3rd Rail Alco PA a knockout in in D&H colors!

Congratulations on your new engines Sam!  They are gorgeous.

Will these be pulling freight or passenger trains?

Nothing quite like a new engine!

Enjoy,

Don

Sam,  I'm glad you go first class.  First the R-O-Ws in D&H and now a step up to the 3rd Rail offering.  First class all the way.  John in Lansing, ILL

Thanks guys - I'll be pulling freight mostly Don. I do have some unmarked K-Line 21" silver streamliners that I will probably pull around occasionally but is it Ok to admit that I don't particularly care for the prototype D&H cars for some reason?  These and the beautiful Legacy L&N E8s are the only 'new' engines I've purchased in several years now.

I got a kick out of your comment John, thanks - the R.O.W.s (photo below) were certainly nice pieces. I believe I read somewhere that they only made 50 sets. I had never seen another in all these years. They were so well-detailed at the time and quite 'correct' in so many aspects, yet it's interesting that they produced a B unit that the D&H never owned!

These new models are very reminiscent of the earlier ones to me.

Your new engine is very nice, but IMHO pales in comparison to your absolutely gorgeous Hellgate Bridge scenery. Sam, this is intended to be a high compliment to your artistic scenery skills.

Arnold

Arnold D. Cribari posted:

Your new engine is very nice, but IMHO pales in comparison to your absolutely gorgeous Hellgate Bridge scenery. Sam, this is intended to be a high compliment to your artistic scenery skills.

Arnold

I can't get that photo of the Hellgate Bridge scenery out of my head. It is breathtaking.

Fantastic 

Very nice, Sam...and congrats on your 1st 3rd Rail purchase!  I’m a sucker for the D&H (as evidenced by a lot of my posts here on the Forum), so that engine looks great to me!  I hope you’ll find time to post more photos when you unbox the second unit, and maybe even a video of them in action.

I’ve been so impressed with 3rd Rail’s offerings, and very patiently waiting to become a member of the “3rd Rail family”.  It’s only a matter of time that Scott offers a locomotive, road name and paint scheme that matches my wants/needs.  Keeping my fingers crossed!

Enjoy these beauties!

Very nice pieces Sam, enjoy them and we hope to see more video of them running!

I wonder how this unit compares to the Rowi units and the Lionel Units?

Have a look for yourself PRRHORSHOECURVE Curve -

Here's a shot of my old R.O.W. which was an amazing piece back in the 1990s. Operationally, it was a beast with twin Pittmans sans flywheels that required a deft hand on the 'brake'. I was told had I added the ERR Cruise that it would have been a vast improvement. The Alco sounds were pretty good and it had quite a few lights on the body like today's models. No interior. No smoke (an ALco must smoke) The bodies were brass (by Ajin) and the stainless finish was what really attracted me to them. MTH<,Lionel, & Wms were just silver painted...

c.sam posted:

Have a look for yourself PRRHORSHOECURVE Curve -

Here's a shot of my old R.O.W. which was an amazing piece back in the 1990s. Operationally, it was a beast with twin Pittmans sans flywheels that required a deft hand on the 'brake'. I was told had I added the ERR Cruise that it would have been a vast improvement. The Alco sounds were pretty good and it had quite a few lights on the body like today's models. No interior. No smoke (an ALco must smoke) The bodies were brass (by Ajin) and the stainless finish was what really attracted me to them. MTH<,Lionel, & Wms were just silver painted...

The ROW locos are very impressive (tethers everywhere!; no dead spots), and can be had, sometimes, at plastic prices. I have the NYC and the UP - but the UP PA's have a date with my paint and decals - got to be GM&O (they had 3 PA's, no PB's, so I can skip painting the UP PB). One GM&O had no stripes for a while, so one will be in that simple scheme.

I'll frame-mount the pilots and remove the big UP number boards - and install ERR Cruise Commander - but, my gosh, where am I going to put the insulated TMCC antenna on these totally brass locomotives? The bodies cannot be insulated from the frames, I think, and it's not like I can put it under a plastic tender or coal load...I may have to have a "permanent" plastic baggage car and an antenna tether...

When I get to it. 

c.sam posted:

Seeing the other posts I had to open mine that arrived today. Was hoping to take them to the layout for some good images but got tied up with a house. Here is #18 just opened 10 minutes ago. I'll get around to changing out the pilot and a few other details but wanted to show everyone what an amazing piece of work these are - Congratulations Scott! 

This is my 1st 3rd Rail purchase and am duly impressed. The interior is quite nice - the only one of my diesels that has one.  Tomorrow I'll unpack her sister and post some more photos. 

My love of the D&H paint scheme aside, that is one sweet engine Sam.

