@Dallas Joseph posted:Maybe a couple bullet hole decals wouldbe good.
Just leave it to my cat. The last one she left on our patio looked like a crime scene.....😂😂
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@Dallas Joseph posted:Maybe a couple bullet hole decals wouldbe good.
Just leave it to my cat. The last one she left on our patio looked like a crime scene.....😂😂
@MattD87 posted:Lionchief Hudson smoke unit sounds like a meat grinder and is not producing smoke. Going to do the ol' smoke unit replacement job once the part comes in. Just bought a Hakko so I'm not mad I get to test it out
Hmmmm.....maybe you could use it to make a little sausage ? D'oh!
@Junior posted:Hmmmm.....maybe you could use it to make a little sausage
? D'oh!
wish I thought of this! Smoke unit replacement went fine. Motor is still noisy but at least I have smoke. Even took it apart again to add some oil to the motor to reduce the noise which worked for a bit but a day later back to noisy. I'm waving the white flag, at least it works, and the noise is nowhere near as bad as before and it is a motor. Almost stripped one of those little screws on the smoke unit board too. Good thing I always order more!
@MattD87 posted:
wish I thought of this! Smoke unit replacement went fine. Motor is still noisy but at least I have smoke. Even took it apart again to add some oil to the motor to reduce the noise which worked for a bit but a day later back to noisy. I'm waving the white flag, at least it works, and the noise is nowhere near as bad as before and it is a motor. Almost stripped one of those little screws on the smoke unit board too. Good thing I always order more!
Next time replace the smoke motor with one from MTH, I hear they are much quieter and last longer.
@Darrell posted:Next time replace the smoke motor with one from MTH, I hear they are much quieter and last longer.
Thanks. I will give this a shot next time.
I bought a used Electroliner on discount knowing it had some paint issues. In this case there were drops of glue on it. I was able to get it off with my fingernail without any scratches.
Now however there are light green patches where the glue was. Any thoughts on what I can do to improve this?
MTH Premier Santa Fe E8 AB set with PS3. I had the shells and found a deal on a Seaboard E8 with PS3 and an E8B. Painted the trucks, fuel tank, and pilot silver (Tamiya TS30), swapped the shells, and loaded an E8 sound file modified to announce Santa Fe's Chicagoan. Easy, quick project.
@Lou1985 posted:
Maybe quick and easy for you Lou.......but the end product is really a very handsome product.
And after doing some work on an MTH Premier Pennsy E8 , I would say this is a long pair. Nice job.
Lou, the E8s look great!
@ChiTown Steve posted:
Perhaps use a small amount of car wax and buff the area lightly with a damp cloth. Just go lightly and see if the spots start to fade…
Tom
Taking some MTH 19th century freight cars and adding/changing some details along with some slight paint enhancements…
A stock MTH Philadelphia and Reading gondola/flat car with details added and the lettering touched up.
Another stock B&O MTH Reefer with added details and some weathering done with Vallejo washes…
Finally,
This car was an experimental build using a MTH 34’ chassis and a Lionel tank, I shortened. After adding Wiseman archbar trucks with Weaver couplers and MTH wheel sets, it was painted and weathered.
The tank sits a bit high, so I will be replacing the balsa desking with styrene and lowering it at the same time…
Tom
Just finished a Interurban using a Lionel 710 Pullman and misc repro parts. I used power trucks from a K-Line S-2 switcher.
Steve
@woodsyT posted:
The cabinet looks great...nice example of recycling! Love the lights in the cabinet as well...those LEDs? It looks pretty evenly lit.
@Junior posted:...nice example of recycling! Love the lights in the cabinet as well...those LEDs?...
Yes. After working with a headlight for a day, I slapped two LED strips behind the door jamb to light up the wire cabinet - left over from a work/tool truck trim out. Also has a 'bonus feature' with a door switch. Anytime you open it the wire cabinet and under table lights come on together. 🙄😜🤘
All I need now is a switch that flips the table upside down to make the rest of the wiring easier on my knees and back 😜🤣
Bought this prewar Lionel 225E 1938-42 going to give this fine steamer a good degreasing and service just rebuilt the e-unit, it has a diecast tender the past owner did add pw trucks might replace tp prewar, serviced the tender whistle and works.
@Pete in Kansas posted:
Since I had nothing better to do this afternoon I finished assembling it,
It looks pretty good with my NYC 4000
@Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:
Very nice, and it's similar to a project I have in mind. Could you please post a pic of the underside?
Just dipping my toe in the Blunami pond. This part was incredibly easy. Using a 5 amp buck convertor to drive the Blunami board. Motor and speaker terminals provided. Surprisingly the BEMF derived chuff is already very close but can be adjusted if need be. Engine is MTH built from parts. To drive a smoke fan a cam or other way to detect driver rotation like an optical sensor will be required. Also I have to learn how to pair function outputs with sound effects like coupler opening.
The buzz in the background is from my space heater under the table.
Pete
@Mallard4468 posted:Very nice, and it's similar to a project I have in mind. Could you please post a pic of the underside?
@Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:
With K-line motors I bet this thing can boogie!
@Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:
@Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:
@RSJB18 posted:With K-line motors I bet this thing can boogie!
Steve - thanks for the additional photos.
The K-Line S-2 seems to be a frequent donor for smaller motorized projects. I'm not familiar with that engine - why is it such a popular choice?
@Mallard4468 posted:Steve - thanks for the additional photos.
The K-Line S-2 seems to be a frequent donor for smaller motorized projects. I'm not familiar with that engine - why is it such a popular choice?
The wheel base of the S-2 truck is a bit shorter than the NW’s etc.
Steve
@Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:... base of the S-2 is a bit shorter than the NW’s etc...
So - (scratching my head)
Is the S2 base hiding inside there behind the Pullman bottom plate?
@woodsyT posted:So - (scratching my head)
Is the S2 base hiding inside there behind the Pullman bottom plate?
That was supposed to be the wheel base of the S-2 truck itself. The power trucks mounts to the underside of the Pullman car.
Steve
@Norton posted:Just dipping my toe in the Blunami pond. This part was incredibly easy. Using a 5 amp buck convertor to drive the Blunami board. Motor and speaker terminals provided. Surprisingly the BEMF derived chuff is already very close but can be adjusted if need be. Engine is MTH built from parts. To drive a smoke fan a cam or other way to detect driver rotation like an optical sensor will be required. Also I have to learn how to pair function outputs with sound effects like coupler opening.
The buzz in the background is from my space heater under the table.
Pete
I use @gunrunnerjohn's chuff generator and super chuffer 2 for my steamers. You can get them here. I'm just getting started on a Williams GS-4, it will be my 4th DCC conversion but my first steamer. I plan on using a solid state power switch so I can turn the smoke on or off by remote. Stay tuned! Will post it soon I hope! For setting CV's the blunami app is pretty good, but I use decoder pro mostly since I have a Digitrax DCC system.
@Darrell posted:I use @gunrunnerjohn's chuff generator and super chuffer 2 for my steamers. You can get them here. I'm just getting started on a Williams GS-4, it will be my 4th DCC conversion but my first steamer. I plan on using a solid state power switch so I can turn the smoke on or off by remote. Stay tuned! Will post it soon I hope! For setting CV's the blunami app is pretty good, but I use decoder pro mostly since I have a Digitrax DCC system.
Thanks Darrel. I am new to DCC so no other systems. I think I have chuff and puff covered but still trying to figure out how to trigger two actions with one button (coupler sound with coupler power pulse). I know it can be done, just not sure of the protocol.
Pete
@Norton posted:Thanks Darrel. I am new to DCC so no other systems. I think I have chuff and puff covered but still trying to figure out how to trigger two actions with one button (coupler sound with coupler power pulse). I know it can be done, just not sure of the protocol.
