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In many steam videos' when the engine begins to start the train there is "wheel slip" for at least one revolution, sometimes more. Does this represent poor technique on the part of the engineer, or is it a normal unavoidable part of the process of getting a heavy train with a big engine on it's way.

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While it could signify bad technique (if not stopped quickly, for example), most of the time it's just a normal outcome of trying to get the train moving. And it doesn't have to be a "big" engine either--our 0-4-0T will slip when starting, before she "digs in"and starts moving. Train weight, oil, wet leaves or water on the rail, temperature, grade--all these things come into play.

 

Personally, I think it's pretty neat to see from the gound.

Originally Posted by Happy Pappy:

I personally know of a engineer that received two warnings and terminated less than a year later for the third.

That sure sounds hard to believe. Small wheel slips when starting certainly aren't unusual, even by experienced engineers. It happens. Now, maybe if he slipped for a few minutes at a time, like on some of those other videos...

Read a story years ago about the Union Pacific and they got a Centennial stuck.

The railroad bed had washed out and they were stuck when the ties and rails sunk

in the mud. They brought in another Centennial and there was a rookie engineer behind the controls. They latched onto the stuck Locomotive and instead of easing into it, he punched it and left 16 crescent shaped gouges in the tops of the rails.

 

Thanks for the video Nicole. I was surprised that the person filming the wheel-slip was so close to the locomotive. I remember the Alco WDM-2. You could feel it approaching even before you saw it. I remember waiting / taking a nap at hometown train station (rural, non-electrified route) & when any train arrived, the noise & vibration generated by the WDM2 was hard to ignore, sleep-through or forget.

Thanks,

Naveen Rajan

 

 

Originally Posted by N.Q.D.Y.:

Here's a nice video of an Alco being used to polish the rails in India. 

 

You are correct, John. That well-known image is damage from a remote control unit that just sat there slowly slipping for several minutes. I think this was operator error. These remote systems are designed with a fail-safe mode. If they lose the signal from the transmitter, they go to idle and stop.

 

That appears to be the marks left by one truck of a 6-axle unit. There are probably six more just out of camera range to the right!

Originally Posted by N.Q.D.Y.:

Here's a nice video of an Alco being used to polish the rails in India. 

In my home town of monroe nc.I was at the train station and a train carrying new rail backed into the freightyard.2 ge locomotives pushing for all there worth.Well one wheel was sliping  and turn and slip again.Wow and I thought only steam locomotives did that.I mean starting out with a heavy train sometimes.

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