Nice engine   My Erie Lack PA's should be here any day now   BTW Sam do you know your supposed to take that foam out from overthe trucks  LOL

WOW! WOW!! WOW!!!  Absolutely stunning locomotive Sam!  Congratulations on your new acquisition!! 

The D&H PA's are my favorite of all time!!  I find their livery to be gorgeous IMHO! 

Thanks for sharing the photos and your joy!!  

Very nice. After reading about how they ended up D&H from Santa Fe, I'm a fan.

Yes, great loking D&H Bluebonnet!

I am surprised that MPC Lionel did not make an O27 D&H train in the 1970's with the small ALCO cab units and 2400 type passenger cars.  And for a while Amtrak did provide a dome for the train on D&H territory.  However the red in the window strips and arrow were replaced with yellow.

Anyway that and a like VIA train their blue ans yellow would look great!

Sam,Those are very sharp.  Have fun running them.  Another great job by Scott and his team.

Norm

Dominic Mazoch posted:

Yes, great loking D&H Bluebonnet!

I am surprised that MPC Lionel did not make an O27 D&H train in the 1970's with the small ALCO cab units and 2400 type passenger cars.  And for a while Amtrak did provide a dome for the train on D&H territory.  However the red in the window strips and arrow were replaced with yellow.

Anyway that and a like VIA train their blue ans yellow would look great!

But they did

Very Nice!

I close coupled these older Lionel releases and have been running these... DARN shame they never made some 18 inch or 21 inch cars for these.

J Daddy posted:

Very Nice!

I close coupled these older Lionel releases and have been running these... DARN shame they never made some 18 inch or 21 inch cars for these.

 

Didn't Weaver or MTH make an 18" aluminum set in D&H?

https://www.ebay.com/sch/Passe...m=R40&_nkw=D%26H

Or is your comment specifically directed to Lionel?

Yes, Weaver made a 20" aluminum set if I'm not mistaken (may have been 18" however)  There was a set on eBay awhile back but they wanted a lot for them and they are pretty old pieces. Someone will have some in the future you would think?

bluelinec4 posted:

Dominic Mazoch posted:

Yes, great loking D&H Bluebonnet!

I am surprised that MPC Lionel did not make an O27 D&H train in the 1970's with the small ALCO cab units and 2400 type passenger cars.  And for a while Amtrak did provide a dome for the train on D&H territory.  However the red in the window strips and arrow were replaced with yellow.

Anyway that and a like VIA train their blue ans yellow would look great!

But they did

ALCO, yes.  6400 type passenger, NO.  That como woyld have made a great set!

c.sam posted:

Yes, Weaver made a 20" aluminum set if I'm not mistaken (may have been 18" however)  There was a set on eBay awhile back but they wanted a lot for them and they are pretty old pieces. Someone will have some in the future you would think?

That's right Weaver did make a set that is nice looking  but very elusive... also they still have the silhouette people on the windows, and I am not sure about the grey/ white roofs and bright aluminum sides compared to the actual cars.

MTH cars are a bit better but still miss the mark:

Sharp looking engine Sam. Enjoy!

The D&H paint scheme is one of my favorites.

As being a fan as well. I noticed that allot of Passenger cars were mix and match on the D&H.

I will never forget looking to find the Lionel PA B unit, it took a long time searching at various swap meets... only to learn there was never  a B unit on these...

J Daddy - I was surprised when I found a lone Lionel B unit and 'won' it on eBay some years ago for just $70 (no other bidders). I used to run it with my Lionel Santa Fe's and had intended to add some red striping tape to cover the blue stripe and apply a couple of indian head  decals...

J Daddy posted:

I will never forget looking to find the Lionel PA B unit, it took a long time searching at various swap meets... only to learn there was never  a B unit on these...

JDaddy;

If you are talking about the Alco PA's (#18 & #19) from 2003 in your post above, there was a B unit: 6-14586. This pic is from Lionel's website (if I had some free time, I'd try and find mine somewhere down in the basement!!!).

Thanks Paul, 

I did find one and purchased it... and ran it proud via pictures here on the forum... only to find that the D&H never had them.

They are nice and I hope GGD makes some cars for us here in the future. 

Here are couple more with Alco #16 added

...and yes Ben, I will certainly remove the foam sheets before running them!  :-)

Heck, they're only new once!

c.sam posted:

Here are couple more with Alco #16 added

...and yes Ben, I will certainly remove the foam sheets before running them!  :-)

Heck, they're only new once!

Aren't those foam sheets responsible for them"new train" smell???

Fabulous and incredibly realistic photos, Sam.

C. Sam,

How is the search for passenger cars going? I started this thread below and it looks like we will have to break out the kit building tools!

https://ogrforum.com/...99#79283631179414599

The good news is finding Union Station as a source for passenger car kits.