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Stupid that I am, I have only just learned that there are 3-rail cars and 2-rail cars, and that the trucks and couplers are different.

So, when I look at a boxcar for sale, and the front of the box says "Weaver Ultra Line with trucks and couplers", how am I supposed to tell whether it is 3-rail or 2-rail car?

As a side item, I got a beautiful MTH lighted caboose at a flea market, without box, and found that the couplers were about an eigth of an inch lower than my Lionel lobster claws, so it would uncouple or derail when it went around corners hooked to a Lionel car. The only car it will stay on the track with is a really heavy old Lionel tank car with a metal coupler.  Don't know why.

Do swinging coupler arms as opposed to fixed coupler arms (being an integral part of the truck) have any relationship to any of this?

Thanks,

Mannyrock





   

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@Mannyrock posted:


Do swinging coupler arms as opposed to fixed coupler arms (being an integral part of the truck) have any relationship to any of this?

Thanks,

Mannyrock

Yes, they do. The trucks with articulated coupler arms/shafts will be more tolerant of curves and irregularities. These cars will track better, especially with relation to the cars coupled to them. Not that the fixed arms are bad, but they are less forgiving in close-to-tolerances situations. Most of time there will be no difference in performance.

As always, the larger the curves, the fewer the problems, and the better your trains will look.

(The Perfect Railroad has no curves, no grades and no switches, you know....)

2 rail wheels are electrically insulated from side to side, 3 rail are not. 2 rail coup[ers are mounted to the body of the car, 3 rail are mounted to the trucks. 2 rail couplers are mounted (or should be)  at a specific height determined by a coupler height gauge. The well known coupler touted by the three rail scalers is not prototypical.

ECI

@PRRMP54 posted:

Two-rail couplers are smaller than the three-rail equivalents:

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The orange tankcar is a three-rail car and has the larger coupler. And, yes, the two can mate under some circumstances.

in a pinch, were you want to run both together, you can  make a conversion car , with a scale coupler on one end and lobster claw on the other.  Before the term 3 rail scale was used , it was called Hi rail, and older scale cars could be had with oversized flanges, to run with the lionel stuff

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