What would you like to see Lionel make in 2014 and 2015.

I like the N&W J idea. I would also like to see a Legacy version of the 5344.

British outline locos, large and small.

Better "Trainsounds".

Traditional-sized wagon-top B&O boxcars.

0-4-0 Dockside switcher.

Locomotive kit.

Out of the box, problem free:
Vision DM&IR Yellowstone
Vision SP AC-9
Vision B&O EM-1

But Legacy on any or all of the above will be acceptable.

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Originally posted by MartyE:
More holiday houses based on current homes so I can swap them out a Christmas with the normal houses.

I agree. That would be really handy.

In addition:
* Black modules available.
* Legacy Utility program available.

* Additional FasTrack curves and switches.

I'll second some British outline locos. Expansion of the Thomas the tank line with some new engines.

Nick

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In addition:
* Black modules available.
* Legacy Utility program available.

That will be this year.

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British outline locos, large and small.

I'll third that!

A Chicago Great Western 2-10-4

More DT&I and Ann Arbor equipment

Delivery dates.

No European junk.

To begin with, I am startled to see that people want yet
other versions of prototypes I thought the market was
saturated with back when I joined TCA in the dim, dark,
distant primeval past. I was thrilled when Williams
offered the first brass Mikado, I think the first "scaleplate",
and a real freight engine, vs. passenger Pacifics and
Hudsons, became available. My dad fired Consolidations
and Mikados on freight runs and that is what worked the
coal dealer sidings at the station I misspent some of
my youth.
It was this lack of variety that caused me to buy that
first HO Varney flatcar kit in my teens and led me astray,
taking years to return to the fold. I still remember all that neat stuff that was available but was just about half the right size. In spite of advances, much
of it has never arrived in three rail.
So I vote for new prototypes from the steam era..and hold
the electronics, and anything that requires a battery, and
this applies to all the manufacturers...build it and I wil come.
Reproduce the past, and I will yawn..except to collect some
of what was MADE in the past.
In the time of John Allen, there was a lot of HO influence
on historical branchline railroading. Many of the people
with that interest seem to be in the two rail scale part of the
hobby, and if that is true, and most of our "tinplate" market
is only the Class 1 railroads, I am gonna stay frustrated.
It does look like Williams/Bachmann now has a Ten Wheeler and
a Mikado that I need to track down. I have fervently hoped and
suggested that they produce their nifty (except for gauge)
On30 stuff in On3 AND O three rail, and it all wouldn't have to be
corrected (regauged). (I hope to have an On3 interchange with
my three rail)
Lionel could make a TWO TRUCK small, 30 ton, Heisler, preferred,
although all three to include the Shay and Climax, without
the electronics and that price, would be, I think, great sellers. All the
kids that have been to Cass could then get an affordable
starter Lionel logging loco set under the tree.
And speaking of logging, Lionel, how about the 2-4-4-2 Little River
articulated, which should run on tight radii, and, without
add-ons, be affordable?

Baldwin 3-cylinder compound 4-10-2 demonstrator No. 60000 in The Train Factory (formerly Railroad Hall) at The Franklin Institute, Philadelphia.

Watching her 3-cylinder Walschaert valve gear move back and forth and up and down would be quite a sight.

Baldwin couldn't use Gresley valve gear for the center cylinder because ALCo had exclusive rights to that gear in America. Her convoluted Walschaerts valve gear was an end run. It worked. UP designers wrestled with it to replace Gresley valve gear on 9000-series 4-12-2's as maintenance costs rose (and kept on rising). As solid bearings in Gresley levers wore, valve events went out of sync and stressed the running gear and frame. Remember, these locomotives had six exhausts for every revolution of their drivers. Roller bearings in the valve gear (and on all axles) would have solved the problem, but none of the 4-12-2's received them. Those eighty-eight heavy freight locomotives could not be written off and retired, so UP designers settled on replacing the Gresley valve gear. They reduced the complexity by fashioning a second eccentric for the center cylinder valve gear. So No. 60000 is directly related to Lionel's UP 4-12-2. Maybe Lionel could offer a "bald-face" 9000. Even that program proved too expensive, so only a few were converted.