Pete
Well, you have to connect one of the outputs to a relay or solid state power switch to operate the couplers, they draw too much current for the blunami. Once that is done you would then use function mapping to assign that output to the same button that activates the coupler sound. One of the great things about Soundtrax is they allow you to reassign all the functions to whatever button you want. Check out the videos about function mapping on the Soundtrax website.
Also check out this thread here on OGRforum, this details the hardware needed. The decoder set up is for a different decoder, so not sure how to set up the blunami. I will look into it more when I get to that point, but I have found over the last few years that I really don't use electrocouplers very much anymore.
Two post war steamers, a 2035 and a 637. Taken apart years ago for some reason since forgotten. Parts were comingled. Took a bit to get that sorted out, hats off to the original assemblers, not the easiest to get back together. Glad allentown show is tomorrow, some parts have vanished. Another someday project almost completed.
Found all the parts for the 637, assembled, placed on the track, breaker tripped. Looks like this one gets opened up again.
2035 wants to go, needs to have the motor cleaned up and the side gear placed on but thats what the parts will be for. The 2035 is the only one I want to keep anyway.
@Norton posted:Ok, knocked another item off the Blunami project list. Coupler now opens with sound.
Pete
Can't wait to see the finished project and read all about how it was done!
@Darrell posted:Can't wait to see the finished project and read all about how it was done!
I am taking a crash course in DCC at the school of hard knocks. Two things learned so far, not everyones implementation of DCC is the same and F for Function buttons is not the same as Fxn for Function outputs. Stay tuned.
Pete
Just finishing a standard gauge UP gondola. I got this one is an auction junk box and some previous owner had converted it to O scale by soldering on truck bolsters and adding O gauge trucks. Those came off, fixed a few broken soldering joints, painted it and now it's ready to join the rest of my UP cars.
I like to think this was a successful weekend. Got a super chuffer installed in this TMCC Allegheny. 27 ohm element, no more AC regulator, and increased air hole.
also got a new to me VL GS-1 with some problems at a decent price. Motor mount was bent so drive line was out of whack, fixed that whistle unit looked like it was never used I don’t know what kept it from running before but checked all connections and it’s running like a champ.
To top it all of made some small PCB repairs to a LC Thomas
hand painting the inside of one of my Rich Yoder Baldwin S-12 interiors. Trying to figure out what color to paint what...I can't find any reference photos for an S-12, so I will just wing it. So far I like it...
@roll_the_dice posted:hand painting the inside of one of my Rich Yoder Baldwin S-12 interiors...
what is that green color? I am trying to find something like that
OK, so I painted more...I like it. Not sure the box would have straps/buckles on it, but I took creative liberty. I just need to find a conductor that is sitting and glue him in and I will be finished. First time I have painted anything in a LONG time. I enjoyed it.
Nice work! The colors looks good to me.
But…
you need an Engineer! Not a conductor…lol😉
Tom
@Krieglok posted:Nice work! The colors looks good to me.
But…
you need an Engineer! Not a conductor…lol😉
Tom
Good call!
@roll_the_dice posted:Good call!
Actually, you could have a conductor or brakeman sitting on the seat box, opposite the Engineer…
Tom
This past few months I've been building some slab and billet carriers for my steel mill layout. I saw a series of articles in O SCALE RAILROADING from Rich Yoder about some house made flats and gondolas that were used at Kaiser Steel in California. So I decided to take a few O27 flats and modify them for steel mill use.
Standard flat cars are too long for use on my layout and they wouldn't look right carrying a 24 foot slab on a 40 foot car so I shortened them to around 28-30 feet. I then added some strip styrene to widen them to 10 scale feet.
To make them more robust for heavy haulage I made new sides from 0.030 sheet styrene, 1 inch wide, glued them to the car body and braced with more strips.
I then added new ends and glued down some I beams and solid bars to act as spacers between the deck and the slabs.
On this next car I wanted one with more details on the sides so I made some bracing from 0.010 styrene. I hand cut the sides to give the car a more "home built " look. This car is waiting for some rectangular tubing to be added to the deck.
Since it's winter I can't do any painting outside so these will have to wait for warmer weather.
Hope you like them.
A beaten 2035 steamer. Just finished cleaning the motor and testing, it works fine now. Body had so many nicks I cleaned and spray painted it flat black. Headlamp mount was broken, just soldered the mount back on. Later today I'll see if I have all of the missing parts after shopping at the spring thaw meet. Another helpful OGR video prompted this task, results are much better than I expected.
This weekend I picked up a mint 2007 Williams freight set headed by a Norfolk Western J. Unboxed it and tested the loco. Lights, smoke good, no go. Opened it up so I can get the motor and it was frozen solid. Some hard turning on the flywheel, it started turning. Ends up dried adobe in the gear box is bad🤪. Cleaned it up and added some Red N Tacky and it now turns freely.
Steve
@Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:
This weekend I picked up a mint 2007 Williams freight set headed by a Norfolk Western J. Unboxed it and tested the loco. Lights, smoke good, no go. Opened it up so I can get the motor and it was frozen solid. Some hard turning on the flywheel, it started turning. Ends up dried adobe in the gear box is bad🤪. Cleaned it up and added some Red N Tacky and it now turns freely.
Steve
Way to go Steve. Good save.
I've seen the Red & Tacky mentioned on the forum......I'll have to pick some up.
I never heard it described as adobe, but that is exactly what it looks like, Steve!
I have a Williams GS-4 on my bench that is trying to be the death of me! Installed a JWA Chuff Generator and Super Chuffer 2 along with a MTH fan driven smoke unit. Verified operation, had beautiful huge puffs of smoke timed to the wheels, it was great to see. Shut it down to go get the wife so I could show it to her, now the Chuff Generator refuses to see the tach tape! The little red light just stays lit no matter what I try, Argh!
Guess I have to order a third Chuff Generator for this project, I just need to keep telling myself how awesome this loco will be when finished LOL!
Q: how many observation cars is enough??
A: do not know yet…har har!!!
This was a K-Line ESE obs now being converted to Colorado & Southern (nee: CB&Q) SILVER STREAK which brought up the markers for the DENVER ZEPHYR from 1936 to 1956, and the TEXAS ZEPHYR from 1957 to I forget. The real SILVER STREAK resides in Austin, TX at a place called Texas Compound. I pose the question above since this is the third obs I have converted for a single train. If I ever get my hands on a GGD Empire State Express obs, then number four will hatch.
Last two weeks I've been working on adding a couple Menards trucks to the layout. The LED's are way too bright with the 4.5v wall wart I'm using. So thanks to @chris a I bought some DC buck converters so I can dim the led's down so they look like the lights are on, but not blasting like a couple of lasers.
I also will take the opportunity to redo the accessory and building lighting that is LED. I have an old HO transformer that I will use for the DC supply. I can also move some of the loads off of the 14vac terminals on my KW to the AC accessory power on the HO transformer.
These are variable output from the blue potentiometer
The camera doesn't do it justice but the first photo at 4 vdc is pretty good to the eye.
With the shop lights on
and the truck on the layout (before rewiring)
To be continued......
Bob
Bob, the lights look great!!
Picked up an undecorated corrugated auto carrier. Unpainted base was molded orange, so no primer. Doors and top were gray.
Another addition for the Oriole train. Painting done and reassembled, just waiting on the “retired number” decals to be delivered.
@Krieglok posted:
Tom I’m always impressed with your Craftsman ship. Great job!
@third rail posted:This past few months I've been building some slab and billet carriers for my steel mill layout. I saw a series of articles in O SCALE RAILROADING from Rich Yoder about some house made flats and gondolas that were used at Kaiser Steel in California. So I decided to take a few O27 flats and modify them for steel mill use.
Standard flat cars are too long for use on my layout and they wouldn't look right carrying a 24 foot slab on a 40 foot car so I shortened them to around 28-30 feet. I then added some strip styrene to widen them to 10 scale feet.
To make them more robust for heavy haulage I made new sides from 0.030 sheet styrene, 1 inch wide, glued them to the car body and braced with more strips.
