Z4000 Question

Remember that the Proto 1 loco has a smoke unit that may also be drawing amps if its turned on. If the unit is turned on, turn it off and see what your amp draw is.

BINGO!  Thanks Carl, a flick of the switch and it dropped.  So I'm thinking that normal draw using smoke is an amp or so?  Now its sitting right where the PA setup is, 3.3-3.4 at 11volts.  Thanks for schooling me on this.

Here are some data pointsfrom my Z4000:

• Hungriest train I have: Lionel Santa Fe Anniversary Pasenger train: ABBA F3 with four - count'em four pullmor motors, seven lighted cars (incandescent).  Runing at a scale 75-80 mph, 15 volts at 9 amps!  Stationary in neutral (same setting): 16 volts at 2.8 amps
• Same cars pulled by newer Lionel ABA F3 set with two can motors: running at scale 75-80 mph, 15 volts at 4.6 amps.  Neutral: 16 volts at 2.3 amps
• Legacy Berkshire plus lighted scale caboose and thirteen scale reefers: 13 volts at 3.7 amps.
• MTH European series 241.A plus five lighted heavyweight madison cars: 14 volts at 6.1 amps.
• Four powered RMT BEEFS(all powered - total eight small can motors)  pulling 24-car Army flatcar with diecast tanks (heaviest train I have - engines really working); 15 volts at 6 amps.
• Remote Thomas pulled three sets (four cars total) of Annie and Clarabel : 16 volts at 1.2 amps

Thanks Lee, good comparison.  My knowledge level isn't quite up there yet to distinguish between Can and Pullmor motors, I'm getting there but that'll end up in my next round of questions.

Just for curiosity sake, any chance you can tell me the amp draw on that Thomas setup at 75-80 scale mph?  I was just curious if Lionel built in wind swept cheeks and tears that run from his eyes at the higher speeds, not to mention the vulgar cab chatter that would be thrown out at that level either....Just kidding, thanks for the numbers.

Joe

FWIW, I have a 2360 GG-1 that draws 5.6 amps when pulling a freight train with two operating searchlight cars, and a lighted caboose. My 726 draws about 3.8 to 4.1 amps, this is at 12 volts for both locos. Any MTH loco that draws more than 3 amps running light gets looked at carefully. Postwar locos are usually around 3 amps, single motors, 4.5 or more for two motored units. 

hello guys and gals.........

Mine Sunset S.F. 5011 draws from 0.7 to 1.2 amps (after break in from 3 hours of running and putting in fresh red and tacky #2) at 40 scale mile per hour by itself. There is no mechanical binding or problems.  I guess the Pittman motor draws almost like the postwar pullmor motors do.  I got this information from my Z4000. 

the woman who loves the S.F.#5011

Tiffany