York rules on cell phones

Could you have your patients turn in the phones at the desk of your office without running afoul of some useless/obscure  government regulation or the ACLU?

From what I see on the highway, I may be the only person that pulls off the road to

use the phone (cars are a hobby but I hate doing bodywork, so strive to avoid it).

Making them illegal to use in medical facilities, and ENFORCED..like with drunk driving

where convicted miscreants had their property (cars) confiscated, so should phones

be in addition to usual but made much harsher court action.

It is a nuisance to have to watch out for and avoid people who don't get it...weaving, slowing way down for no apparent reason except for their hand up to their ear...here they say distractions cause more accidents than the lushes.

Certain cities and states ignore Constitutional rights and Supreme Court decisions

and confiscate firearms, let them go after phones.

Cell Jammers are available online.

I will venture to say that they range from individual models through to models large enough to silence and jam a movie theater.

I will also say that there is no where in the United States where it is legal to operate one on or about your person. However a Business or other place with interest can probably use one without fear of interference.

Cell Jammers are prevalent outside the US.  The New York Theatres have been campaigning to legalize them at least inside the auditoriums -- and perhaps only when the curtain is up. Pretty darn annoying when you pay a few hundred dollars for your ticket, only to have Hamlet interrupted by a "delightful" customized ringtone.

And there ARE many places where the prohibition is actually enforced -- clubs, hospitals, medical offices, theaters & other performance halls, gyms....

Cell phone jammers, are you serious!!!!!  The first time somebody misses a emergency call because of a cell phone jammer the first lawsuit will be filed. End of jammers!!!!! I have no problems with cell phones at York . Easy to go outside if needed. 

Hey John, take a deep breath and don't worry so much about cell phone usage. Worry about the important stuff like family and job.

John, you are doing dentistry for a living.Charge the people for the wasted time at your going rate. Put a sign in your waiting room stating cell phone cost.

Put a second sign (adjustable) in the office waiting room saying how much delayed their appointment is because of cell phone useage. Adjust it as delays become longer during the day.

Ha-ha!  That's a great tactic!  I love it! 

Yes, I admit I'm a "old fart". That being said, I have a cell phone in my car for "very important use". In the last 4 years I've used it 3 times.

Cell phones have, however, allowed me to finally get some use out of my car's horn. Beep, beep, you idiot...the light has turned GREEN!

Train show-wise, I have walked behind a few at Allentown who could not walk and talk at the same time.

Like it or not, the York rule on cell phone use is not likely to change until such time as a new and more in-tune-with-the-times Eastern Div. board of directors comes on the scene.  And that likely won't occur until meet participation--dealers, sellers, and members alike--continues to gradually erode (as it inevitably will) to the point where the Eastern Division membership as a whole begins to sit up and take notice.

In the meantime, just learn to live with and abide by all the rules or simply stay home.  And if you know some newly recruited members who came on board via the TCA's recent open door policy, make sure they understand all the rules before they attend the meet.  Nothing could be more harmful to the TCA then to have a new member report--here or somewhere else--being hassled by the rent-a-cops at his or her first York Meet.

Back handed slaps in the face really don't help your cause.

Maybe not but he does get temporary relief by consulting the OGR walk-in counseling clinic.    John...  please send a money order for $140.   

I find that the problem isn't the device in question.  The problem is the person using the device.  It seems that more and more people care less and less about others around them.  If all cell phones were suddenly made to vanish, would the world be a better place?  Would people be less rude?  I don't think so.  I think it would just manifest in different ways.

I think there is an answer to the problem but until enough people in society are willing to let there be negative consequences for bad behavior, things won't change.  

Cheer up.  Things could always be worse.  There might be no such thing as model trains... 

My post wasn't aimed at John.

So, put up a similar sign in your waiting room telling them to go outside if they need to use their cell phone.  Surely you have a receptionist that can be instructed to point to the sign and direct patients to the hallway?

As for stopping in mid-procedure - that's your choice to do so and you might consider taking back control of your surgery.  Just tell them that once started, you cannot stop.

As for billing for delays....that will work only for as long as one's appointments are on schedule.  Sitting in waiting rooms well past an appontment time is a chronic condition for the vast majority of medical offices.

