Williams #40499 S-2 Turbine Help

I've had Williams with bad boards, flywheels that were pressed down too far and rubbing the can motor and broken wires - easy repairs.

If the deal is good, buy it.

Williams does not use command systems like TMCC or DCS. Williams is strictly conventional control. The problem could be any of those that SPSF posted.

Maybe a short in the Seuthe smoke unit or a pinched wire.

It should be easy to fix but the only way to know is to check it out.

BrianEso,

How does the retailer know the unit don't run, if it is brand new in the box? For him to know means it is no longer 100% brand new in box, it would be best to say 'brand new and opened to test run only.'

Otherwise you might be buying somebody else's problem child.

If your retailer will sell it 50% of what he normally gets for a workable unit then maybe you can buy it, otherwise you are looking at a possibility of spending some hard earned money and then having to fix it again for almost what you spent at first.

Try www.trainworld.com and see if they have a Williams S-2 on clearance sale. I think that you will do better to spend a few more dollars for a working unit.

Lee Fritz

The retailer is in Conn. I do not know the name of the company. A buddy of mine noticed the unit on the shelf in the store and new that I was a collector of the 6-8-6 Pennsy Locomitives. The Williams is the only one I do not have and I want one.

The retailer said it came from the factory that way. It has been on his shelf for a few years and only opened it to test for a different buyer. Put it on track and nothing happened. No lights, power or hums. To me being the NOVICE I am, I am guessing a broken wire somewhere. I looked around my area and can not find any info on this unit as to what it is worth New.

Also I can Purchase this unit for $89.00 includes shipping

Lee,

I just checked Trainworld and they do have one listed for $189.00 Brand new.

I sent an email to see if they have one in stock.

Thanks for the heads up.

I can't imagine a NOS item not running at all.  Sounds like a loose wire.  I waited a long time to get a Williams steamer and bought this model.  However you get it (or another one) moving down your tracks, you will not be disappointed.

Brian,

I read your posts about being a novice and you will do better by buying the engine from Train World. I have bought three items from there and have been satisfied very much with Train World. Other then waiting on a pre-order I have absolutely no complaints with Train World.

Any way I have about 12 Williams engines before Bachmann and have done some work on them myself. The S-2 would be a good bargain for me to fix up and sell but the shipping might eat up any profit for me being in West Palm Beach FL.

I have installed a motor upgrade kit in an F-7 A unit by Williams, it was not that bad except for two things; one I had to drill the holes just a bit larger that go over the motor area to mount the side brake & axle cover, and two the new motors did not match the speed of my older motors in my other F-7 A unit. So I put the new motors inside another F-7 unit(swapped shells so it was easy) I had and got a set of matching motors for a Santa Fe passenger car set I bought.

Lee Fritz

Brian,

If, the only information that you have, is that the locomotive is 'BRANDEEE NEW,' but don't run, watch out, unless the merchant is practically giving you the item for a very inexpensive price!

The least you can do, with it, if it is unrepairable, is to use for siding scenery.

I once bought a 'BRANDEEE NEW,' locomotive for close to $400.00, and did not work properly, of which I found out that someone tried to repair it, but was unsuccessful.

Almost $200.00 more, which a Lionel Technician had to replace and repair a few parts, did the darn thing run as it was supposed to!!!!!

Good Luck,

Ralph 

Lee,

Thanks again for your guidance. For the extra $100.00 I get Brand new with a warranty. That works for me.

Thank You ALL for the help I have received through-out this forum and multiple posts.

Your welcome Brian. I don't mind helping you at all.

Lee Fritz