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Scored one of these for $500 brand new in the box---very nice engine-runs smooth-its my first 3rd rail engine--only pain is the plug in between the tender and engine hard to get in---I assume Lionel has a patent on the wireless tether which is really a nice feature and thats why no one else has it

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20centuryhudson posted:

Scored one of these for $500 brand new in the box---very nice engine-runs smooth-its my first 3rd rail engine--only pain is the plug in between the tender and engine hard to get in---I assume Lionel has a patent on the wireless tether which is really a nice feature and thats why no one else has it

Maybe it's just me, but I strongly dislike that Lionel "wireless/infrared" engine to tender hook-up. I have never understood why Lionel produces well detailed, large, SCALE models of big steam locomotives designed for 072 or larger curves, and then uses a drawbar length for much sharper curves.  Yes, I have disassembled those infrared drawbars, shortened them up quite a bit, but why should the consumer have to do that, on a model that was designed for 072 and larger curves, yet the drawbar spacing is for something like 054?

The drawbar arrangement on the Sunset/3rd Rail steam models suits me just fine, as I can easily shorten them in about 15 minutes, if so required.

Mr Water, above, took the words out of my mouth on Lionel's tether - I dislike them, too; have modified them, too; would have much preferred to just drill another hole in the drawbar...(have done that, too). The big box (smaller, now) is weird-looking.

MTH "wireless" (not really) drawbars I don't care for, either - regardless of their available lengths.

Turning a straightforward piece of metal with holes in it into a barely-modifiable piece of "tech" (L's or M's) is just annoying. If I were taking my steamers apart that often, I'd consider a switch to diesels. 

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