Which to Buy: Lionel or MTH Empire State Express Hudson?

Cosmetically both are very close. Both have big Pittman motors. Lionel has two chuffs but command. MTH has PS1 so confirm from the seller it works and change out the battery when you get it.

Pete

Pete above is correct, …which features are you looking for is the question you need to ask yourself,….the early MTH engine you mention above is conventional only, and will require a pricy upgrade if command is in your future……

Pat

Glad to know this.  Thank you Pete and Pat for your response.

John

Yes, both are high-quality. I'm familiar with both. Lionel's does have an added feature: the bottom of the firebox skirts is intended to be removed, should you want to run it as they were later in life.

To add to the choice list - back in the day, Weaver also offered a nice brass version, conventional only, all soundless, I think.

There is an MTH ESE with PS2 ans I have one. I love it. Aesthetically, it should match up with your passenger cars.

Thank you all.  Based on your responses, I went ahead and ordered the MTH MT-3016L version, new in the box, for what I believe to be a reasonable price.  I was aware of MTH's PS2 version and, if comparably priced (doubtful), I would have preferred it over the MT-3016L, but I haven't seen the PS2 version for sale.

Keep one important thing in mind.  ProtoSound (PS1) engines are frequently finicky to master.  They require precise sequencing of throttle motions to get them to roll, and are picky about transformers.

Most frequently newbies put them on the track, and haphazardly power up the throttle expecting them to move immediately.  When they don't we frequently get a subsequent post here along the lines of "All I get is two 'clanks' from the sound system.  It won't move.  I think it's toast"

Nothing could be further from the truth but you'll need to be patient and learn the ropes.

Rule No. 1:. Check the battery inside before doing anything else.  If it's white change it immediately.  Put in a green one instead, although there are other options too.

Mike

Good advice, Mike.  I have a few PS1 engines, so I'm fairly familiar with them.  The seller has agreed to fully test this one before shipment, and I plan to install a BCU after I receive it.

I meant to say BCR.

@John Daniel posted:

Good advice, Mike.  I have a few PS1 engines, so I'm fairly familiar with them.  The seller has agreed to fully test this one before shipment, and I plan to install a BCU after I receive it.

Keep in mind, …the engine you bought has 4 traction tires, ..the tires on the engine when you get it will more than likely be petrified and about ready to fall off….stock up at mthpartsandsales.com

Pat

Here’s your tire’s part number for reference,…

Pat

I have the complete Century Club set and extra tender.  Really  a nice set