MartyE posted:Some Quick Start Guides from Lionel hosted on the Lionel Website...
Trainmaster Complete Guide to Command Control
These two links no longer work. Will someone please post current working links? Thanks.
ogaugeguy posted:MartyE posted:Some Quick Start Guides from Lionel hosted on the Lionel Website...
Trainmaster Complete Guide to Command Control
These two links no longer work. Will someone please post current working links? Thanks.
Thanks, MartyE.
ogaugeguy posted:Thanks, MartyE.
You're welcome. It's getting a bit tiresome chasing the moving links.
Adding ditch lights to TMCC Locomotives using the ERR Sound Converter.
I've done some code mods to the ERR Sound Converter to get properly working ditch lights. Although not in the documentation for the Sound Converter, there are three LED outputs on the six-pin connector, two of those LED's provide ditch light functionality. I recently wanted to use ditch lights in an upgrade, so I set about fixing the functionality so it would be suitable, there were a couple of issues with the "as delivered" code. Here is the latest version of my code.
ERR Sound Converter Ditch Light Mods.zip
The Sound Converter should be connected as documented as far as serial data and power, the ditch lights are connected using a 1.5mm 6-pin JST-ZH family connector. Below is a snippet of the schematic for the ERR Sound Converter board, LED#1 and LED #3 are the ditch light outputs, pins 1 & 5 are the positive side. No resistors required, each output drives one white LED.
One installation note. In certain environments, the Sound Converter will load the serial data enough to cause issues with other serial functions, specifically sounds and/or motor control in the case of the ERR Cruise Commander M. This is because the standard connection to the Sound Converter drives the serial data through an opto-isolator, and the serial data is required to supply the power for the opto-isolator. There is a work-around for this, if you move the serial data line from pin-1 of the 4-pin connector to pin-3, it drives an unbuffered input. This reduces the load and allows other serial data users to see the serial data. Since the serial data for TMCC is frame ground referenced, this shouldn't create any issues, and it's worked fine for me.
If you are not using the actual Sound Converter feature of the board to drive a conventional sound board, you can also remove the rather large and bulky LM317 regulators to make a more compact package. I do that, and then I stick the whole board in a piece of heatshrink to insulate it.
Obviously, not everyone is setup to compile and program the board, so if you want this functionality, you can contact me and we'll work out an update for your Sound Commander code.
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Thank you Bigdodgetrain!! A video is so much easier to learn from than reading about it in a manual!!!
I concur, thanks for the video, very user friendly !
Gunrunnerjohn, you ever come up with the wiring diagrams for the RCDR V1?
Yes that was very helpful, although a little slower talking and a bit more effort to articulate your words would be nice for this old goat.
Ed posted:Gunrunnerjohn, you ever come up with the wiring diagrams for the RCDR V1?
Are you talking about the one that ERR sells?
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Gunrunnerjohn, I am talking about the RCDR that you have listed second to the last page on this forum and listed as Legacy RCDR and BEMC wiring and pinouts. On the last two pages it shows the RCDR V1 with wiring diagrams coming soon. Here is the link:
https://ogrforum.com/...%20and%20Pinouts.pdf
Thanks,
I'm not the guy that was posting those, I just repeated Bruk's document posting. He's the guy to ask about the pinouts.
The original Lionel TMCC system came with a list of commands that could be sent to the serial port on the command base from a computer. Is there a similar list for the Legacy system? I am trying to add some of the new command strips to JMRI so I can expand control capabilities of JMRI for Legacy equipped rolling stock. Cannot seem to find this info anywhere.
Yes There is but you have to become a LCS APP writer they will have you sign a NDA and then they will email you all the command protocol for Legacy the contact info i can PM you if you want i am a LCS app writer and got all the info
Yes Please. I am the keeper of the JMRI TMCC development and would like to keep JMRI up to date.
jlefevre1@me.com
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Here you go Jim, the Lionel LCS Partner Program. Sign up and you can download the full specification, and it's free.
wow they changed it so now it is public nice
It's public, but it's an older version of the spec. I've had 1.22 for some time now, and the one that's linked from the LCS page is still 1.21.
yea i have 1.22 also but for his needs that should get him what he is looking for the 1.22 was for sensor track and some of the new lcs equipment sounds like he just wants to send legacy commands using JMRI
gunrunnerjohn posted:It's public, but it's an older version of the spec. I've had 1.22 for some time now, and the one that's linked from the LCS page is still 1.21.