I then added new ends and glued down some I beams and solid bars to act as spacers between the deck and the slabs.
On this next car I wanted one with more details on the sides so I made some bracing from 0.010 styrene. I hand cut the sides to give the car a more "home built " look. This car is waiting for some rectangular tubing to be added to the deck.
Since it's winter I can't do any painting outside so these will have to wait for warmer weather.
Hope you like them.
Very nice Bill
Been restoring another All Nation car from the Collection I bought many years ago. This time I had to redo the sides because of water damage and I’ll be changing the metal sides with some I found at the bottom of the box that day when I bought them.The under carriage is a Weaver and the Trucks are Vintage Atlas. I’ll be adding Kaydee couplers as well.
This video popped up on my YouTube feed this afternoon......
Some of this still applies today. The vintage 1940's video and narration are always amusing to watch.
Thanks Lee. You are doing a great job on the restorations. They look amazing with very exact finished work…
Tom
@lee drennen posted:
Been restoring another All Nation car from the Collection I bought many years ago. This time I had to redo the sides because of water damage and I’ll be changing the metal sides with some I found at the bottom of the box that day when I bought them.The under carriage is a Weaver and the Trucks are Vintage Atlas. I’ll be adding Kaydee couplers as well.
@RSJB18 posted:This video popped up on my YouTube feed this afternoon......
Some of this still applies today. The vintage 1940's video and narration are always amusing to watch.
That’s pretty cool Bob, the film even crackles in the beginning.
@RSJB18 posted:This video popped up on my YouTube feed this afternoon......
Some of this still applies today. The vintage 1940's video and narration are always amusing to watch.
Thanks Bob.
I'll admit that I learned from this film
Due to clearance issues the NYC like many northeast roads never ran dome cars, most modern streamlined sets included vista domes for variety. Here I have 3 MTH RK and a Lionel awaiting roof replacements. The RKs will be direct replacement and should be completed shortly, the Lionel will need to be sprayed satin black. Today was the first warm day in about a week but the wind put the kibosh on any painting so that one will have to wait. The last picture is a nice comparison shot between the RK and Lionel traditional streamlined cars.
Okay so 3 out of 4 are done. Stated with the RK Lightning Stripe. Boy those 4 little hooks holding the roof on gave me more trouble then the Lionel Baby Madison windows holding those roofs in place. Next my ESE dome finally lost its second level. I put the new roof on and I've got a horizontal black stripe. I thought I didn't have it seated properly but the edge of the silver roofs were black, the undersides gray. I don't get but metallic silver sharpie to the rescue.
Now if the wind will stop I can paint the last roof and some other items waiting for satin black.
Back again with NYC streamliners. This time the Lionel traditional ones. While waiting for appropriate weather to paint the replacement roof for the above vista dome I pulled out some of my older 16xxx series streamliners and somrthings missing.
Yes sir, the white stripes above and below the windows. Ah I have some white pinstripe tape! Nope too wide. Oh wait that white artist drafting tape! Nope too wide! I've got to figure this out because I don't think I'm steady enough to paint them. I've got two more in another box. So finish 3 projects, come up with 5 more. This is great!
@coach joe posted:Back again with NYC streamliners. This time the Lionel traditional ones. While waiting for appropriate weather to paint the replacement roof for the above vista dome I pulled out some of my older 16xxx series streamliners and somrthings missing.
Yes sir, the white stripes above and below the windows. Ah I have some white pinstripe tape! Nope too wide. Oh wait that white artist drafting tape! Nope too wide! I've got to figure this out because I don't think I'm steady enough to paint them. I've got two more in another box. So finish 3 projects, come up with 5 more. This is great!
Thanks for the info on where you ended up getting the roofs and how fast you were able to get them.
On the white stripes for the passenger cars..................... how about getting some stripe DECALS instead of painting them or using pin stripe tape Joe ?
Power chassis for a Lionel 2333 postwar Santa Fe F3 that has motor issues, one is running much slower at typical running speeds. Going to do a full service before condeming the rear motor's armature which looks to have been run a bit hot from the burning between the communtator segments. I think the gentleman ran it after buying it without a proper servicing on it. I will get the old girl back up to snuff for him shortly. Before that I serviced one of my prewar Lionel OO Hudsons. No pics at the moment though. AD
Dallas, some type of tape would be my first choice. After I posted yesterday I hit Advance Auto Parts, Autozone and O'Reillys for pinstripe tape to no avail. I was really hoping to find some so I could get these done. Today may be a good day to paint that roof and some other things that are waiting for some satin black. I've got some old Pactra Trim Tape, yellow and orange, no white of course, that has many different widths in the container. I may have to search the interweb and see if Pactra still produces it. If not maybe some sort of paint marker rather than a brush.
@coach joe posted:Dallas, some type of tape would be my first choice. After I posted yesterday I hit Advance Auto Parts, Autozone and O'Reillys for pinstripe tape to no avail. I was really hoping to find some so I could get these done. Today may be a good day to paint that roof and some other things that are waiting for some satin black. I've got some old Pactra Trim Tape, yellow and orange, no white of course, that has many different widths in the container. I may have to search the interweb and see if Pactra still produces it. If not maybe some sort of paint marker rather than a brush.
Joe- If you are painting anyway, why not mask off the car and spray the stripes on?
Tamyia tape is supposed to be very good at leaving a crisp edge.
Bob
Bob, I can't say that I'm an accomplished painter. Brushes, air brushes, spray cans, I've had some good results and some horrible so for little details like this I don't really like spraying. I'll have to mask the hole car and with the windows and rivet detail trying to get the edges burnished down tight around the stripes will be tricky and doing 5 cars worth I know I'll ruin at least one. Really hoping to find some pin striping. The problem is the stripe ledge is only about 1/16th of an inch so I believe it's going to have to be a modeling tape and not readily available pin stripe tape.
Joe, your cars are really looking great! I agree with Bob that masking and painting the stripes is a good way to go. However, I am with you in that I have never had great results with painting something that fine. I hope you find an excellent material for the stripes.
This might have been covered before as the original idea for this came from @SIRT a couple years ago.
I made replacement tires from heat shrink tubing. This was my first attempt and it went pretty good. It took a little trimming once on the wheel but the engine ran well. The “3/4” inch size was perfect for fitting over the wheel. I didn’t shrink it at all. Just cut it and put it on pretty much like a regular tire. How this holds up over time is anyones guess i bought the double walled version and it is thick
I expect to get better at this but first time wasn’t bad. A 4 foot tube cost $7.
So the weather yesterday was nice enough for the paint booth to operate. Here's some before and after photos and what they were used for.
K-Line gondola high ends and a Lionel traditional stream liner roof
Some desiccant canisters out of medicine bottles getting ready to joint the O-gauge drums.
The K-line high ends and floor were purchased years ago for use with existing gondolas I already had. I figured with Lionel, K-Line and MTH gondolas, I could this kit on one of them. Alas that was not the case. Not wanting to buy a $50 gondola to justify a $9 purchase years ago this open kit was destined for re-sale. Thanks to Trainz.com I got this K-line Classics die-cast NYC gondola for a really good price. As for the roof. Since the NYC didn't run dome cars the Manhattan is no longer a dome.
@coach joe posted:
Nice work done on these Joe. Great photos.
Looks like you had a good day for the work . What was the temperature outside ? What does your paint booth look like and how is the overspray drawn down ?
Joe, they are all looking great
Thank you Dallas and Mark.
In answer to Dallas's questions, it was low 60s and Sunny ere in Myrtle Beach yesterday. Winds, which are usually a problem, even 4 miles from the beach, were slight. I was just using cardboard boxes in the past to act as a spray booth. It helped with the wind but would contain the overspray until it settled. That made for very "sticky" and sometimes colorful arms. I've since bought a collapsible one with a screen in the back wall that permits air flow through the booth. I can use a fan and filter if need be . I'll get some pictures later.
