find them!!

Alan

Well, neither was literally one of a kind but both were purchased only by CNJ so I'll post them.

First, I'll second the suggestion of Mr. Sincius for the Baldwin double ender:

My second suggestion is the GP40P, 13 of which were built exclusively for CNJ although several units of the Dash 2 variant were delivered to SP:

Bob

The Santa Fe Beep. 

Part VO-1000, part GP7, and 100% unique. 

Wowak,

 Perfect choice for a steam locomotive!

John,

 That is another good choice for a diesel! If I remember reading Trains Magazine correctly back around 1996 or so, M-K kicked off that last HP race when it introduced the MK5000C in 1994. Powered by a Cat 3612. They had plans to introduce a 5500 and 6000 HP version that would have had AC traction. The units had some issues that I believe where usually software related{early on, later on related to crankshaft failures}. But, M-K Rail did get some impressive tractive effort numbers out of these DC traction equipped locomotives. Again, if memory serves me correctly I believe they came in around 136,000 lbs starting tractive effort and 118,000 lbs continuous (a little below the GE AC4400).

Hot Water,

 I may be mistaken, but I believe John is correct. I found the Sept 96 Trains magazine topic on the horsepower race: MK5000C - Aug 1994{SP}, SD80MAC - Nov 1995{CR}, GE AC6000 - Nov 1995{UP} and SD90MAC - Feb 1996{UP,intial units where convertibles}{UP took delivery of the first true SD90MAC's in 98}.

Baldwin 3-cylinder compound 4-10-2 No. 60000 in The Train Factory (fornerly Railroad Hall) in The Franklin Institute, Philadelphia

This one?

PRR S1 in Legacy.

How about the EMC E4 made for Seaboard:

or their streamlined Pacific, done correctly:

I want to see this one

That's an amazing-looking engine Don - Thanks for posting.

Growing up in New Orleans we would occasionally go a watch trains coming into the city from somewhere out where we lived west of there. I was very young and don't actually remember what it looked like, but do remember my Dad talking about "The Green Beetle" or similar that we must have seen from time to time. As I got older I can remember some diesels and a few steamers but not 'the Beetle'.  Perhaps this was it?

GE #101/UP #50, the first (and only double ended) gas turbine-electric locomotive.  Painted for GE Demo #101, and UP #50.

Stuart

Flash  Great ideal!!!  Here's my "Sweep"

Made from Lionel switcher cab and GP long hood and K-line frame and trucks. Shold be E-Z for Lionel to make.

I'm with you on the steam-turbo-electric.  A great period piece, and one that's gotten little attention from manufacturers.  It'd be interesting to see it in N&W, PRR or RDG colors, too.

I admit, though, that it'd be difficult to get it around even the widest layout's curves without a lot of overhang.