As for York, given the epidemic numbers of folks that seem totally infatuated with staring down at their phones and unable to function or even walk a straight line, it's probably for the best to continue the ban if only for safety reasons.

I just hope there is a place in Dante's  inner circle of h*** where the jerk(s) who invented cell phones are forever forced to listen to all sorts of ring tones and incessent, bland, rude LOUD conversations 24/7/365 forever without any manner of shutting it off (no arms/hands to cover the ears) AND they must answer their cell phone and listen to conversation end to end or face another extremely painful firey inceneration or pitchfork jab!!

Just watch a busload of kids get dropped off at the bustop. 4 out of 5 will be texting someone as they step off the bus.  My last 2 cellphones are nailed to my garage wall with a 16d doublehead nail.  The bane of modern man.  I love going fishing on the weekend and leaving it at home.  Nobody can bother me then.

I'm a little slow.  I see that now.

I think my other comments still apply.  

I would be interested in joining a group that embraced technology (and strollers) and found a way to make it work in a positive way for them. Perhaps that might be the TCA someday? Perhaps another group? Majority rules though and these are the rules today. So personally, I will be staying home as Allan suggests.

Ditto.  Would love to go but don't want to be hasseled by rent a cop.

You won't be hassled by anyone as long as you're willing to abide by the simple rules.

Could imagine a response in this tone from the Hamlet (or any other play/concert/opera) cast.

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So personally, I will be staying home as Allan suggests.

You may wish to avoid visiting Stockbridge Ma too.

I was there last weekend, and there was no cellphone service.

If you have a complaint, I think that it is somewhere in this song.    

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATXV3DzKv68

Complaining is Universal.    The ChicagoLand version is HERE.

It's just not fair!!  But then, who said Life was supposed to be fair?

Said it before: I make a good living from high technology but cellphones in the hands of mere mortals is a very bad idea!

BTW, did you know the cellphone was actually invented pre-WWII?  In retrospect they should have waited another hundred years to release it. 

Relax John. Come the recession of 2013-2014 I'm sure half of those 'data contracts' will go belly up, just like those inappropriate mortgages did 2008 - present. What I find most scandalous is the net electromagnetic radiation we are all being subjected to and the possible health problems it is generating across generations.

My family & I? We are still all on 'voice only Sprint.!'

IMO, cell phones take a pleasant mannered courteous normal human being and morph them into the  roadkill speed bumps of life.  When used, it places one into a trance & acts like a slow motion pill.  I prefer not to be behind a cell phoine user when they are driving or shopping (York).

As far as strollers. IMO especially due to reduced crowds in recent years, their ban is not a safety issue but to counter the deaf selfish parents who let their unmanaged brats scream unattended.

Excellent point.  Wonder how much squealing we'll hear from the "embrace technology" crowd if their tech-savvy children start developing serious health problems a few years down the road...  Who do I blame?  Who can I sue?

Not Hamlet, but from a Star of "Evita" 14 Jul.:

"2 drunk unruly women in the 5th row (talking on the phone) were just thrown out of our theater.  Pull it together people"

Please don't tell me that she Tweeted that during the performance!

Try entering a room to do dental surgery and have your patient talking about shopping and vacation with her best friend.  Better yet they sit up during extractions and so on to answer the phone regardless of all the signs in my office asking you not to.  As far as the EMF we are being bathed in from all the cell phone signals my neurology and oncology peers are telling me they are seeing a sharp rise in brain pathology that remains unexplained (including brain cancer).  But of course when the industry is a multi billion dollar cash cow this information will be buried.  Recently had a patient buy her four year old a cellular smart phone.  She carries it with her all day, inches from her brain, talking to her little friends on it.  When the crap hits the fan you will find this technology to be a health disaster one day...I guarantee it.  I don't want to be hit with the EMF while eating dinner from the idiots around me talking about nothing important.

To me, the violinist's restrained reaction was a perfect example of a gentleman with class, reserved, possessed of humility, considerate, kind, and managing to inject humor into an awkward and unfortunate moment.

Thank you for posting that.