I’m thinking about ordering a PRR N6B cabin car. Because the MTH Premier N6B’s are hard to find and pricey too. I’d like to order the Cumberland Valley Wayfreight set. But it’s way out of my price rage.
This is an easy catalog to look at. Not a thing I'm interested in!
Yeah, the N6b's are enticing. Because you can never be too thin, too rich, or have too many cabin cars. 
But I couldn't tell. Are they both center cupolas? The N6b's, because they were built by the divisions, were not all as standard as might be expected of the "standard railroad of the world". Some had off-center cupolas.
Anybody know?
George
Was looking to buy the Heritage engines prior to this catalog. Since they were and still are going for premium prices will be ordering these instead. Katy, CNW & SP for sure
I haven't bought anything new in awhile with all their problems but will probably take a chance and order the N6B cabooses.
MKT SD70 is tempting. Since I can't find one normally. Also Bazooka Joe. Those fun summer days at the baseball park candy stand.
The L1 is a no brainer for Pennsy fans. It was one of their largest classes, and factoring inflation in (even before the recent economic issues) it’s cheaper than when MTH last offered it in 2007. It’s also got whistle steam! Seeing as the MTH version is rare as hens teeth, (yes I know there is one in the for sale forum) I preordered one. I just hope the gearbox is solid and the paint is correct. NO SILVER SMOKE BOXES! I went for the Juniata built 1369 with the early Trainphone prototype.
I also picked up an N6b mainly because they correctly called it a cabin car, but also because those are somewhat rare too. I might get another in the MoW yellow.
@rplst8 posted:The L1 is a no brainer for Pennsy fans. It was one of their largest classes, and factoring inflation in (even before the recent economic issues) it’s cheaper than when MTH last offered it in 2007. It’s also got whistle steam! Seeing as the MTH version is rare as hens teeth, (yes I know there is one in the for sale forum) I preordered one. I just hope the gearbox is solid and the paint is correct. NO SILVER SMOKE BOXES! I went for the Juniata built 1369 with the early Trainphone prototype.
I know literally zero about the prototype, but the Legacy L1s have to be one of the best bargains in Legacy steam in a long time. I hope it turns out perfect for you!
Well actually nothing in that catalog tweaked my interest,.. perhaps next time.
@Rider Sandman posted:I know literally zero about the prototype, but the Legacy L1s have to be one of the best bargains in Legacy steam in a long time. I hope it turns out perfect for you!
Thanks! And you’re spot on too! It is a really good deal! The MTH L1 tooling was great so we know the detail will be there, and adding Legacy sounds and whistle steam should make it a nice package. MTH never did the L1 in PS3 so an updated sound set was due. Hopefully it has the correct PRR banshee whistle.
Wondering what the differences are between the original release of the UP Heritage units and this release, beyond the PTC antenna and the multiple horn and bell sounds?
I ordered a Cab3 base last time…….nothing is “gotta have” from this one….
Peter
I'm planning on the Billups crossing (I've been waiting for someone to make this for a couple years now), a L1 and N6b.
I wish they offered PRR L1 #520 as a stand alone piece......since the #520 is the only remaining example of the PRR L1 it would be cool to own, but of course Lionel marketing figured it would be popular and made it part of a pricey set .........
@Mikado 4501 posted: ...snip... But that Billups Crossing Signal is so macabre and out there, I love it.
That is the only item in the catalog that looks interesting to me.
Forget what i said earlier in this thread
i can't get anything from this catalog probably
i feel priced out and extremely jealous of those who can fully enjoy this hobby and legacy stuff ect
sometimes i feel like giving up
Not a darn thing. Nothing I can run on 036 track that catches my eye. I’d get the LC+ Great Northern NW2 if I didn’t already have the Williams version. Oh, well…
@SusieQ posted:I wish they offered PRR L1 #520 as a stand alone piece......since the #520 is the only remaining example of the PRR L1 it would be cool to own, but of course Lionel marketing figured it would be popular and made it part of a pricey set .........
There is one in the for sale forum right now.
@SusieQ posted:I wish they offered PRR L1 #520 as a stand alone piece......since the #520 is the only remaining example of the PRR L1 it would be cool to own, but of course Lionel marketing figured it would be popular and made it part of a pricey set .........
Get in touch with Mr. Muffins Trains. Steve has been known to break up sets fairly often. It certainly couldn't hurt to ask.
@SusieQ, other than many years later, a lot better set of wheels, the older models jumped going through turnouts, the flanges needed trimming, Blue Tooth capable, better horn selection, better bell selection, most of all “ Warranty”. I had all 7 or 8 of the first offerings, sold them all. I’m looking at the Katy version. Happy Railroading Everyone
The challengers are nice, but since they come without smoke deflectors and a high price tag, I’ll pass. Looking forward to finally get my hands on the Katy and MP heritage units!