Joe that must be nice with that temp. We have 43 this afternoon with sun ,but a little breezy.
Sounds like a great solution for spray mist........except for the RR. colors on your arms . What is the paint media you are using to get your arms " sticky ". Right now I have been using waterbase kraft colors and the original media Tamiya colors with no arm decor.
I do however have a table top dust colector with a hepa filter. It has 3 fans about 5 " round. I can't recall what brand . I'll have to get a photo of it .
My therapist had me walk up and down the 14 steps today so I'll be able to get to the layout by myself if I can follow the rules. Pretty big thing seeing the layout room again.
To quote from The Hunt For Red October, "Way to go Dallas!"
I've been using rattle can spray paint. Two years ago I painted some patio chairs that had rusted. Used two extra large moving boxes cut and tape together so a chair would fit in and be out of the wind. I was wearing short sleeves and apparently the residual paint in suspension in the air inside the box was coating my airs. I could feel it on the hair on my arms long before I could see the color, black, build up on my hair and skin. I wore long sleeves and nitrile gloves after that. Safety glasses and a particulate dust mask to catch any pigments were part of my safety equipment.
Dallas I promised you photos so here they are. I didn't pop it open but you can get the idea. This is the small one. The catalog I bought this from also had the medium and the large. Its 35"w x 30"d x 39"h. In the first picture you can see the 20 x 20 x 1 Merv 8 air filter. This and the exterior fan are separate sale items. The Merv 8 is the the most expensive of the 3 levels offered in the big box stores.
Joe, nice spray shelter! I need to get a new spraying mask, mine must be 35 years old. I have a plastic spray booth that is that old too, but it is rather small. I use spray cans too.
Dallas, congratulations on the 14 steps.
Steve, I’ll say it is half full. Your scene looks great.
@coach joe posted:Dallas I promised you photos so here they are. I didn't pop it open but you can get the idea. This is the small one. The catalog I bought this from also had the medium and the large. Its 35"w x 30"d x 39"h. In the first picture you can see the 20 x 20 x 1 Merv 8 air filter. This and the exterior fan are separate sale items. The Merv 8 is the the most expensive of the 3 levels offered in the big box stores.
Thanks for all the info and photos Joe. It certainly looks like you have this painting process and safety issue covered......and from the looks of what you have been painting everything looks professionally done .
Have fun and good luck with the continued nice springlike weather.
@Mark Boyce posted:Joe, nice spray shelter! I need to get a new spraying mask, mine must be 35 years old. I have a plastic spray booth that is that old too, but it is rather small. I use spray cans too.
Dallas, congratulations on the 14 steps.
Steve, I’ll say it is half full. Your scene looks great.
Thanks Mark. Can't wait to get back to maintainence on the engines. Who knew that would be FUN.
Hey Joe......'The Hunt For Red October ' ???......... ( one of my all time favorite movies )
A lionel 2037. A friend was gifted this piece, triggers the ZW L breaker immediately. Given my past sucess with my 637 I'm going to give this a shot.
Well Dallas it has cooled off here. March is a fickle month along the Grand Strand, Thursday before last was 80°, tonight it's supposed to be in the 30s/ Go figure. Again, thank you and Mark for your encouragement.
Sirt, how many times can I say amazing!
@Dallas Joseph posted:Joe that must be nice with that temp. We have 43 this afternoon with sun ,but a little breezy.
Sounds like a great solution for spray mist........except for the RR. colors on your arms .
What is the paint media you are using to get your arms " sticky ". Right now I have been using waterbase kraft colors and the original media Tamiya colors with no arm decor.
I do however have a table top dust colector with a hepa filter. It has 3 fans about 5 " round. I can't recall what brand . I'll have to get a photo of it .
My therapist had me walk up and down the 14 steps today so I'll be able to get to the layout by myself if I can follow the rules. Pretty big thing seeing the layout room again.
Therapist? 14 steps? What gives Dallas?
Did I miss a post?
Bob
@RSJB18 posted:Therapist? 14 steps? What gives Dallas?
Did I miss a post?
Bob
Well Bob......blew out a siderod on the left .
Last Friday morning a surgeon had me on HIS WORKBENCH to get a new hip on the left side this time. I tried to talk to him about using CA glue but he won out with 27 staples.
The visiting physical therapist instructed me how I'll have to get down the 14 steps past the 7 dwarfs ..................................to get to the train room.
@RSJB18 posted:This video popped up on my YouTube feed this afternoon......
Some of this still applies today. The vintage 1940's video and narration are always amusing to watch.
Hey Bob , really interesting video from the past.
The first iron used in the video reminds me of the iron I tried to use on my PS3 board
@Dallas Joseph posted:Well Bob......blew out a siderod on the left .
Last Friday morning a surgeon had me on HIS WORKBENCH to get a new hip on the left side this time. I tried to talk to him about using CA glue but he won out with 27 staples.
The visiting physical therapist instructed me how I'll have to get down the 14 steps past the 7 dwarfs ..................................to get to the train room.
Well glad you are on the mend. I've heard hip recoveries are easier than knees. Did the therapist wonder why you were so anxious to get down the stairs?????
Another comment on the soldering video. I giggled during the scene when the guy lit the torch and placed in it the hook at high flame. I can almost guarantee that those wall panels were asbestos. Amazing how common it was to use that stuff back in the day.
@coach joe- that spray booth is neat. I will need to pick one up on my next HD run.
Bob
@RSJB18 posted:Well glad you are on the mend. I've heard hip recoveries are easier than knees. Did the therapist wonder why you were so anxious to get down the stairs?????
Another comment on the soldering video. I giggled during the scene when the guy lit the torch and placed in it the hook at high flame. I can almost guarantee that those wall panels were asbestos.
Amazing how common it was to use that stuff back in the day.
The therapist said "wow that's really neat " and well .......she is a PT . I do think she kind of understood that the gleam in my eyes was important though .
Asbestos walls are something that has gone by the wayside Bob.........but there were a couple times in MY trainroom that it wouldn't have been frowned on by my Lady......and " that's all I have to say about that " .
I'm going to try to get a TET post out sometime today........and NOT from my photo files.
Wrapped up my upgrade of a Williams scale GG1. I got it with a Cruise Commander installed and the original owner had used the now extinct ERR Sound Converter to retain the Williams True Blast Plus board for sound. It also had just the basic two Williams light bulbs, not very appealing.
I stripped everything and re-installed. I had one of the GG1 VL cabs still hanging around, so I figured I'd use it, it has lighted gauges, very cool. It got all LED lighting, individually lit markers, cab lighting, and lighted gauges. I used the standard ERR GG1/EP5 sound board and the cruise commander that came with it for the installation.
All connections between the shell and chassis are on one 5-pin connector, this makes it real easy to crack it open to work on it if necessary.
Nice idea, Jim! It looks great! 😊 I would have a few more numbers if I did a Pirates car, but not many more.
@Mark Boyce posted:Nice idea, Jim! It looks great! 😊 I would have a few more numbers if I did a Pirates car, but not many more.
You'd need a fleet for the Yankees.......
@Jim M Sr Looks great.... #5 Brooks Robinson one of my all time favorites!
@RSJB18 posted:You'd need a fleet for the Yankees.......
Yes, I would think they need to start putting three digit numbers on the backs of their rookies and prospects! 😄
Just wrapping up my first diesel conversion to full Legacy. A couple more LED's to install and it's testing time.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:
Hey John....
Was this a pre-configured kit or something you were able to cobble together using available parts from Lionel?
I'm guessing one would have to have a pretty hefty background in electronics in order to custom assemble such a kit?
@Junior posted:Hey John....
Was this a pre-configured kit or something you were able to cobble together using available parts from Lionel?
I'm guessing one would have to have a pretty hefty background in electronics in order to custom assemble such a kit?
