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Originally Posted by Allan Miller:

Consider using GarGraves track with Ross switches. That combo has become something of a standard in the hi-rail community.

 

That's what I have been using for more than 20 years.

 

Atlas is also nice, and the trains are a little quieter because the rail is solid. But it is more expensive on a per foot basis, and lately availability has been a bit flaky.

Originally Posted by willbacker45:

Only issue with Gargraves is that I don't know how well scale wheeled items will run on it?  Isn't Gargraves a tubular track?

Its tube, but a more squared profile. More, like Super O, than 0-27.

I don't run anything near scale size flanges, to be able answer on, running on it, with those wheels.

I use RCS switches and track as well as Gargraves track, 0 problems (except operator error).

 

Ross track is glued and spiked to the wooden ties, Gargraves track is secured in slots cut into each tie.  I prefer the looks of the Ross track over the Gargraves track, but both have performed as expected.

 

Gargraves radius tracks are larger than the given radius, center-to-center:

 

http://www.gargraves.com/files...onal%20specs-web.pdf

 

Their 072 curves are 72.59" c-c.  I'm fairly sure Ross curves are true c-c (072 = 072).

 

Atlas is the best looking track IMO, but get out your wallet(s).

Have you undecided track system guys ever thought about buying RR Track with the hirail library? You can play with the geometries of each major system and see what will work best for your given space. It's a pretty modest investment relative to what you'll be spending in track and turnouts.

 

And for the love of all things good and decent please feed power on all sides of your turnouts no matter what ones you buy!

Originally Posted by Bob Delbridge: 

Atlas is the best looking track IMO, but get out your wallet(s).

I agree, especially at the time we built our layout, i.e. all Atlas solid nickel silver, glued down on VinylBedd roadbed.

 

That said, had I known more about it at the time, I would have chosen MTH Scale Track.

 

The issue now is, nobody seems to be able purchase enough Atlas O track, nor MTH Scale Track to construct a layout. Therefor your best, and pretty much only, choice is Ross and you sure can't go wrong with their product.

I would give a nod to ScaleTrax too. Our layout was very nice and easy to build due mainly to the ease with which ScaleTrax's flex track was to  work with. We used #6 switches and 072's with no real need for any other.

 

To me, the lower profile and thin center blade was the deciding factor giving a more massive appearance to all of our locomotives and rolling stock.  Take a look at this week's 'Weekend Photo Fun' and see Rich Battista's photos of the UP DD35 near the top of p2 on his layout. 

 

ScaleTrax is much less expensive than Atlas too. Atlas is a close second in scale appearance.

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I have had good luck with Gar Graves track and switches. All track has gone up in price! Depending on how much track and switches you need will depend on how big of a budget you have, and how easy it will be to purchase the track and switches. Like I said Gar Graves Track and switches work just fine on my 16' x 10' layout. I also used cork bedding under my track. Good luck.

The real question is: What track system will look best with kitty litter and/or coffee grounds sprayed with brake cleaner? Also, which track system will hold up to being doused with Simple Green? Another thing to consider is what system will work best with one power feed to the whole thing using old lamp cord found on the street.

Wow Will you're all over...2 rail...H.O.....

 

I had gone with Atlas with my 3 rail layout and I would again.  Right now getting Atlas or Scaletrax is a bit of a job but still I enjoyed Atlas's product.  That is my pref.  but Ross/Gargraves is a good choice as well.  Ross offers a huge selection of turnouts also which is a plus as it opens things up operationally. 

Willbacker45,

   I use FasTrack because it accommodates all my different trains, including old and new Tin Plate, and has great Command Control switches, operated from the Cab2 of my Legacy.  As one of the other members said, it is almost child proof when put up correctly.  I do use some RealTrax on the innermost oval of my Christmas layouts,

but prefer the FasTracks.

PCRR/Dave

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I know it Chris!  With 3RS I am here to stay, however!  Just looking at my future and the way that I hope things go 3RS makes the most sense to me.  I have been festinated by Lionels steamers for a long time and really don't want to miss out on the Vision Line offerings, but for modern diesels, nothing in plastic beats MTH's scale wheeled offerings.  Hopefullly, my future children will take to trains and MTH railking will be able to run right next to my stuff and it will be a little safer for them to run trains with me.
 