@G3750 posted:Yeah, the N6b's are enticing. Because you can never be too thin, too rich, or have too many cabin cars.
But I couldn't tell. Are they both center cupolas? The N6b's, because they were built by the divisions, were not all as standard as might be expected of the "standard railroad of the world". Some had off-center cupolas.
Anybody know?
George
The MTH N6b tooling (guessing that's what this is) was for a center cupola only.
The DT&I L1 is unique, local and will be on my list. My first Lionel preorder in several years. Ironic that it's MTH tooling. 😁
Nothing I’m interested in. Maybe the ATSF Mikado for my collection but I think its another non prototypical engine for us Santa Fe suckers. I was hoping they would do the 3460 Mth with whistle steam like the 2-10-4s.
I dont know why but I have no interest in the Challengers. When I have later VL Challengers it just doesn't seem that interesting an engine to add.
@Alec_6460 posted:Nothing I’m interested in. Maybe the ATSF Mikado for my collection but I think its another non prototypical engine for us Santa Fe suckers. I was hoping they would do the 3460 Mth with whistle steam like the 2-10-4s.
I dont know why but I have no interest in the Challengers. When I have later VL Challengers it just doesn't seem that interesting an engine to add.
actually, the PRR did really sell 3 L1s to ATSF in the 40s.
@RickO posted:Get in touch with Mr. Muffins Trains. Steve has been known to break up sets fairly often. It certainly couldn't hurt to ask.
Thanks........that's a great suggestion.......as noted, it can't hurt to ask.
@rplst8 posted:There is one in the for sale forum right now.
Thanks. I'll take a look but my focus is on a Legacy based version.
@Bob posted:The MTH N6b tooling (guessing that's what this is) was for a center cupola only.
Oh! So this is the MTH tooling?
George
I will be getting a Base-3, as well as Greenbrier #613 and all the matching heavyweight cars.
I think I liked the Big Book better, but there are still a few things in here I would at least like to have at some point. Basically one of the 2-6-0's, either Strasburg or the Middlestown & Humblestown, the PRR and NYC FA-2's, the N6b's and the UP H-15-44. I also liked some of the traditional O boxcars, mainly the Chevy and Ford ones, and then especially the Bazooka one too. And even though I don't know if I'd ever get it, I like that they made another scale version of a Postwar locomotive with the blue Marine Corps diesels.
I tend to shy away from Lionel products (So many negative experiences lately) but it is really difficult to pass up either the M&H 91 or SRC 89. Both engines I grew up around, and I already bit the bullet and went for the York 17 and SRC 90 models when those were announced. I would like to see the cylinders changed from sliding valves to piston valves though to better represent the CN E10a class, but I know that isn't happening since that'd cost money to retool.
Nothing this time. Still waiting on the DM&IR ore car 6 packs I ordered from V1.
Midway games 3 pack.
@Alec_6460 posted:Nothing I’m interested in. Maybe the ATSF Mikado for my collection but I think its another non prototypical engine for us Santa Fe suckers.
***AHEM***
Numbered 882, 883, 884. They didn't last long; 1945-1947. 882 was the only one of the three not to receive the standard AT&SF boiler tube pilot.
Rusty
Looks like my wallet got spared this time, no engines interested me this time.
Looks like 2500.00 is the new norm for the top-of-the-line engines. I have so many engines now and that kind of money is over the breaking point for me.
But I can't pass up that cool piece of history in the Billups Crossing Gate. I like that Lionel may be starting to look back into making some operating accessories.
Perfect timing for the Midway games too, as I am building an Amusement Park on my layout, so I will grab those.
Great selections though, for a volume II catalog.
The only thing I might grab are the two WCOR graffiti box cars.
I will be purchasing Ann Arbor railroad hobo car. 
Those milk tankers look cool but that's about it.
Really happy to see Lionel is adding some small steam by bringing back the 2-6-0 Mogul. Here's hoping more road names appear, especially for western railroads. Northern Pacific perhaps?
As others have noted, the Legacy L1 Mikado is great value for a mid-size locomotive with whistle steam. I bet Lionel sells a bunch of them. Might even order one myself.
Interestingly, by the time you add all the cars on the Chessie passenger train, it's not night and day cheaper than 3rd Rail's upcoming version -- not at all. For that kind of money, I know which one I'm getting. :-)
And yes, I am tempted by a hobo car. Some of the UP heritage stuff is cool but I don't run a whole lot of modern trains.