Junior, Thank you for asking John for some more details. I can say this, I worked 43 years in electronics, and I’m a neophyte when compared to John!! 👍🏻👍🏻
@Junior posted:Hey John....
Was this a pre-configured kit or something you were able to cobble together using available parts from Lionel?
I'm guessing one would have to have a pretty hefty background in electronics in order to custom assemble such a kit?
This was just a collection of parts from my parts stash. I had to make all the wiring harness myself. Some valuable reference material is Bruk's excellent Legacy documents that are posted in this post: Bruk's RCMC/BEMC/RSLITE Documentation.
I had previously made my RCMC tester, I was able to sort out all the boards I had and see what was good and not good.
Since I now had known good boards, I decided to do an upgrade or two with them.
You never cease to amaze!
Finally finished the interior of my Baldwin S-12...I hired an Engineer he jumped in to work! The engine is in the background. The figure was hand painted by a gentleman that I bought it from at the 2 rail Chicago show.
This little gadget popped up in my Youtube feed last night. I'm going to get one for sure.
Good grief! $22.50 for a plastic clamp and a little bit of solder???
I think I'll keep my money! I've soldered hundreds of those LED strips without one, and I saved $22.50.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:Good grief!
$22.50 for a plastic clamp and a little bit of solder???
I think I'll keep my money! I've soldered hundreds of those LED strips without one, and I saved $22.50.
True- I could actually do the same thing with a couple of small spring clamps......
I'll spend the $20 on more important stuff.
I just use a long metal bar, I lay a few strips on the bench and old them down with the metal bar, then I just go to town soldering them.
Bar: $0.0, came out of my scrap pile.
Bench: $0.0, already have one.
I just finished a NE5 caboose in the older Boston and Maine colors. It started life as a Lionel New Haven caboose. The different roads used very similar cabooses, including, I believe, the PRR. Photo documentation was difficult to come by. I wanted the older “end of steam” era paint scheme of red on red with the black roof.
Lionel did this model in the scheme I desired, but they are nearly impossible to find, plus I wanted a model with the smoke Jack further away from the cupola than the Lionel version had
I disassembled the car and instead of stripping the entire body, I was able to gently sand down the old lettering and apply a coat of dark red to the sides. The end panels were a slightly brighter red. Decaling was done using some K-4 B&M coal hopper sets, mainly to obtain a close to proper size Minuteman logo. The caboose went back together with repainted handrails.
The caboose was modeled to go with a B&M 2-6-0 I recently painted…
Tom
Opened up a Williams BL2 and changed it to series wiring. Since Williams used JST plugs, I just pulled the pins out of the plug bodies and used a small piece of wire to connect them together. Easy to convert back to parallel in the future should the need arise.
Added a P-touch label to the bottom so that my empty head doesn't have to try and remember......
Bob
Workbench updates. I showed this photo of a K-Line gondola with the accessory high ends and floor after I painted them and added them.
Well upon closer inspection with the floor installed the high ends rode a little higher than they should have.
The underside of the floor shows why. These little "feet" had to go.
A few quick strokes with a razor saw and we have a better fit.
The foam cradle had to be altered
Joe, that’s a really neat looking car!
@coach joe posted:Back again with NYC streamliners. This time the Lionel traditional ones. While waiting for appropriate weather to paint the replacement roof for the above vista dome I pulled out some of my older 16xxx series streamliners and somrthings missing.
Yes sir, the white stripes above and below the windows. Ah I have some white pinstripe tape! Nope too wide. Oh wait that white artist drafting tape! Nope too wide! I've got to figure this out because I don't think I'm steady enough to paint them. I've got two more in another box. So finish 3 projects, come up with 5 more. This is great!
So I couldn't come up with any appropriately sized pinstriping tape so I had to paint the stripes. I found a chisel tip paint marker and like Bob suggested I masked off the rest of the car. But Like I said had I tried to spray the stripes after masking those stripes would have bled into places they didn't belong.
I was happy with how the stripes came out and pulled out the 7012 vista dome that I replaced the roof with a coach roof to compare how they looked. Well the stripes passed visual inspection, HOWEVER, the following photos show coupler height issues that will almost certainly lead to uncoupling cars on anything but perfectly laid track. I guess nothing ever leaves my workbench.
The 6-16xxx series passenger cars are LTI early 1990s production. The 6-35100,Manhattan vista dome #7012 is Lionel LLC late 2000s production. I guess one should expect these discrepancies in cars manufactured almost 20 years apart but the height difference between the 16021 and 16041 are from the same production run. Does anyone have any suggesting on how to rectify this situation, or at least prevent uncoupling?
CBQ Bill,
Nice work on the FW&D diner.
RAY
@coach joe posted:Workbench updates. I showed this photo of a K-Line gondola with the accessory high ends and floor after I painted them and added them.
Well upon closer inspection with the floor installed the high ends rode a little higher than they should have.
The underside of the floor shows why. These little "feet" had to go.
A few quick strokes with a razor saw and we have a better fit.
The foam cradle had to be altered
Coach, ….I need that gondola in my life!……beautiful work coach!
Pat
@coach joe- nice work on both projects. I had thought of you the other day. I was digging through my tool chest and ran across an old paint marker. Glad it worked out. The stripes look good.
Not sure how to address the couplers except to put a small rubber band around them.
Bob
Pat, thanks a lot. The gondola story goes like this, years ago I bought the K-Line accessory high ends and floor thinking it would have to fit one of the many gondolas from different manufacturers that I had. This past winter while trying to get organized enough that I could fit some sort of layout in the allotted spare bedroom I finally broke the pieces out of the blister pack and low and behold not a single gondola would fit. Into the for sale box the pieces went. Keeping an eye out for a correct K-Line gondola, with out load, coil covers, high sides wasn't very successful until finally I found this one on Trainz.com. I didn't really need another piece of rolling stock but the model was right, the road was right and ost importantly the price was right.
Bob I remember an old post that mentioned rubber bands to prevent uncoupling but I'm not sure how to install them.
Norton, looks like you're making dentures.
Nice job JIm.
@coach joe posted:
Good looking job on this car Joe .........and the color of the wood floor is perfect.
@Jim M Sr posted:
Oh Yah Jim . This is one darn fine fantastic fun beer train sir. Nice finish.
Please note that the above FW&D Silver heavyweight Diner is owned &!has been modified by @Rob Leese.
Rob has been doing many wonderful modifications of various passenger cars for his Texas Zephyr
CB&Q Bill
Just finished cleaning and rewiring yet another prewar 253 electric loco. While I was at it, I threw in a new set of motor brushes, and cleaned the commutator ring. Of the four 253s I own, this one was definitely in the best shape when it arrived - Body (including roof overhangs) and frame are both perfectly straight, couplers intact, paint on the frame is near perfect, and the only parts that were missing were the headlight housings. The paint was a bit dirty, and the brass tarnished, but both conditions were easily fixed. Only one of the disk wheel flanges is slightly damaged, but I'm going to replace all four with a spoked set (ordered from Hennings Trains). Some would be upset by that, but I just think they look better. All in all, I think she was well worth the $45 I paid for her on ebay! I had thought about doing a complete restoration, as I had on my other three, but I think I might leave her as is. All she needs is a couple light bulbs, and she's ready for service!
You guys posting pics of beer, all while I'm here in my office (working on a prewar 253 electric). As a QC inspector for a regional airline, no beer for me until tomorrow night, when I'm NOT at work! The FAA has a real bug up their butt about us drinking at work! LOL! Have a good weekend everybody!
@Norton what are you using for the mold and what material are you using for the part. I have thought about adding "doors" to mine. I am not a big fan of the coupler sticking out so far.
Seems like the prototypes used them on certain engines and then stopped. I was surprised to read the couplers could be rotated out of the way to close the doors. That sounds like an engineering and maintenance nightmare.
@ScoutingDad posted:@Norton what are you using for the mold and what material are you using for the part. I have thought about adding "doors" to mine. I am not a big fan of the coupler sticking out so far.
