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For those of you who noticed I am new and beyone old school Lionel I have next to no knowledge of modern model trains.  My ebay purchases did not work as well as I had hoped and I am left with. . .

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/A-58-4..._cvip=true&rt=nc

 

Rather than reworking it and droping it on a new frame repairs are in order . . .

 

 

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Upon diving into this there is very little that is not broken or bad.  Fortunatly there was a very poor glue used and most simply breaks apart.  I have been able to get the motor by itself to run so that is a big positive.  I have replaced the axles and wheels forward and plan on using them to pick up from the rails eliminating the problem of plastic centers.  I will also be running a pickup on the tender for the outer and center rail.  Under the locomotive I intend to rivit a center rail pickup.  This way I will be able to trigger switches etc and also maintain a longer pickup for running over the same.  I purchased parts from a newer locomotive and may be able to incorporate the smoke into it. 

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Dan Padova posted:

What's with the side rods on the tender truck ?

The prototype for the model IHB 0-8-0s had a booster steam engine on the tender lead truck. These beasts were also three-cylinder locomotives. The boosters come in handy for starting long drags in yard switching. If a steam locomotive can get a train moving, then it can run with it. 

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It is AHM/Rivvarasi Illinoise Central #382 Casey Jones Cannonball. It may be a kit or prebuilt. But I expect it to be a kit. It has a 12vdc motor as a kit, and needs a wide curve 42" or more(?)( if the pilot truck isn't modified.) To run ac voltage you need to confirm it has a bridge rectifier. Is it already 3rail? Mine now can take on any track. And I recenty posted what I have finished so far on my own build up of one of them.

If your motor is cooked from testing on AC, the motor kits show up on eBay.

A little weight added to the boiler and this one outpulls a Lionel General by a car or two.

I'm going to need to search for a link and repost with it soon.

To be honest I had found your thread and read thru it more than a couple times before my disaster arrived.  My motor is different than yours and I may be looking to replace it in the future.  As far as a rectifier, there was none that I could find as I tore into the model.  I did go buy one and tested the motor (by itself) touching wires to my track and it spins.  Before I purchased the rectifier I had checked the motor to see that it would spin on DC using a simple drill battery.  Ive drilled and lined the stack with copper tubing for a smoke unit and found trucks for the tender.  The lights will be soon enough and once I get that figured out I can do wiring and testing.

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Well what's the disaster? Just that it wasn't running? The look? Which you seem to be sprucing up nicely by the way. Is it set for 3 rail?

Mine is very quiet. Its not a good puller if it doesn't have some extra weight it the boiler, but performs well within its limits, slightly better than a General and quieter. I really enjoy its unique look.

A grain of wheat bulb will fit, or led set up since you're going to have DC available anyhow.

I'd think.an ho fan drven smoke unit might be what you want to look at to fit.

I made this out of a post war element & a silicone pill container for drift smoke, which it kinda weak, but there. It belongs to another plastic train but you never know, the 382 might get it. Fiber washer keeps the stack liner off the element. The silicone well seals well enough to hold a decent amount of fluid. More than a General, lol.

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Ok so yesterday was productive or so I think, 3 steps back 4 steps ahead kind of think.  Hang onto your hats . . .

 

I've decided to ditch the AC motor and go with a "new" system.  I have a busted (guts are good) locomotive here with what I would like.  It has a newer can motor, reverse, smoke, lights, etc.  It would run but was slow, I know the motor has power though. Wheel diameter is increased switching locomotives and weight is a drastic change which is not good.  I want as much weight as possible down low and the best way I know is to simply cast it in place.  The foreward truck has been weighted and axles installed (not pictured finished) as I want to insure good contact for tripping switches as well as being the pickup for the new motor.  To weighten I poured pewter into the plastic truck then cut out axle slots and soldered brass axle tubes in.  Once done it will all be sealed in epoxy.  I've decided to retain the rivarossi gearing so I drilled the rivarossi worm out once removing and soldered onto the new lionel motor.  The circuit board is inverted and epoxied into the tender shell, I will have to run wires from the tender to the locomotive unfortunatly.  With the die cast trucks on the tender there should be enough weight for the pickups.  As I fit the smoke unit lights etc I will be pouring more pewter into the locomotive to increase weight as I have on the frame bottom between the wheels.

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