Originally Posted by N&W Class J:

Wow Will you're all over...2 rail...H.O.....

 

I had gone with Atlas with my 3 rail layout and I would again.  Right now getting Atlas or Scaletrax is a bit of a job but still I enjoyed Atlas's product.  That is my pref.  but Ross/Gargraves is a good choice as well.  Ross offers a huge selection of turnouts also which is a plus as it opens things up operationally. 

 

You will need an excellent assortment of switches and that puts the spotlight on Ross.  Buying GG track will allow you to afford all the special switches you will need.

 

IMO, it is the best overall package for three rail considering cost, availability, utilization & performance.

 

Dealers may tell you otherwise in part due to the lower profit margin in the hand crafted specialty Ross turnouts.

 

 

Originally Posted by Norm Charbonneau:

The real question is: What track system will look best with kitty litter and/or coffee grounds sprayed with brake cleaner? Also, which track system will hold up to being doused with Simple Green? Another thing to consider is what system will work best with one power feed to the whole thing using old lamp cord found on the street.

Norm, when were you in my basement?

I use scaletrax. It requires more time and patience then GG/Ross but is easier to bend and re-bend the flex track. Switches work very well(I have had some sparking/shorting issues when running Older Lionel Standard O cars). Switches used to be cheaper than ross but know they are about the same. Overall I think the best looking track.

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Originally Posted by Pine Creek Railroad:

Willbacker45,

   I use FasTrack because it accommodates all my different trains, including old and new Tin Plate, and has great Command Control switches, operated from the Cab2 of my Legacy.  As one of the other members said, it is almost child proof when put up correctly.  I do use some RealTrax on the innermost oval of my Christmas layouts,

but prefer the FasTracks.

PCRR/Dave

 

 

Dave,  Did you read Will's original post where he asked what track was best for 3 Rail SCALE ?

Fastrack is a good product but obviously has no place on a 3RS layout. Neither does Realtrax.

Have no idea why you posted anything about Fastrack on this thread...

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Originally Posted by vbkostur:
Originally Posted by Norm Charbonneau:

The real question is: What track system will look best with kitty litter and/or coffee grounds sprayed with brake cleaner? Also, which track system will hold up to being doused with Simple Green? Another thing to consider is what system will work best with one power feed to the whole thing using old lamp cord found on the street.

Norm, when were you in my basement?

 

I found my lamp chord in the basement, is that ok?

If all that is on the layout, you may want to look into one of these.

 

railvac

 

Here is an old thread(short) that had some good side by side photos of them.

And the OPs final decision, and why. Hope its helps

https://ogrforum.com/t...vs-atlas-availabilty

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Originally Posted by willbacker45:
I know it Chris!  With 3RS I am here to stay, however!  Just looking at my future and the way that I hope things go 3RS makes the most sense to me.  I have been festinated by Lionels steamers for a long time and really don't want to miss out on the Vision Line offerings, but for modern diesels, nothing in plastic beats MTH's scale wheeled offerings.  Hopefullly, my future children will take to trains and MTH railking will be able to run right next to my stuff and it will be a little safer for them to run trains with me. 

Oh I know...and 3 rail scale is a fine avenue to pursue.  I'm glad to see your around still...long time no talkie.. 

 

The Scaletrax flex is a dream to work with...it flex's VERY easily.  Some don't like the tie spacing but I think once ballasted and weathered that "issue" disappears...just look at Rich Battista's layout or CSX Al's and so on.  The only turn off is the limited selection of turnouts....Atlas being only slightly better in that department with their offerings... #5's and 7.5's...O-72,O-63,O-54 and so on.  Ross makes some darn good turnouts and they have a huge selection to choose from...some don't care for the larger ties but they make a good product and they are very reliable.  Keep us posted on what you're doing.

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I agree with Norm Charbonneau wholeheartedly.  Acquire a computer based track planning system, either RRT or SCARM (which is a free download), and see what track system works with available (even if not readily) components to meet your plan needs.

 

I have attached a copy of two SCARM files that represent a passenger terminal throat I've been designing which only seems to work using Atlas track, unless you want to start cutting Ross switches and crossings.  However, once you cut them, their resale value will be very small.

 

Without this program, I probably would have followed this forum's trend and started buying Ross switches as they became available.  But why go through the cut and fit hassle if another system works out of the box?

 

Good luck,

Chuck

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