Seems like the prototypes used them on certain engines and then stopped. I was surprised to read the couplers could be rotated out of the way to close the doors. That sounds like an engineering and maintenance nightmare.
For the mold material I am using Smooth On Mold Star 15 Slow. It has a much better shelf life that the Ooo Moo 30 I started using. For the casting I an using Alumilite “Amazing Casting Resin” (Their name). Its a Urethane resin versus a epoxy resin. I have used Smooth On Smooth Cast 300 but that is starting to turn. Both would work here.
If you get into casting its best to have a number of projects lined up as most products have a shelf life and some less than a year.
Still working out the bugs. I am finding the Alumilight cures a bit too fast (10 minutes) and some of the air bubbles are getting trapped. Stay tuned.
I have tried adding doors to the existing pilots but the compound curve makes it difficult to machine. Also I have found E6 pilots with closed doors (Lionel) and E8 pilots (P&D) but E7s seem to have a different curve and the other two wouldn’t fit. Lucky 3Rd Rail included them with their E7s.
Pete
Maybe this has been posted or it should be in another thread, but I want to build or get a better workbench for my trains. Can some of you guys show pictures of what your bench looks like and what are some of the key items you have on your workbench?
Thanks in advance
@roll_the_dice posted:Maybe this has been posted or it should be in another thread, but I want to build or get a better workbench for my trains. Can some of you guys show pictures of what your bench looks like and what are some of the key items you have on your workbench?
Thanks in advance
No harm in asking.
Thanks Dallas, several different colors of acrylic and some planks were layered with more than one. The acrylic covered the plastic well without filling in the wood grain. I like the way it turned out.
I picked up a Premier Southern Pacific Alco PA with no electronics but with both motors intact. Cosmetically mint and just needs a PS3 kit. I wanted another powered A to go with my PS3 version for an ABBA set.
Oddly enough, even those 13 years separate them, the red and orange paint on the PS3 version (6006) and the PS2 version (6008) dead nuts match.
Hi Rob:
Sorry to learn that this car did not meet expectations.
Who was the original manufacturer ?
What specific alterations are beyond fixing ?
CB&Q Bill
@CBQ_Bill posted:Hi Rob:
Sorry to learn that this car did not meet expectations.
Who was the original manufacturer ?
What specific alterations are beyond fixing ?
CB&Q Bill
This is a Golden Gate Depot observation car. Since I have already done makeovers on Lionel and K-Line obs, I have always wanted to try my hand at a GGD just to see how they lend themselves to changes. If you made a list of pro vs. con on the three named manufacturers it would come out near a triple dead heat. But having done all three I prefer Lionel over the other two. Lionel outside detail blows the other two makers away.
This car had embossed letterboards so they had to go. The lighting needs to be replaced. The diapragm end was an absolute joke so I modified it with Lionel parts. (I have already spoken my peace on GGD diaphragm ends in previous posts). When this car is finished I will have 3 options for an obs for the only one TEXAS ZEPHYR I have assembled…this is why I can’t stand in judgement of anyone elses seemingly large collections.
***Aside note just between you and I…I have contacted Microscale in regard to a special run of O gauge E5 decals (which they discontinued). Microscale said they would do a special run with a minimum order of 250 sets. (gad). We need to encourage K4 to do these. They are true champs of their profession and they create obscure decal sets which highly impresses me. I want to completely strip and repaint my four Sunset Models E5’s in a proper chrome finish, so I have a dire need for decals of which I do not wish to make myself.***
3rd Rail M1b tuneup:
@Lou1985 posted:
Interestingly, the earlier version (rear - 6008) seems to have more nose detail than the later version - an opening door and some grab irons to the side of it.
I've had these ready to decal for quite a while but couldn't find my any of my decal tools. I finally found them this last weekend and starting to get caught up on a number of projects I have started. These two still have a ways to go but not to bad for an hours worth of work.
These were on the workbench briefly last night. I programmed both into my Cab 1L and lubed the gears.
This one is a Lionel PWC remake of the original 624 so the pullmore motor was serviced as well.
Bob
Bob, I’m glad to see you are taking good care of #23. 😊
@Mark Boyce posted:Bob, I’m glad to see you are taking good care of #23. 😊
Thanks Mark. It found a good home for sure. I have to open it up and swap the 9v battery for a BCR. I think I still have one on the shelf.
@RSJB18 posted:
.Good stuff Bob.........and how many engines are you currently maintaining ?
I'm getting back to the workbench for maintainence fun also. My very first MTH PS2 from the VFM ........
Acetone and Q-tips for wheels and pickup rollers cleaning---------' ACF-50 for corrosion resistance and micro size coupler oiling. ---------EZ LUBE ( 99981 ) for pickup rollers and wheel axles to SUPPOSEDLY act to increase conductivity as well as act as a light lubricant.
WARNING........photo DOES NOT depict typical organizational skills of the operator.
@MattD87 posted:
wish I thought of this! Smoke unit replacement went fine. Motor is still noisy but at least I have smoke. Even took it apart again to add some oil to the motor to reduce the noise which worked for a bit but a day later back to noisy. I'm waving the white flag, at least it works, and the noise is nowhere near as bad as before and it is a motor. Almost stripped one of those little screws on the smoke unit board too. Good thing I always order more!
Had the same result with the oil going away Matt. Mostly started having some noise after a couple days. I'm going to have to see if anyone used some sort of light grease on the motor that might stay longer.
@Junior posted:
Like this a lot Junior. Well done. Is there a certain product you use on the buffing pad ?
@Dallas Joseph posted:.Good stuff Bob.........and how many engines are you currently maintaining ?
I'm getting back to the workbench for maintainence fun also. My very first MTH PS2 from the VFM ........
Acetone and Q-tips for wheels and pickup rollers cleaning---------' ACF-50 for corrosion resistance and micro size coupler oiling. ---------EZ LUBE ( 99981 ) for pickup rollers and wheel axles to SUPPOSEDLY act to increase conductivity as well as act as a light lubricant.
WARNING........photo DOES NOT depict typical organizational skills of the operator.
Well, let's see.....I went from 0 to 80 engines in a very short period of time soooo, they all need maintenance at some point. 🤣🤣
All part of the adventure of model railroading....👍👍
Bob
@RSJB18 posted:Well, let's see.....I went from 0 to 80 engines in a very short period of time soooo, they all need maintenance at some point. 🤣🤣
All part of the adventure of model railroading....👍👍
Bob
.......from 0 to 80 engines Bob !?! Yikes. I'll bet you don't sit around thinking " geez I wish I had something to do today ".
@Dallas Joseph posted:.......from 0 to 80 engines Bob !?! Yikes. I'll bet you don't sit around thinking " geez I wish I had something to do today ".
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IF ONLY.....🤣🤣
@Dallas Joseph posted:Like this a lot Junior.
Well done. Is there a certain product you use on the buffing pad ?
Hey @Dallas Joseph....
Here's what I purchased/used.....
I also used a 1,000 rpm motor.....
And the following coupler.....
BTW....I forgot to mention....since the sanding disc screws onto the shaft, you have to make sure the motor shaft turns in a clock-wise direction; to constantly tighten the shaft into the sanding disc.
Changing the direction the motor turns is simple. Just reverse the wire leads on the DC side of the buck converter board.
Otherwise the shaft will continually "unscrew" itself from the sanding disc.
Hope this helps!
@Junior posted:Hey @Dallas Joseph....
Here's what I purchased/used.....
I also used a 1,000 rpm motor.....
And the following coupler.....
BTW....I forgot to mention....since the sanding disc screws onto the shaft, you have to make sure the motor shaft turns in a clock-wise direction; to constantly tighten the shaft into the sanding disc.
Changing the direction the motor turns is simple. Just reverse the wire leads on the DC side of the buck converter board.
Otherwise the shaft will continually "unscrew" itself from the sanding disc.