@Railsounds can you help with getting this updated?
Here's Bruk's fantastic Legacy reference documents, a must have for anyone cracking open a newer Legacy locomotive.
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Thank you for putting these on our site. Will help answer a lot of questions like " A wire broke off and I don't know where it came from".
Discontinued ERR Product User Manuals
Here are some manuals for ERR products that have been discontinued.
ERR RMT Beep Commander v2 & Sound Commander.pdf
ERR RMT Buddy TMCC Installation.pdf
ERR Sound Commander v2 Installation Manual.pdf
ERR Sound Converter.pdf, Link to Sound Converter Code and Schematic Post
ERR RMT Beep Commander v2 & Sound Commander.pdf
ERR RMT Buddy TMCC Installation.pdf
2021-12-22 - Edit to add a couple of missing manuals.
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Bruk's lastest Legacy documentation, this is a must-have for those working on newer Legacy equipment.
A great big thank you for Bruk for all his hard work on these!
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I've been asked for this frequently, here's the latest versions of the JWA product manuals.
Chuff Generator V3 Documentation.pdf
Super-Chuffer II Documentation.pdf
Pass Car Lighting Kit Documentation.pdf
Pass Car Lighting Module Documentation.pdf
YLB Rev 1.2a Documentation.pdf
Insulated Track Signal Driver Rev. 2 Documentation.pdf
MP3 Universal Sound Module Documentation v1.8.pdf
Locomotive Motion Sensor Installation and Operation.pdf
Edit: Add Sound Module & Motion Sensor documentation.
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Thank you, John!!
@Mike CT posted:From a Recent tread. TMCC 101
If you can find a CAB-1/Command Base, the original TMCC offering, here is a link from the Lionel website. A 48 page manual that was part of the Cab-1 handheld/Command base offering. The complete guide to command control. Click on the underlined phrase to link.
Here is a link to the Legacy Control System V 1.5. 88 page manual
Both manuals have just about everything that is involved with the two systems. Basic wiring to multiple unit/locomotive operations.
Another important part of the system is the Track Power Controller. It allows for Conventional control using hand held remotes.Edit/add: The TPC (Track Power Controller) has the ability to interface with QSI/MTH Proto1 and Proto2 in conventional mode. Noted in this publication. Simple commands like horn/whistle, couplers, etc. are available via the Cab1 handheld control buttons. Pages 17,18,19.
There are other control devices related to accessory and block controls, that more or less piggy-back off either of the two command systems.
Lots of infomation in those three underlined phrases.
Have fun
Mike
Both these links are dead. We should start a wiki where people can update links etc.
That is a great idea. How do we do it with the OGR moderators’ blessing?
Got it, Marty!! Thank you!
@Mark Boyce posted:Got it, Marty!! Thank you!
I check these links every now and then to keep them current.
Here's some corrected documents for RailSounds pinouts. Specifically, the Hall Effect Sensor pins were incorrect on the original documents.
TMCC-RailSounds Board Pinouts.pdf
A couple of files that are now missing from the Lionel site.
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Here's a really useful repackaging of the Lionel Product Supplements, this has been converted from graphics to a searchable text file. It is loaded up here in three parts because of the overall size, just download all of them, move them to a separate folder, and run the Lionel_1_thru_47.part1.exe to extract the single large searchable file of all the Supplements.
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Any suggestions for Mac OS ?? I received this error notice:
You can’t open the application “Lionel_1_thru_47.part1.exe” because Microsoft Windows applications are not supported on macOS.
We should not be posting complete copies of copyrighted works:
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To all the forum members who contributed references: Thank you.
Unfortunately Lionel's website re-design has killed all the links from this thread that point to Lionel.com
So, if you linked directly to Lionel.com, consider editing your post to point to the correct location on Lionel's new web site.
Bob
I went thorough and updated my links.
Thanks for the heads up.
For folks looking for the K-Line 6-pin steam tether components, here are the connectors used. They're the Hirose DF11 family connectors.
DF11-6DS-2C Female Tether Connector
DF11-6DP-2DS(24) 90 Degree Engine Header
