(09/26/19) New Train Cars from Menards!

I like these new cars. Especially the Chicago North Western box car.

Will we ever see some 50's era black single dome oil tankers ?

This is a test...

What's wrong with this car?

Rusty

Should be "N" over "H", Not "H" Over "N".  It's not "Hew  Naven", It's "New Haven".

The N&H are wrong, should be N on top

I noticed that, too

Bill T posted:

Will we ever see some 50's era black single dome oil tankers ?

Yes, cheap tankers that can be easily two-railed.

Rusty, looks like the N is on the bottom. I lkie the CNW box car and the J Shephard and son box car...Paul 2

Rusty Traque posted:

This is a test...

What's wrong with this car?

Rusty

The lettering is correct, the car is upside down

Rusty Traque posted:

This is a test...

What's wrong with this car?

Rusty

You mean you haven't heard of the Haven New Railroad? 

I suspect that this is just a graphic sample and will be corrected for production?

GG1 4877 posted:

Rusty Traque posted:

This is a test...

What's wrong with this car?

Rusty

You mean you haven't heard of the Haven New Railroad? 

I suspect that this is just a graphic sample and will be corrected for production?

I thought it might be the Hew Naven RR.

Rusty

Instant collector's item!

Maybe it's to avoid a licensing fee?

PRRMP54 posted:

Bill T posted:

Will we ever see some 50's era black single dome oil tankers ?

Yes, cheap tankers that can be easily two-railed.

I been asking for a plain black 8000 gal  since Menards started selling cars, It took a few years to get a beer company. Who knows?

The Jack boxcar is full of dog food?

Tuscan Jim posted:

Maybe it's to avoid a licensing fee?

Nope.  The box car is correct, at least lettering-wise.

Rusty

GG1 4877 posted

I suspect that this is just a graphic sample and will be corrected for production?

One of the things people like about Menards, is that they don't advertise a product until it is available for purchase. So I strongly suspect this is not a production sample, but the actual production run. A quick check on the Menards website, shows the dealer pack for this same car, and every car pictured has the logo lettering upside down.

Lionel gets bashed quite a bit for things of this same sort, but as this illustrates, it's not just Lionel that has this type of problem. And I'm not knocking Chinese production either, but I can see how this sort of thing can happen when your workforce doesn't speak English. There certainly are other production variables to be considered.

I would guess this is part of the reasoning as to why Scott Mann and Jason Shron (of Rapido) spend so much time overseas themselves. Rapido also has their own dedicated factory, which many others don't.

brianel_k-lineguy posted:

GG1 4877 posted

I suspect that this is just a graphic sample and will be corrected for production?

One of the things people like about Menards, is that they don't advertise a product until it is available for purchase. So I strongly suspect this is not a production sample, but the actual production run. A quick check on the Menards website, shows the dealer pack for this same car, and every car pictured has the logo lettering upside down.

Lionel gets bashed quite a bit for things of this same sort, but as this illustrates, it's not just Lionel that has this type of problem. And I'm not knocking Chinese production either, but I can see how this sort of thing can happen when your workforce doesn't speak English. There certainly are other production variables to be considered.

I would guess this is part of the reasoning as to why Scott Mann and Jason Shron (of Rapido) spend so much time overseas themselves. Rapido also has their own dedicated factory, which many others don't.

While language is a barrier, it is not as significant as one might think.  This can happen anywhere in the world as most of the production work force are not train people, don't know that it's supposed to look like, and mistakes happen in what is a niche production market.   

You are correct that Scott does spend a significant amount of his time in China for QA / QC purposes.  Even then mistakes get through production.  I know of several errors on the work I've done for Scott over the last 10 years; some my mistakes and some factory mistakes.  Some have been obvious while most are not and I'm not telling what they are.  

Menards makes a good product for the market they are in for a very fair price.   I'm sure they will sell well anyway to someone looking for something a little different.  My GGD pre-production Congo coach spelled "Pennsyylvania" is one of my favorite parts of my collection!

Question for a Menard's representative. Are your New Haven gondolas mentioned above here and where they painted correctly or not. 

You have to go ahead and buy the gondolas or you might be considered a "rivet counter".

Gondolas are the freight cars that are most likely to show signs of damage and be coated with rust. 

Bang up the sides of the gondola with a solder gun and add some rust or grime.

Andrew

I'm probably going to get a few, they are going to end up carrying Legos and Hotwheels. Lettering doesn't make too much difference to us.

brianel_k-lineguy posted:

GG1 4877 posted

I suspect that this is just a graphic sample and will be corrected for production?

One of the things people like about Menards, is that they don't advertise a product until it is available for purchase. So I strongly suspect this is not a production sample, but the actual production run. A quick check on the Menards website, shows the dealer pack for this same car, and every car pictured has the logo lettering upside down.

You do realize that those dealer pack images are made up of a picture of a single car that’s been copied to make it look like four cars?   They don’t actually line up four separate cars for each dealer pack picture.

I wonder if there is any QC inspection of the rolling stock during the DC receiving process.