Hope this helps!
Thanks Junior. Great amount of info on this project. Well done sir.
A: Piles and piles of projects and parts to sort out. I need to post a photo of my mess!
@Ricky Tanner posted:Q: "WHAT’S ON THE WORKBENCH AT THE MOMENT?"
A: Piles and piles of projects and parts to sort out. I need to post a photo of my mess!
Ditto on that
Another prewar set restoration/rebuild, that I'm getting close to wrapping up. Stopped for a few days to go to York, but now back at it. The 154 was originally dark green, but I wanted it in dark gray, and it needed to be painted anyway, so now it's dark gray. The cars were repainted dark olive green, with maroon trim. I had originally thought dark gray roofs would look good, but I was wrong! As you can see in the last shot, they've since been repainted dark olive, to match the car bodies. I'm Just waiting on the decals to arrive, and this set will be done. Loco and cars were in really good shape (other than the old paint), so whoever has owned this set in it's 100 years has really taken good care of it. (Shot of the mechanism without loco shell shows it being wired for single direction. This was just for testing/break-in of the new motor brushes. Manual reverse has since been wired in as original).
Salvaged an ATX Power Supply from an old Computer Tower that the rest of it went to an town Electronics Recycling Event. In process of cutting and crimp solderless caps onto unneeded wiring. Plan to mount it under my layout and run wiring to separate terminal strips for 3.3, 5, and 12 Volt DC Power for LED lighting and accessories on my layout. Link below with instructions in case any of you are interested for doing this for your layout or workbench.
@Trussman posted:
Trussman, looking forward to the finished product. That is a very unique project which I’m sure many of us will attempt to replicate. However, you have set the bar rather high. Excellent job and thank you for sharing.
Jay
@Tranquil Hollow RR posted:Trussman, looking forward to the finished product. That is a very unique project which I’m sure many of us will attempt to replicate. However, you have set the bar rather high. Excellent job and thank you for sharing.
Jay
Thanks Tranquil Hollow RR,
I posted these pix how I did the kit bashing a while back.
Made a jig using styrofoam and straight pins to make the railing.
Where the bolts would be in the boards, I poked the boards with a small awl, which after stained w/dark walnut stain and wiped off, the stain will stay in the dimples areas to give the effect of bolts.
Very nice work, Trussman! Great concept for a work car!
@Gary P posted:Salvaged an ATX Power Supply from an old Computer Tower that the rest of it went to an town Electronics Recycling Event. In process of cutting and crimp solderless caps onto unneeded wiring. Plan to mount it under my layout and run wiring to separate terminal strips for 3.3, 5, and 12 Volt DC Power for LED lighting and accessories on my layout. Link below with instructions in case any of you are interested for doing this for your layout or workbench.
An easier approach is to buy one of these things. They use the 22 or 24 pin connector on the power supply's wiring harness.
https://www.amazon.com/Benchto...dapter/dp/B07KNV2JTJ
There are lots of different versions for sale on Amazon, eBay, and other sites. I've used them and they are really easy-peasy.
Decided to beat my MTH 2500HP Transfer Engine into submission. Ever since I laid my track for the current layout, I haven't been able to run this engine. It ran fine on Fastrack, but no go on Gargraves/Ross track.
Turned out that the problem was somewhat obvious when I got to looking at it closely. The six wheel trucks only have four wheels powered, then there's a pair of "idler" wheels that ride in a slotted hole in the truck to allow vertical travel. However, in a break with the norm for this kind of design, they're flanged wheels, most of the time then this is done, they're blind flangeless wheels!
The problem arises when you go around any curve, the slot allows the wheels to ride up enough for them to hop outside the rail! With a flangeless wheel, this isn't a problem, when you straighten out, the wheel just moves back over the rail and is centered again. However, with a flange on the wheel, the wheel can't just slide back in, so it hangs out there and promptly derails the truck!
Since I have a number of Lionel diesels with six wheel trucks that have the same wheel spacing without this goofy floppy wheel design that run flawlessly, I can't imagine what MTH was trying to accomplish with this kludge.
Here you can see the travel, the flange is actually able to simply swivel out of the rail when it's at the top of it's travel with the remaining wheels in contact with the rail.
Turns out the fix was to pull a wheel and add a couple layers of brass tubing around the axle so that the wheels couldn't move as far upward. I actually used three pieces of brass tubing inside each other, that's what it took to get the spacing right. Now the locomotive cruises around the layout without any problems. I oiled things well to minimize the friction against the truck bottom, and the axle actually spins inside the brass tubing. I wish all fixes in life were this easy!
@gunrunnerjohn posted:
Nice work John. That's too nice an engine to be a shelf queen.
@RSJB18 posted:Nice work John. That's too nice an engine to be a shelf queen.
Yep, it's a cool and somewhat unique piece, that's why I wanted to get it back on the rails.
@Bob posted:An easier approach is to buy one of these things. They use the 22 or 24 pin connector on the power supply's wiring harness.
https://www.amazon.com/Benchto...dapter/dp/B07KNV2JTJ
There are lots of different versions for sale on Amazon, eBay, and other sites. I've used them and they are really easy-peasy.
Yes it would be easier to just buy one but since the power supply was still good, and the rest of the dead computer was going to the free town electronics recycling event, I figured it would give me something different to try doing and see if I can make it work. I'm just waiting on the 10 Watt 10 ohm power resistor to be delivered, then I can test it out to see if it works and maybe learn something along the way about it.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:
Nice save John.
Why was the Cargraves / Ross track a problem when the Fastrack worked OK ?
@Dallas Joseph posted:Nice save John.
Why was the Cargraves / Ross track a problem when the Fastrack worked OK ?
I honestly can't say, but I'm guessing the round top of Fastrack, I don't what else it could be. I know it cruised around my Fastrack in the old house without a problem, and that was on carpet! When I put it on better track in a laser-leveled layout, it derailed on almost every curve! BTW, the curves are O72 and larger as well.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:I honestly can't say, but I'm guessing the round top of Fastrack, I don't what else it could be. I know it cruised around my Fastrack in the old house without a problem, and that was on carpet! When I put it on better track in a laser-leveled layout, it derailed on almost every curve! BTW, the curves are O72 and larger as well.
Seems like a lot of mysteries associated with this hobby John.
If the Cargraves /Ross tracks are flat maybe you are right . The Fastrack being round top might allow a little more tolerance in wheel movement from side to side and being round it could let the flanged wheels slip down inside the rail easier .
Whatever the case , your solution for your new track was really pretty nice..........one of these days I'm going to have to get a small wheel puller.
Thanks for sharing.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:Decided to beat my MTH 2500HP Transfer Engine into submission. Ever since I laid my track for the current layout, I haven't been able to run this engine. It ran fine on Fastrack, but no go on Gargraves/Ross track.
Turned out that the problem was somewhat obvious when I got to looking at it closely. The six wheel trucks only have four wheels powered, then there's a pair of "idler" wheels that ride in a slotted hole in the truck to allow vertical travel. However, in a break with the norm for this kind of design, they're flanged wheels, most of the time then this is done, they're blind flangeless wheels!
John, Norm Charbonneau solved this same problem using a shim on the truck frame instead of building up the idler axel. His video is quite helpful:
@Dallas Joseph posted:Seems like a lot of mysteries associated with this hobby John.
If the Cargraves /Ross tracks are flat maybe you are right . The Fastrack being round top might allow a little more tolerance in wheel movement from side to side and being round it could let the flanged wheels slip down inside the rail easier .
Whatever the case , your solution for your new track was really pretty nice..........one of these days I'm going to have to get a small wheel puller.
Thanks for sharing.