No. 60000 is also related to Santa Fe 4-8-4 No. 3751. In the 1920's, ALCo went to town with 3-cylinder locomotives. Baldwin was reduced to filling orders that ALCo was too busy to handle. After No. 60000 was constructed in early 1926 to enter the burgeoning 3-cylinder market, Baldwin built only THREE locomotives until No. 3751 was completed in 1927. The builder's plate for No. 60000 bears that number, of course. The builder's plate for No. 3751 bears the number 60004.

I second the Vision SP AC-9! Of course I rather it be 2012 catalog.

My other favorite is East African Railways Beyer-Garratt 4-8-2 + 2-8-4 Class 59. Power, elegance, international appeal. No manufacturer has offered one in 3-rail "O" Gauge.

How about a legacy Niagara?

Add more memory to the legacy handheld for recording. Currently you can only record around 5 to 6 minutes and it is full.

Locomotives with the SAME level of detail as the Joshua Lionel Cowen series.
PLEASE.

Y6b
Cab Forward
Allegheny
EM-1
Triplex
Veranda Turnine
Vision 2-8-0

Eliot

I'd go for a new Lionel B&O EM1 under the following conditions:

1) Accurate boiler with pure cylindrical third course...like the Max Gray
and Challenger HO versions.
2) boiler retooled so as not to shrink and lose 5 to 8% of its correct
outside diameter.
3) sound...New chipset with accurate EM1 hooter whistle and improved
locomotive sounds to compliment this awesome machine.

Go ahead and do it, Lionel. I triple-dog dare ya!

a vision y6a and a vision great northern s2 4-8-4 and of course a vision or legacy n&w j with all the goodies- whistle smoke,dynamo smoke and steam cylinder smoke.

Going out to left field, how about a series of locomotives that were planned but never built? Begin with Baltimore & Ohio No. 5800 Class W-1, designed by George H. Emerson and his Mechanical Engineer, Bill Whitsett. This streamlined 4-8-4 was actually a 4-2-2-2-2-4. Each set of drivers was geared to a 4-cylinder steam engine. It would have a single-drum water-tube firebox and a huge Vanderbilt tender carrying 23 tons of coal and 22,500 gallons of water. Fully loaded, that tender would weigh 250,000 lbs. Mt. Clare Shops began to fabricate the boiler, and one set of drivers and steam engines were set up for testing in a shed. But after a while the project was quietly canceled. The boiler was completed and modified and placed on Pacific No. 5310, the PRESIDENT TAYLOR. Voila, a companion locomotive, like Baldwin No. 60000 and a "bald-face" UP 90000, as well as Santa Fe 3751 (see above).

A candidate with LOTS of relatives is a proposed Jersey Central 4-8-4 (1933). After former B&O Engineer Revelle W. Brown became President of the Reading Company, he asserted his fondness for steam locomotives by championing the construction of 20 (then 30) T-1 4-8-4's. Nods to Lehigh Valley 4-8-4's ("Wyomings") were the class letter ("T") and the numbers (5100 became 2100). Reading designers also consulted plans for that Jersey Central 4-8-4, as well as those for 4-8-4's on the Cotton Belt, Delaware, Lackawanna & Western, Denver & Rio Grande Western, Rock Island, and Wabash.

Cotton Belt 814 and Reading T-1's headed excursion trains, so that suggests a Railfan Excursion Series that could include Milwaukee 261, Burlington 5632 and 4960 (rebuilt by Grand Canyon Railway), Nickel Plate 765, and a host of others.

An accurate PLATED Western Pacific F3. Which would mean an A-B-B.

Re-release the SD40T-2 with corrections made to eliminate the large gap between the trucks and the front/rear pilot steps, and with appropriately sized fuel tanks to distinguish between the original SP and Rio Grande units. Also with a red gyralite that is actually RED, and be able to turn it on or off.

Re-release of the scale cab forward AC12 with Legacy features, specifically with a smoke unit simulating the air compressor exhausts on the smokebox front as per the prototype. That would be cool.