You have to be careful pulling wheels. A small disaster happened pulling the wheel, I cracked one. I knew I had a bunch of scrap trucks with the same wheel, so it was only a minor issue. Someone had been there before me (this was a well used engine when I bought it). They had, for some unknown reason, hammered on the axle ends of the truck idler wheels, perhaps in an attempt to repair the very issue I was having. The result was they were peened over enough that it was impossible to remove the wheel, hence the broken flange. AAMOF, I never did get that wheel off the axle, but to avoid damaging the truck with more extreme measures, I just cut the axle in two and removed the whole affair. I then grabbed another wheelset that hadn't been mutilated and continued on.
Pat (Harmonyards) suggested some machining to put in a brass bearing, that would have been the Cadillac solution, but I was impatient and decided to try my fix.
@Rapid Transit Holmes posted:John, Norm Charbonneau solved this same problem using a shim on the truck frame instead of building up the idler axel. His video is quite helpful:
Same idea, it just seemed easier to me to slip a couple small pieces of brass tubing over the axle and be done with it. However, Norm's solution probably didn't need to remove the wheels, so that was a plus. The real reason was, I thought of the brass tubing first and it worked out.
Very nice job Trussman. I've seen MOW cars like this before here on the Forum. I really like how you handled the bolts.
Where the bolts would be in the boards, I poked the boards with a small awl, which after stained w/dark walnut stain and wiped off, the stain will stay in the dimples areas to give the effect of bolts.
On my workbench this morn is a test track in the build state. A question comes to mind. I was planning on using tubular o gauge instead of my super O, because I can use an RCS instead of the separate operating blades and magnet that are on my layout. On the RCS, does the uncouple button operate both the magnet and the coil coupler rails? I have a few post war coil coupler cars, and have given some thought to swapping trucks to the magnetic couplers. Your input is appreciated
dick
We moved across country last year and I haven't really organized anything and is not neat and orderly like I like...so today, I started by adding a couple of shelves in a closet in our "craft room". Going to add 1 or 2 more and organize my inventory so I know what I have and what I "need". Going to organize by freight car type, ie, Milk Cars, Pulpwood Cars, Boxcars, etc. Not close to being organized yet, but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. I have stuff still in totes and whatnot from the move. My goal is to only have larger boxes on the closet floor and all rolling stock on shelves.
I recently had a gear replaced on one truck by Chuck Sartor (great service) and got it put back together last night. Nice to have her back up and running, it's been broken for a couple of years.
I dropped this engine from 3+ feet onto carpet when the shell separated from the chasis...dont' ask. I tried to run it after a few choice words, but only the deisel start up smoke fan would run, but the engine wouldn't start, move, no lights... A few more choice words. Went to sleep. Took it apart again today, Checked plugs, wiring etc. Everything seemed to be as it should be. Tried again to run it on my test track. It responded conventionally but not using TMCC. Then I tried BlueTooth. Success. It was like a miracle! It started and responded to all Bluetooth commands. I then moved to my layout and, it would not respond to Legacy. I tried again with BlueTooth...it worked. I shut everything down, cycled the track power, and now, it's running normally in Legacy. I have no idea what I may have done poking around inside this morning, but "it ain't broke (now) and I will not fix it." Well, not quite, the drop did bend some nose guard rails that I'll try to straighten out.
@ToledoEd posted:I dropped this engine from 3+ feet onto carpet when the shell separated from the chasis...dont' ask.
I tried to run it after a few choice words, but only the deisel start up smoke fan would run, but the engine wouldn't start, move, no lights... A few more choice words. Went to sleep. Took it apart again today, Checked plugs, wiring etc. Everything seemed to be as it should be. Tried again to run it on my test track. It responded conventionally but not using TMCC. Then I tried BlueTooth. Success. It was like a miracle! It started and responded to all Bluetooth commands. I then moved to my layout and, it would not respond to Legacy. I tried again with BlueTooth...it worked. I shut everything down, cycled the track power, and now, it's running normally in Legacy. I have no idea what I may have done poking around inside this morning, but "it ain't broke (now) and I will not fix it." Well, not quite, the drop did bend some nose guard rails that I'll try to straighten out.
I have the first run of the Lionel UP Veranda turbine from years ago. Muy heavy. You didn't mention it, but some may not realize that these Lionel Verandas have die-cast shells, unlike the MTH version, which has a plastic shell (NOT a criticism), so the weight and kinetic energy stored when this thing hit the floor is painful to think about.
Must truly be built like a tank, inside and out, since it "healed" itself.
Well, he did say the shell separated from the chassis, so I'm presuming he was left holding the shell. Dropping from three feet onto carpet for the diecast shell shouldn't be a huge risk.
John, both, shell and chassis hit the floor...I'm not sure why I let go of the shell when the chassis started the free fall, all I can think of is my brain thought, 'save the important stuff' and I let go of the shell while watching the goodies hit the floor. D500, yes it's a beast. Heavy stuff.
Why drop one when you can drop both of them!
225e with Bubba ized motor two 2224 tender shells looking for tender frames and cast whistles... building one as a 2235w the other as 2245w
Another bench projedt is my 403 switcher consisting of a 201 / 203 motor 1665 boiler needing replacement markers and moving the e-unit slot Looking for my basket case 1946 726 hopefully to be returned to operating condition. Have my box of electronic control receivers may make it a never sold electronic berkshire
since I had decent luck with the first Natty Boh GP9…
I decided it neede a sister locomotive.
Found this UP GP9 reasonably priced and went to work removing hand rails, and prepping for repaint
Next two are out of sequence.
White base coat first. The tape off and Colonial Red applied
another tape job, and black added on areas of roof.
Only a caboose left to do.
Here are the 2 225e s I am working on. One was a boiler and steamchest swap as the pilot was ctound down and the cross piece under the cab was just plain gone. Loco 2 motor was Bubba ized needs serious TLC and the boiler has a bad "broom" paint job to be stripped and redone to satin black.
One tender shell I see is genuine Lionel the other questionable as it has a cast in coal pile. Still need 2 frames and 2 cast whistles
I have been working on adding auxiliary air tanks to my MTH Mikado. The Duluth Missabe and Iron Rang Railroad (DM&RR) added them to several road locomotives in order to increase air capacity and to get the air filters further away from ore dust. A long string of short ore jennies has more wheels to break/release than a similar length train with standard length cars thus, the need for more air! It gives these workhorse a more rugged look. I like the look! Had to position the new tanks behind the sand dome instead of in front, which would be correct for the prototype. Hey, we are running on 3-rails and lashing up our trains with big “Lobster-claw” couplers, so you can’t hurt my feelings for the deviation! After a 48 hour cure, I will give the tanks a final finish coat and permanently mount them to the boiler.
Still managing to put off the process of weathering!!
Cheers, Dave
Dallas Joseph,
Realy nice looking job Jim.
Where do you get your decals ? 🤔 They look great.
Thank you.
I made the decals from pictures I found on line. Copy and paste into “Word” then adjusted the size. Used ink jet printer, so they had to be sealed before wetting and applying.
Engine numbers on the side are dry transfers.
Are you fitting out the front truck with a roller as well? I would fit both trucks with rollers and add a 3rd wire to the locomotive as was the pre-war Magic Electrol locos 201 and 1663 except wiring 3rd wire to carry center reail to the loco as switchers may have an issue of stalling on switches and crossings ir not locate magic electrol relays to add magic electrol to postwar
@Ed Samsen posted:Are you fitting out the front truck with a roller as well? I would fit both trucks with rollers and add a 3rd wire to the locomotive as was the pre-war Magic Electrol locos 201 and 1663 except wiring 3rd wire to carry center reail to the loco as switchers may have an issue of stalling on switches and crossings ir not locate magic electrol relays to add magic electrol to postwar
What I've noticed on all the 6403b (14) & 2403b (3) tenders I've worked on did not come w/a roller on the front trucks. The roller on the rear truck is for the bell and the flying shoe on the rear truck is for the coil couple on the tender and also that wire goes to the left female plug in the cab of the engine which goes to the front coil coupler on the engine and the other wire connects from the ground in the tender up to the right female plug in the cab of the engine for a better ground.
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