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Originally posted by John Korling:
Re-release the SD40T-2 with corrections made to eliminate the large gap between the trucks and the front/rear pilot steps, and with appropriately sized fuel tanks to distinguish between the original SP and Rio Grande units. Also with a red gyralite that is actually RED, and be able to turn it on or off.

Re-release of the scale cab forward AC12 with Legacy features, specifically with a smoke unit simulating the air compressor exhausts on the smokebox front as per the prototype. That would be cool.

Yes, to all of the above.

Veranda Turbine, UP Gas Turbine 3 piece set, Scale size Pennsylvania Turbine, Chessie T-1, NYC Mohawk, all updated to Legacy.

And for the Postwar Celebration Series, I would like to see the Pyro military sets and US Navy Sets!

I would like to see more Legacy operating cars and some Legacy Accessories. How about:

A new Legacy Backshop
Legacy inter-modal crane with sounds

a legacy tender, where the coal level drops as the engine runs. Bring it to a coal chute, and the coal level rises back up to simulate it being refilled with coal.

Legacy crew talk caboose with smoke

I would like to see a legacy UP steam switcher.

I know this is beating a dead horse but I'd like Lionel to step up to the plate and start offering an Affordable line of command control engines again.I'm not a diesel guy never have been never will be .Yes I do have some diesels but to me model railroading is steam engines but not at $800 to $2000.

There are alot of other command control options out there. It's safe to say IMO whatever Lionel comes out with in 2013 will be over priced and under built.
I guess they wanna be like Ford,GM and Chrysler

David

Bring back engine numbers in the announcements.

The items Lionel added are just not worth removing the engine number!!!

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Originally posted by Dave Allen:

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British outline locos, large and small.

I'll third that!

Me too!
I would also love a follow up to the great 0-6-0t docksider of a few years back. A 2-6-0 or even a modern 4-4-0 would be great.
An engine I would like is a NY Elevated Forney but I am not holding my breath.
I also like the newer traditional sized steamers like the Van S Berk.from the Polar Express set, the 0-8-0 starter set engine and so on. More common USRA engines should make this series like a Pacific or the like.

I am in for a Cotton Belt 4-8-4 #819 - maybe 2
Also would like to see that SP AC-4 cab forward that never made it out. Frisco #1522 would be great as well.

I would like to see:

E-6's in Mo.Pac. w/15" Alum. cars. ( I run the shorty cars)
E-6/8's in Frisco Red w/gold stripes
FP-7's in Can. Nat. Zebra W/white /Black 15" Alum. cars w/Skytop Obs.
(The Super Continential)
15" Alum operating RPO car ( like AM.Fly. postal toss/pick-up car)
PWC remake of operating Train Station Arrival board w/sync'd sound chip
SUPER O TRACK SYSTEM - Continue refining details on the track for the time when
economy makes a comeback so it can be produced
Tool up the van unloading accessory so it can be remotely/command controlled
Like the lunber unloader fork lift
Alco diesels for the Menard's Wisconsin Central, & the C&NW O27 Pass. Sets
252 Crossing Gate refined with red L.E.D.'s on gate/Alt. flashing

Dennis M.

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Originally posted by gregj410:
Out of the box, problem free:
Vision DM&IR Yellowstone
Vision SP AC-9
Vision B&O EM-1

But Legacy on any or all of the above will be acceptable.

I wouldnt rule out the EM-1, perhaps even for 2012 we may see one.

A scale detailed talking station with sounds of the steam era. Perhaps with styling based upon the old NOMA station with an operating clock in the tower.

a vission triplex

How a about bringing out the Southern 4501 with the swinging bell or smoking whistle. I would be up for one in green and one in black.

FasTrack in O27 and 31 curves and switches.

Cab 1.5 and Command Base 1.5. Or a PowerHouse/Master all in one!

Conv. engines where you ould "plug and play" an ERR TMCC board for the conv. e-unit.

How about an Adams Family Vision line locomotive. Goes 6 feet down track and blows up!